Evening all, hard old day, come into the office for a shower before tea, make the big mistake of switching on the computer, and there we are, Dennis you have started it with this thread! Trying to answer some points, ( if the old grey cells work at all) .Kenny, Black Knight,(I would call a Mk1), 1964,“freighter and tanker series” to meet the new 1964construction and use regulations a range of 4, 6, and 8wheel rigid chassis, powered by Gardner 5LW, 94 BHP 6LW 112bhp, 6LX 150bhp,Engines Gearboxes, David Brown 557/500 5sp,657 6sp, TR557 10sp splitter, ZFAK 6-75 6sp, ZF power steering, Eaton 18802 2sp axle or tandem drive Kirkstall T48 Gold Knight was the tractor range, if the memory is right, but with (initially) a ■■■■■■■ 180 option), Now the controversial ERF/Atkinson debate! I bought and sold both brands, new and used. Personally, in their day I consider the Atkinson to have been the better product, untill the advent of the “Group axle”. I hated the ride in the LV and A Series, the cab always seemed to be out of phase with the chassis , like two dancers, one doing a fox trot, and the partner a Rhumba! Doors always seemed to be a problem area with ERF, but I wholeheartedly agree with the issue of windscreen security in Atkinsons! I well remember proudly wheeling into A G Birds premises, (heavy haulage at Featherstone on the A460) with an Atkinson Venturer ■■■■■■■■ 15sp Fuller 6x4, “special types 75ton” (or so the brass plate on the cab rear stated). As I crossed the pavement the passenger windscreen took flight, to land infront of the unit. If that was not embarrasing enough, on exit, having endured much leg pulling from Geoff and Ken Bird and their pro Foden staff, the drivers screen emulated the egress of its sister, and needless to say it was a very wet day!! I am pretty certain that that particular chassis ended up at Rawcliffes at Mawdsley. Finally, ramone, Spiers of Melksham, after their demise I seem to remember Chris Kelly ended up with most of the fleet, and resold them. I shall now take refuge from the pro ERF brigade, (but gosh I had fabulous service many years later from ERF E Series), and seek solace in a large glass of nicely chilled Bollinger, Adieu mes Amis, (as they say in downtown Bilston)
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