Come to Milton Keynes & you’ll all be experts on roundabouts in a day [emoji6]
ROG:
truckyboy:
Must agree with most on this post, but in the scenario ROG pointed out, i cant see how the person on the roundabout can take any blame, for the highway code surely states one must give way to vehicles already on the roundabout, so if mr clever cloggs on the motorbike approaches a roundabout, there is a sign he has ignored which states, give way, roundabout ahead, and therefore must give way to vehicles already on it, be it a car or a an artic.If that was the case then many LGV tests must be examined incorrectly !!!
Assuming the test is saying that the priorities shouldn’t be reversed in the case of traffic already established ‘on the roundabout’ from the left,‘before’ something has entered it from the right,yes.If I was failed in those circumstances I’d definitely appeal the test result.
So are you saying that if someone enters a roundabout,without slowing down to a speed from which they can stop if required and takes out a cyclist or a horse rider ahead,who’s ‘already established’ ‘on the roundabout’,before the vehicle from the right had entered it,and who had entered it from the left,that’s the cyclist’s or horse rider’s fault ?.
Much of the problem is that let’s say you got a main A road crossing a B road or an unclassified road at a roundabout. Let’s say the A road goes straight across, people on that A road think they’ve got MORE right of way than others do because they are on the main road. So they think they can come speeding down and not slow down much because they’ve got a higher priority. But they don’t. If I can see someone coming but I am there well before them then as far as I’m concerned I’m pulling out and going. Even though I know it will mean they’ve got to slow down for me, I’m then on the roundabout before them. They have no additional right Of way just because they are on the “main road part” of the roundabout.
They can then go ahead and beep the horn at me and I’ll blow a kiss at them. Always winds them up that one does.
Rowley010:
Much of the problem is that let’s say you got a main A road crossing a B road or an unclassified road at a roundabout. Let’s say the A road goes straight across, people on that A road think they’ve got MORE right of way than others do because they are on the main road. So they think they can come speeding down and not slow down much because they’ve got a higher priority. But they don’t. If I can see someone coming but I am there well before them then as far as I’m concerned I’m pulling out and going. Even though I know it will mean they’ve got to slow down for me, I’m then on the roundabout before them. They have no additional right Of way just because they are on the “main road part” of the roundabout.They can then go ahead and beep the horn at me and I’ll blow a kiss at them. Always winds them up that one does.
The key point is traffic ‘established’ ‘on the roundabout’ as opposed to approaching and entering it.If both vehicles are ‘approaching’ ‘entering’ the roundabout,then the rule give way to the right obviously applies even if the vehicle on the left is slightly ahead.While there is no priority road v give way side road T junction type situation in the case of a roundabout.
ROG:
truckyboy:
Must agree with most on this post, but in the scenario ROG pointed out, i cant see how the person on the roundabout can take any blame, for the highway code surely states one must give way to vehicles already on the roundabout, so if mr clever cloggs on the motorbike approaches a roundabout, there is a sign he has ignored which states, give way, roundabout ahead, and therefore must give way to vehicles already on it, be it a car or a an artic.If that was the case then many LGV tests must be examined incorrectly !!!
Apparently Yes if examiners are unable to understand simple rules as you are stating is the case and I am with the others on this one I’m afraid Rog.
A Yield sign means I must yield to traffic on the carriageway at the other side of the Yield sign which is the roundabout in this instance as they have right of way. It does not ask me to Yield to traffic on other adjacent carriageways (other approach roads) as they are not on the carriageway controlled by my Yield sign.
As Rowley and others pointed out some of the people driving straight through probably feel certain bully rights as they can complete the manouver at a much higher speed than the guy turning 90° or more but they are breaking the law.
It is an absolute fail for them to pass their Yield sign at a speed that looses safe stopping distance or requires extreme manoeuvres to avoid slower traffic already on or entering the roundabout before them.
Though I have right of way to enter the roundabout I now observe a total ■■■ approaching at high speed on an adjacent approach road. My right of way does not give me the absolute right to proceed if it will result in a recognisableably unsafe situation.
The other ■■■ will certainly fail his test but so will I if I place my right of way higher than safe driving and good judgement resulting in an unsafe condition just because the other ■■■ did not Yield sufficiently.
The situation and principle being tested here has nothing to do with the Yield to traffic on your right rule whatsoever but is about better judgement and safe driving I reckon.
In reality and not on test I’m thinking twice in my car but I’m with Rowley and the Captain in the truck and hopefully the ■■■ gets a few flat spots or other skid marks to think about next time. 