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How can you negotiate a deal, and leave on a ‘no deal’ basis?

Are you saying, as Bernard Jenkin did the other day, that a ‘no deal’ Brexit would allow us to just carry on as we have since 1992 with free access to Europe etc…in which case, what was the point of leaving?

Brexit means Brexit, and no deal means no deal, which means on Brexit day we exit the EU and revert to WTO rules, and all the consequences of that.

We only have until March to do a deal…and it’s going to get harder for the UK to get a good deal with every day that goes by.

Access to the single market means ‘free movement of goods and labour’…which goes both ways. And no, you won’t get one without the other.

BTW, it was the UK that changed ‘labour’ to ‘people’. In most EU nations you need to get a job or be able to support yourself before you can move from one to another. It was the UK which opened it up to welfare tourism. It was also the UK which drove the expansion of the EU eastward.

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How can you negotiate a deal, and leave on a ‘no deal’ basis?

Are you saying, as Bernard Jenkin did the other day, that a ‘no deal’ Brexit would allow us to just carry on as we have since 1992 with free access to Europe etc…in which case, what was the point of leaving?

No one on the leave side wants a so called ‘no deal’ Brexit.It’s the EU which is saying that ‘it’ isn’t prepared to make any deal in which we get back sovereignty for obvious reasons.Because the whole EUSSR project is based on the blackmail of Sovereignty for trade when from our point of view even that trading relationship is a deficit liability to us.

While surely you’re not trying to suggest that you’ve missed the bit that the whole point of us ‘leaving’ is to get back the sovereignty over the country’s government and with it democratic accountability which Heath signed away in 1973,among others like Major etc,in the form of the European Communities act and Maastricht and Lisbon treaties.

So there we have it a UK with the same status regarding the sovereignty over its government as New Zealand and Japan has and no more reason as to why Brit airlines can’t fly or why we should starve as a result or not trade with anyone, including the EU,as those two countries.Unless that is you can provide some exact and credible reasons as to why you think that Japan and New Zealand should be treated as a different case to us regarding their right to govern their own countries. :unamused: