michel:
Anorak,
The 1623 had a non ZF synchromesh gearbox and ZF hydrosteering,the 1624 had a ZF synchro gearbox and Mercedes servosteering.
The engine was a OM 355 ,11.580 liter on both typs but the power was 230hp on the 1623 and 240 hp on the 1624.
Merci beaucoup Michel. I thought the '24 came out in 1965, so I stand corrected. I am surprised that Mercedes lagged so far behind in the power race of the 1960s- other makes were building 240bhp (DIN) machines by 1964/65. I was also surprised that they did not have a direct injection engine until 1964, by which time such technology had been in regular use for over 30 years.
hallo Anorak, all Germans were late with direct injection,except MAN who had his own injection system and Henschel with it’s Lanova Indirect injection system and from about '59 it’s own Direct injection.
But Mercedes delivered direct injection from '61 on for export like for belgium or France you could have the choise IDI or DI on the 334,
and the first 1620/1920/2020 were still available with IDI the old OM346 engine in Germany. I don’t know if it was the course with the downrated 1418 (180HP) which we only had for light weight transport but was common in the UK. The same with the NG we had the 1926 and in the UK you saw the V8 as a 1624, of course the 1626 to.Which were less less powerfull as the 6 in line 1924 even the 1626.
The first models from about '63-'65 till '67 had a dubble chrome list on the front grill , versions 1620,1920,2020,2220.
On the first view the 24 was distingishable on the waterpump mounted at the front of the engine.
Hello Tiptop,
How fast was start an IDI OM346 in a cold morning?
The first MAN with direct injection had a good reputation (better cold star,fuel consumption…?
How fast was start an IDI OM346 in a cold morning?
The first MAN with direct injection had a good reputation (better cold star,fuel consumption…?
Edzio.
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Hey Edzio, The cold start was good if you had enough compression,but the older the more bad it came,and it took always a lot of time to glow up with German marques.Only henschel had it own system (Lanova called) and glowing took also time but the glowers were in the inlet manifold.
MAN had it’s own injetion system too( M system) already for about the early mid '50’s and they kept it till the beginnings of the '80’s (it was one hole injector system).I think the last one with it was the 321■■?
The british were one of the first with DI and they had it right,and the Germans came hesitating after even stayed longer with IDI for Germany with the old engines.
How fast was start an IDI OM346 in a cold morning?
The first MAN with direct injection had a good reputation (better cold star,fuel consumption…?
Edzio.
Hey Edzio, The cold start was good if you had enough compression,but the older the more bad it came,and it took always a lot of time to glow up with German marques.Only henschel had it own system (Lanova called) and glowing took also time but the glowers were in the inlet manifold.
MAN had it’s own injetion system too( M system) already for about the early mid '50’s and they kept it till the beginnings of the '80’s (it was one hole injector system).I think the last one with it was the 321■■?
The british were one of the first with DI and they had it right,and the Germans came hesitating after even stayed longer with IDI for Germany with the old engines.
Cheers Eric,
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OK Dr Eric,
Thank you for share your knowledge about truck industry.
Saw Mechanics using presses on Mercedes LP Diffs and King pins on the front axel , very expensive parts , we never ever had to change Volvo king pins or unversal Joints and had only two rear axel bearing failure ( on Volvos up to 14 years old ) , but to claim the Gardner 180 or Merc 180 `s had any power ? the Merc 1624 / 1924 was the same engine …just tweaked up to 235 hast kraft , but still not as powerfull on the road as a Volvo F86 , i have a Swedish friend that drove the Stockholm - Germany wid a MB 1924 it was the worst truck he ever had he said , what about the nice kabin and ride i say , he says keep it give me an engine
Hey, MB wasn’t a bad lorry, the LP had a good cab suspension and roomy. Bad point no power weak oil brakes at the front,bad heating and a weak two speed on the 1418.
here the 1418 was only plate for 30T,for 32 t we had the 16■■ and 19■■ for 38/40t.
The ■■20 202hp engine was not good because it was originally an OM326 IDI, changes made it better and got 205hp.
Replaced by the ■■21 210hp OM355 engine.
The first with a bit power was the ■■24 surrely faster as the ■■26 or ■■24 V8.
There after the first with power again was the ■■33, but the best ever was the ■■35 much faster as the ■■38 Euro I OM402 V8
Even the ■■38 Euro II OM 442 was not faster as the ■■35.
Only my opinion and Always been told. There after even the big V8 440,480,500 and 530 weren’t up to their competitiors.
This LP was new to a mate of mine when he drove for the company shown, however I had this vehicle later in 1983 working for a small company, this was the only Artic they had. I prepared this for MoT and re-shoed the front axle brakes and quite expected to have problems on the brake test but it flew through, it was in good condition otherwise but those brakes were poor and just as well it didn’t go too hard anyway. Plenty room in the cab but little else in it, the bed if I recall was as thick as a doormat. It was ok for me doing local work apart from one journey to Doncaster when it struggled with a full load and I wouldn’t have liked to do anymore distance work with it. The lights were also poor if I recall and with this being around 7 or 8 years old when I had it then I would think it wouldn’t be much better when newer and likely would be on a par with the 1992 reg Volvo FL6 I had from new and that was pathetic so its probably why this Merc model is easily forgotten, it had nothing of great merit to boast of. Franky.
Frankydobo:
This LP was new to a mate of mine when he drove for the company shown, however I had this vehicle later in 1983 working for a small company, this was the only Artic they had. I prepared this for MoT and re-shoed the front axle brakes and quite expected to have problems on the brake test but it flew through, it was in good condition otherwise but those brakes were poor and just as well it didn’t go too hard anyway. Plenty room in the cab but little else in it, the bed if I recall was as thick as a doormat. It was ok for me doing local work apart from one journey to Doncaster when it struggled with a full load and I wouldn’t have liked to do anymore distance work with it. The lights were also poor if I recall and with this being around 7 or 8 years old when I had it then I would think it wouldn’t be much better when newer and likely would be on a par with the 1992 reg Volvo FL6 I had from new and that was pathetic so its probably why this Merc model is easily forgotten, it had nothing of great merit to boast of. Franky.
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Franky, I remember your mate TC ( the late Tommy Connelly) driving that Merc before he went to work for Van Hee. Regards Kev.
Aye funny enough Kev I was near the Van Hee yard one day so thought I’d nip round and see if anyone was about, Tommy was there and came straight over and told me the Merc had been his at Albany, he was chuffed to see it again but I didn’t mention I wasn’t too impressed with it. It still had the Albany green paint on the inside as the cab had been repainted red. When I was back at Van Hee, Tommy always looked after his motors and when he went on holiday he asked the gaffer to put me on his motor as he knew I’d keep the new Scania clean, it was nice to park up an older motor and use one of the newer 112’s for a few weeks, not sure I got the better loads though! Cheers Franky.
