toonsy:
All over the news this morning there’s poor wee lambs who have been stuck in their cars all night with no food and no water calling up radio stations sounding like some charity advert.
Now I understand SOME people may get stuck and SOME must travel such as lorry drivers who are already out but…
Am I alone in not having much sympathy for those stuck, unprepared, willing to put themselves at risk? There was a very rare RED weather warning in place after all…
I was the lucky one then was down that way at 1pm yesterday and was still manageable for me didn’t help stupid fedex truck doing 30mph got ■■■■■■ of ended up going in the white stuff to get passed him loads of traction for me full load of spuds on board at that time
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Jagxf1:
Chris1207:
toonsy:
SOME must travel such as lorry drivers who are already out but…
I despair. Why MUST lorry drivers be out in it? They should all have been sent home for the day or parked up early. Delivering TVs, Sofas, Crisps and fizzy juice is NOT essential! Yes very true but it’s also the busiest for the supermarkets as people panic buy like the end of the world is coming in a few days time
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Toonsy didn’t say lorry drivers must go out ,he said who are already out meaning to carry on to safe parking or back to base imo
Punchy Dan:
Jagxf1:
Chris1207:
toonsy:
SOME must travel such as lorry drivers who are already out but…
I despair. Why MUST lorry drivers be out in it? They should all have been sent home for the day or parked up early. Delivering TVs, Sofas, Crisps and fizzy juice is NOT essential! Yes very true but it’s also the busiest for the supermarkets as people panic buy like the end of the world is coming in a few days time
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Toonsy didn’t say lorry drivers must go out ,he said who are already out meaning to carry on to safe parking or back to base imo
I’ll repeat what i just posted on the other thread.
Chris1207:
Wheel Nut:
And where does the diminutive split arse expect the drivers to park while she clears the snow with her gob
How about in their yards where the operators should have kept them, instead of sending them out into it and hoping for the best?? Of course, saying ‘no’, would require thinking for oneself. 
They were warning for DAYS in advance that this was coming and as much as 48 hours in advance that it was going to be the highest magnitude of ‘amber’ warning, verging on red… they advised repeatedly to only travel if it was absolutely essential… yet operators were sending wagons out like it was a summers day.
This country is not prepared for that level of snow. The same thing happens every. single. time, there’s more than a wee flurry, yet nobody ever learns - they just ■■■■■ about it when they get stuck / all hell breaks loose, and blame the government, the transport agencies, the EU… everyone, basically, but themselves.
I look forward to reading of the repeat of this tomorrow in the south-west. I’ll get the popcorn on just now.
I can imagine the first minister would be blustering that the farmers had no feed for their cattle, no oil for their heating and no bread on the shelves. It’s not possible to park all the lorries in their depots, we run a 24 hour distribution service in this country, that includes Scotland, Traffic Scotland took their eye off the ball. I concur with you that non important traffic could have stayed at home, but road transport is important, along with ambulance firefighters doctors nurses and policemen. The red warning came into force at 3pm so there should have been. a couple of suitable snowploughs / excavators available.
On the night runs I’ve been doing (granted not in scotland), even though I’ve seen plenty of gritters with snow plough down, the snow is coming down too fast and accumulating on the road. Unless every other vehicle is clearing the snow, there’s not a lot that can be done. We don’t have the infrastructure to deal with this (because we don’t get enough to warrant the expenditure) and the public aren’t equipped to drive in it, either skills wise or equipment.
It’s been common knowledge for days that this weather was coming, most people had a choice not to go out in it.
toonsy:
All over the news this morning there’s poor wee lambs who have been stuck in their cars all night with no food and no water calling up radio stations sounding like some charity advert.
Now I understand SOME people may get stuck and SOME must travel such as lorry drivers who are already out but…
Am I alone in not having much sympathy for those stuck, unprepared, willing to put themselves at risk? There was a very rare RED weather warning in place after all…
So rare was this RED warning that it was the first time it had been used!
The Red warning was issued at 3pm on 28/02/2018 most lorry drivers would have been on the road by 6am so there journeys were important.
Wheel Nut:
toonsy:
All over the news this morning there’s poor wee lambs who have been stuck in their cars all night with no food and no water calling up radio stations sounding like some charity advert.
Now I understand SOME people may get stuck and SOME must travel such as lorry drivers who are already out but…
Am I alone in not having much sympathy for those stuck, unprepared, willing to put themselves at risk? There was a very rare RED weather warning in place after all…
So rare was this RED warning that it was the first time it had been used!
The Red warning was issued at 3pm on 28/02/2018 most lorry drivers would have been on the roa6d by 6am so there journeys were important.
Second actually.
But we’re making the same point.
mattecube:
fatboystu1:
Unfortunately you can’t educate idiots…and thats being polite.
Arrogance of the highest order
Please enlighten me to my arrogance, or are you implying that those that travelled are arrogant?
It was all over the news yesterday evening about the impending bad weather, that scotland was going to get a red weather alert. Yet some people still decide to travel. If you provide an essential service or are already on the road then yes, travel. If you don’t do either of them then, quite frankly you’re a ■■■!
It’s frozen water falling from the sky ffs, not bloody ISIS paratroopers! We’re in the midst of a generation of people scared of their own shadows, terrified into inaction because they’ve not been issued instructions, offended by those instructions when they finally receive them. No wonder we’re a bloody world wide laughing stock on every level.
As an aside do lorry drivers no longer drive with one side of their wheels in the snow in order to help clearing it, or is it just me who does that when appropriate?
Conor:
Wheel Nut:
Over this weekend, they spread grit and closed a road, grit/salt doesn’t work if it’s not agitated by vehicles
Grit/salt also doesn’t work once the temperature gets below -7C which it was. Around here it isn’t the falling snow causing the problems but the snow being blown off the fields over the roads. Drove through stuff a foot deep over the wolds last night on the way home. Every time I came to a gap in the hedge on one stretch where you’re at right angles to the wind the car got blown sideways and you couldn’t see where the road was.
Got a text from the agency to say that most trunks have been cancelled tonight as we’re not sending anything up to Scotland again because there’s no point and its amber warning for the M62 corridor tonight so not worth it just to move some kitchens.
Regarding that motorway in Scotland, if lorries have been sliding into each other going up hill then I can only assume they’ve not been using the diff locks that are fitted to every lorry I’ve ever driven. Stick that on and you’re not sliding sideways when you hit the gas like you do if you don’t have it on.
What happens if your lorry doesn’t have diff lock soppy b******s? We have 15 rigids and only 1 26t has diff lock…
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Saw one driver on the news with snow chains in his side locker… Don’t think they would have even helped…
the maoster:
As an aside do lorry drivers no longer drive with one side of their wheels in the snow in order to help clearing it, or is it just me who does that when appropriate?
No I do too. Was doing it along the A14 earlier
the maoster:
As an aside do lorry drivers no longer drive with one side of their wheels in the snow in order to help clearing it, or is it just me who does that when appropriate?
Glad I’m not the only one .
Big difference between driving in the snow and following two black lines cut by somebody else in the snow - it would appear some of our most precious snowflakes can’t even follow nevermind lead.
the maoster:
It’s frozen water falling from the sky ffs, not bloody ISIS paratroopers! We’re in the midst of a generation of people scared of their own shadows, terrified into inaction because they’ve not been issued instructions, offended by those instructions when they finally receive them. No wonder we’re a bloody world wide laughing stock on every level.
As an aside do lorry drivers no longer drive with one side of their wheels in the snow in order to help clearing it, or is it just me who does that when appropriate?
I do that as well or drive in the other lane to clear it did a couple weeks back when we had snow drove up the A19 from Middlesbrough - Sunderland in outside lane once I passed others started to follow dropped my speed a little to about 45 ish
I know a driver who did get caught up in the M80 traffic he did go see the car drivers around him asked if they wanted a brew
Been stuck behind bloody car drivers all day doing 15-20mph in the better bits of the road then speeding up in the crappy bits.
I know some aren’t as used to snow but it has fallen before no really it has does make you wonder though.
Daytrunker:
Been stuck behind bloody car drivers all day doing 15-20mph in the better bits of the road then speeding up in the crappy bits.
I know some aren’t as used to snow but it has fallen before no really it has does make you wonder though.
Most car drivers do it the wrong way round, slow down for falling snow regardless the state of the road before speeding up when the falling snow stops, again, regardless of the state of the road.
the maoster:
It’s frozen water falling from the sky ffs, not bloody ISIS paratroopers! We’re in the midst of a generation of people scared of their own shadows, terrified into inaction because they’ve not been issued instructions, offended by those instructions when they finally receive them. No wonder we’re a bloody world wide laughing stock on every level.
As an aside do lorry drivers no longer drive with one side of their wheels in the snow in order to help clearing it, or is it just me who does that when appropriate?
Very true for the first.
And yes I do for the second, but the snowflake new drivers are to frightened,to do that as it might unsteady there single hand holding the steering wheel, while they Twitter and facecloth with the other hand