It looks like a tyre blow out from photo u can see a mark on the road. The load was peaches and all the plastic and cardboard packaging plus all the fridge installation would burn well so firemen had to pull the load out over the road to put out which made a big clean up. Is what they said was reason for long closure.
Photos from Kent roads police twitter
If it were a tyre blow out there wouldn’t be any marks on the road as it would have happened some considerable distance before the truck came to a halt.
Big Jase:
or blame the royal Mail driver who hit the barrier as he was asleep or on the phone,
Is that a fact 
m1cks:
If it were a tyre blow out there wouldn’t be any marks on the road as it would have happened some considerable distance before the truck came to a halt.
If you zoom in on the pic, you can see the black tyre mark follows in to the truck.
dri-diddly-iver:
Big Jase:
or blame the royal Mail driver who hit the barrier as he was asleep or on the phone,Is that a fact
Mmm, what else causes a professional LGV driver to veer off to the left so far (about 12 feet) and hitting an end stop of the barrier causing him to jack knife? A gust of wind? Don’t try and justify his/her actions by trying to discredit me. Even to the untrained eye looking at the photos you can tell what has happened despite the fact I am indeed a womble and have access in the RCC to details over a job.
Also remember, many of the jobs I attend, I speak to people, witnesses, the drivers themselves, and they tell me things. I obviously won’t divulge information on here, one its not right and 2. none of you will believe me anyway.
What I want to know is being a foreign truck will the owners be getting a bill from the UK fire service, police department etc?
Years ago one of my guys was involved in an accident in the snow, and in spite of the driver being run over by his own truck (yes, really) the biggest problem was the bill to repair the central res barrier, which to be fair was only bent a little.
I think our accident response services do a great job keeping things moving, yes we can pick holes here and there but it’s not a job I’d like to take on. But the reality is it costs the taxpayer; foreign trucks are now having to pay something towards the road fund I believe, what about the emergency services?
bazza123:
To be fair, it probably IS daft over the top risk assessments. I mean there were never all these closures in previous decades to the same degree, unless there was a major accident.What has changed?
No disrespect, but sometimes a bit of common sense is missing in these cases. So the surface is damaged in lane one? Get the resurfacing boys out ready to roll at night, throw some cones out (shut lane one) and have everything use lane two and three. What’s so difficult about that?
Bazza, what has changed is the blame culture that we have inherited from America, so anyone who has to make decision will not do so if there is even a slight risk of a claim coming their way, especially any top brass. I’m not saying it’s acceptable, but I do think it’s the reason us and the emergency services are so risk obsessed and over cautious.
Big Jase:
dri-diddly-iver:
Big Jase:
or blame the royal Mail driver who hit the barrier as he was asleep or on the phone,Is that a fact
Mmm, what else causes a professional LGV driver to veer off to the left so far (about 12 feet) and hitting an end stop of the barrier causing him to jack knife? A gust of wind? Don’t try and justify his/her actions by trying to discredit me. Even to the untrained eye looking at the photos you can tell what has happened despite the fact I am indeed a womble and have access in the RCC to details over a job.
Also remember, many of the jobs I attend, I speak to people, witnesses, the drivers themselves, and they tell me things. I obviously won’t divulge information on here, one its not right and 2. none of you will believe me anyway
Do you really think truck drivers don’t know that they are responsible for a good deal of accidents, just have a read thru more postings on here (not just sift thru the ones that have womble or hato in them) and you will see we are prob more critical of each other may it be uk or European drivers .Do you really think many of us have the attitude of just scrape him up he is dead anyway . As for firemen on £30k using a rake (which they where)I would have hoped those brave men where on more money than that. as for bringing up trucks running up the backs of trucks or hitting barriers keep to the subject of the thread as we are talking about a truck fire which if it was a tyre blow out the driver cant be blamed for that one. As for comparing hato and the police your totally out of line the police have a hard and sometimes grim job to do at an accident where hato are sat a few hundered yards away waiting to pick up the cones. As said in my earlier post once the fire was out and only once the fire was out they should have considered opening the road
chester1:
Do you really think truck drivers don’t know that they are responsible for a good deal of accidents, just have a read thru more postings on here (not just sift thru the ones that have womble or hato in them) and you will see we are prob more critical of each other may it be uk or European drivers
Well hell, there seems to be an awful lot of trucks crashing on a daily basis with HATOS being blamed for keeping the road shut unnecessarily. I do read through other posts but it seems many don’t seem to be capable of learning from others mistakes. Eveytime I look on here another driver has been caught speeding, you would have thought by now they would have learned
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chester1:
o you really think many of us have the attitude of just scrape him up he is dead anyway .
Yep, certainly the hundreds that shout at me when I am trying to turn you all around and send you back the wrong way
chester1:
as for bringing up trucks running up the backs of trucks or hitting barriers keep to the subject of the thread as we are talking about a truck fire which if it was a tyre blow out the driver cant be blamed for that one.
Yeah but you see, its all relative, how boring would a thread be if you ONLY talked about the one thing.
chester1:
As for comparing hato and the police your totally out of line the police have a hard and sometimes grim job to do at an accident where hato are sat a few hundered yards away waiting to pick up the cones. As said in my earlier post once the fire was out and only once the fire was out they should have considered opening the road
And you sir are totally out of line assuming we don’t have a grim job. Let me remind you, we are getting to more and more jobs long before the Police are nowadays as we are the only ones on the roads. My colleagues have seen people ripped to shreds and have been the last person they talk to before they pass. I myself have seen bodies led in the road thrown from cars and vans, I have seen my fair share of burnt up bodies, I have seen people dead in their cars, I have seen the trauma in people when they have realised what they have done to themselves or their loved ones, I have seen people with totally and utter pig headed disrespect for me and all other HATOs including the law itself driving past on their phone or without a seat belt when WE know full well what the implications are of their actions and for what? Usually absolutely no reason. What a complete waste of life.
Then I hear pig pigheadedness on here that a driver knows better than there being nothing in his path when we set Red X’s so continues anyway and comes across me stood in the road or that they feel 56 in a 40 is better or that 56 through a 50 roadworks is better.
I don’t ever expect any more than the tiniest of respect from many people but when you need us, we are there to help because, we are human, we travel, we get stuck in queues, we get frustrated but we value life and do what we can to protect yours and your families whenever out on our roads. It’s about time people started realising that.
Do you actually read what people write ? no one had even mentioned in this thread that truck’s don’t have accidents of course we do some are our fault some are not but no more than any other section of road users its just that the consequences are usually bigger. And yes of course hato do have a valid job on our roads and yes you may get to an accident before the police but more often than that their is a truck driver already ( more often than not not involved) there trying to help before the emergency services arrive and you will be surprised how many of us (not me) have some actual medical training . As for keeping on track with the thread it would get boring talking about just one subject but that’s why there are many different threads to give the conversation a bit of variety. But as it is a truck forum its more than likely going to be truck related jibber jabber . I could not imagin HATO.NET having that much variety either. As for the morons shouting abuse at you are you seriously saying its only trucks drivers doing this
Yes you’re correct, some truckers stop but not always. Your point was that the police have a tough job seeing grim things, my point was, so do we and as often as Trafpol. I have first aid training with refreshers, as our bosses realise we are first at scene.
So if the threads didn’t elaborate a bit, just how long do you think this “M20 chaos yet again” thread would last and how interesting would it be? Let me suggest, "got stuck on the M20’ “me too”, “ooh and me”. People add their opinions and sometimes a thread evolves.
It’s mostly truck drivers that give abuse as you see us more often, know we have no powers and therefore are more abusive. However car drivers do give grief but in a different way.