There is a train from York to Hull. Perhaps you should have caught that instead.
Santa:
For what it’s worth, it is reported in the local paper that the AIM driver recently lost his business, then separated from his wife. He was reported to be sleeping in his car, which is one explanation as to why he made no application for bail.The minibus driver was said to have had less than three hours sleep before setting off.
How does one describe as anything bar “Drink Problem” if one sleeps in the car, but has enough money to get legless before work?
How come his own employer didn’t pick up the fact that one of their own came in for duty more than three times over the limit?
I’m thinking “Blame” is going to be like Margarine on this one…
Olog Hai:
There is a train from York to Hull. Perhaps you should have caught that instead.
Really I thought they had stopped that service.It was a horrendous journey anyway.
Be much better if drivers drove safely and to the conditions.
Is that your picture commonrail?
You do look very common if I may say so.
See what ya did there
Nice one 
Dr Damon:
At present sitting on a bus between York and Hull.
Looking ahead everybody is nose to tail. The bus we are in, cars, lorries and the road is wet.
Let’s hope nothing unexpected happens.I wonder how many of the mentioned drivers think they are good and quite safe?
Guaranteed 99%
Hi Luke.
Winseer:
Santa:
For what it’s worth, it is reported in the local paper that the AIM driver recently lost his business, then separated from his wife. He was reported to be sleeping in his car, which is one explanation as to why he made no application for bail.The minibus driver was said to have had less than three hours sleep before setting off.
How does one describe as anything bar “Drink Problem” if one sleeps in the car, but has enough money to get legless before work?
How come his own employer didn’t pick up the fact that one of their own came in for duty more than three times over the limit?I’m thinking “Blame” is going to be like Margarine on this one…
If you think he was “more than three times over the limit” you may need some new batteries in your calculator.
Also, if you think that a breath/alcohol reading of 55 microgrammes per 100ml is anywhere remotely near “legless” your reality checker may need significant recalibration.
simcor:
You can be prosecuted for driving too slowly on a motorway fact.
When has anyone ever been prosecuted for driving at 50mph on a Motorway? or 40mph for that matter?
I pointed out you can be done for driving too slowly on a motorway, I didn’t mention a speed. You know that is correct I would hope. Maybe it’s time they actually put enough police back on the motorway and actually prosecuted for lane hogging, driving too slow, tailgating etc etc. Once upon a time we had police patrols on the motorways all the time, you could barely go on a journey without seeing a police car on the motorway. Now most of the police you see on a motorway are attending an accident or escorting something/someone. With the occasional one parked up on the humps looking for speeders or ANPR pings.
Roymondo:
Winseer:
Santa:
For what it’s worth, it is reported in the local paper that the AIM driver recently lost his business, then separated from his wife. He was reported to be sleeping in his car, which is one explanation as to why he made no application for bail.The minibus driver was said to have had less than three hours sleep before setting off.
How does one describe as anything bar “Drink Problem” if one sleeps in the car, but has enough money to get legless before work?
How come his own employer didn’t pick up the fact that one of their own came in for duty more than three times over the limit?I’m thinking “Blame” is going to be like Margarine on this one…
If you think he was “more than three times over the limit” you may need some new batteries in your calculator.
Also, if you think that a breath/alcohol reading of 55 microgrammes per 100ml is anywhere remotely near “legless” your reality checker may need significant recalibration.
How do any of you who think blowing 55mg means next to nothing. The guy was over the limit end of. How do you know how drunk he was blowing that amount. Drink affects different people different ways. He could be medication as well which could affect how drunk he was.
Arguing the toss he only blew 55mg so was hardly legless comes across as suggesting that drink driving is OK, it isn’t.
I am actually in favour of a 0 tolerance policy on drink driving, it would encourage people to be more responsible when drinking.
simcor:
Roymondo:
If you think he was “more than three times over the limit” you may need some new batteries in your calculator.Also, if you think that a breath/alcohol reading of 55 microgrammes per 100ml is anywhere remotely near “legless” your reality checker may need significant recalibration.
How do any of you who think blowing 55mg means next to nothing. The guy was over the limit end of. How do you know how drunk he was blowing that amount. Drink affects different people different ways. He could be medication as well which could affect how drunk he was.
Arguing the toss he only blew 55mg so was hardly legless comes across as suggesting that drink driving is OK, it isn’t.
I am actually in favour of a 0 tolerance policy on drink driving, it would encourage people to be more responsible when drinking.
I’m not suggesting for one moment that a breath alcohol reading of 55 microgrammes is acceptable when driving. What I am saying is that it is not at all easy to detect that level of intoxication by simply observing how he moves around (the definition of “legless” being that someone has major problems with co-ordination/balance), particularly if that person is one of several simply standing at the opposite side of a desk while you hand over their keys and paperwork.
simcor:
I pointed out you can be done for driving too slowly on a motorway, I didn’t mention a speed.
But your comment was in the context of a discussion about people driving cars on the Motorways at 50-55 mph. As far as I know, no-one has ever been prosecuted for doing that, which was rather my point.
True but if someone drinks and goes to work anyone can smell it usually from even a distance. I guess we won’t know of the driver started his shift drunk, was drinking while he was driving or after leaving the office we just don’t know yet.
If i haven’t had anything to eat i feel half ■■■■■■ on one 330ml bottle of reasonable lager, probably be fine on the blowbag but i know my judgement and motor skills are impaired, we aint all identirobots yet.
Dr Damon:
Captain Caveman 76:
Dr Damon:
Sorry fella but some do not cope.
agree
They get angry intimidate and harass drivers that they think should go faster.
agree
They are right to travel at 50 to 55. Just because it does not suit you does not make it wrong.
disagree
There is no minimum speed limit for some very good reasons.
disagree
Not all drivers feel comfortable traveling at the maximum speed limit.
Failing to make progress is a test failure. If you can’t drive at an appropriate speed for the conditions, you shouldn’t be on the roadFair enough I respect your opinion but why do you think nothing is done to stop these drivers sitting at these speeds.
One reason is because it is not deemed unsafe.
What does make it unsafe is other drivers not adapting their driving to accommodate the slower ones…
Have you ever considered what effect introducing say a minimum speed limit would cause?
I can assure you it would bring other major problems that may even more dangerous.
Yes you are quite correct about failing to make progress during a test but if you mention that then maybe all truck drivers should drive like they were taught and the roads would be far safer place.
If you read your highway code it does say that the recommended speed on a motorway is 30mph or above
On the subject of alcohol limits, it’s been zero for bus, truck, taxi drivers etc, for years over here. You also need a ‘driver authorisation’ to do these jobs.
Dr Damon:
Captain Caveman 76:
Dr Damon:
Sorry fella but some do not cope.
agree
They get angry intimidate and harass drivers that they think should go faster.
agree
They are right to travel at 50 to 55. Just because it does not suit you does not make it wrong.
disagree
There is no minimum speed limit for some very good reasons.
disagree
Not all drivers feel comfortable traveling at the maximum speed limit.
Failing to make progress is a test failure. If you can’t drive at an appropriate speed for the conditions, you shouldn’t be on the roadFair enough I respect your opinion but why do you think nothing is done to stop these drivers sitting at these speeds.
One reason is because it is not deemed unsafe.
What does make it unsafe is other drivers not adapting their driving to accommodate the slower ones…
Have you ever considered what effect introducing say a minimum speed limit would cause?
I can assure you it would bring other major problems that may even more dangerous.
Yes you are quite correct about failing to make progress during a test but if you mention that then maybe all truck drivers should drive like they were taught and the roads would be far safer place.
If there were no other vehicles on the road, I’d agree with you. But the motorways are shared spaces. In an ideal world, everyone would travel at the same speed whilst keeping a safe separation space. Unfortunately, someone driving a safe and legal 70mph in lane one coming up against someone doing 50 in front of them is going to have to change lanes. On a crowded motorway that can be difficult. Someone in lane two is going to have to slow down to let them in, causing a ripple effect behind them. It has been shown in studies (Google them yourself, I can’t be bothered) that the cause of these random jams that we all get stuck in from time to time are caused by people braking.
If you don’t believe me, find your nearest roadworks with a 50mph limit (there are plenty to choose from) and see how well slow moving traffic and fast moving traffic mix. The legality of what people do in the 50mph zone is NOT the point here. It’s purely a demonstration of fast and slow vehicles mixing.
It’s why you get bunch ups a mile away from junctions on motorways too.
It’s just unreasonable for a lorry doing 56mph to overtake a car on a motorway.
CC76 I am not quite sure what your point is here.
You mention about the problem of trying to overtake on a busy motorway.
The problem being getting out into the next lane presumably because nobody will let you out.
Generally that is because they are all nose to tail and to selfish to let others out.In that situation as the road is busy probably better to ease off and stay where you are.It is quite possible car drivers don’t want to let trucks out because they are fed up getting caught up in an elephant race.
Then you mention about roadworks restricted to 50.
Again as a truck driver surely it is safer and less stressful to stay in lane one keep a good distance from the vehicle in front and try to restore some faith to others that we can drive professionally.