Well, the police hgv unit seems to be catching a lot of offenders, I dare not say anything about it, otherwise I’ll get it the neck from a lot people on here!
eurotrans:
there are cameras everywhere in London and they can’t catch people committing crimes like stabbing or mugging
That’s because they’re far too busy concentrating on their priorities like motorists and truckers. 
Same old, same old yeh…but nevertheless true.
Sploom:
Well, the police hgv unit seems to be catching a lot of offenders, I dare not say anything about it, otherwise I’ll get it the neck from a lot people on here!
Go on you know you want to…
It’s a forum ffs,.are you really that bothered.
In my eyes Nothing wrong with Bluetooth taking a call hands free
As your only having a conversation.
If people start saying ban using Bluetooth then are the same.people also going to stop us from talking to any passenger sat in the car with us?as it’s the same thing.
And I feel.google need to be brought to account as well here.
As there new maps update. Is always encouraging drivers to use the app to report accidents speed cameras.
The amount of times I keep getting messages on there
is the speed camera still here? press yes or. No. Is congestion still here? press yes or no. Press here to report.a.camera or incident etc.
There encouraging people to report things while driving. Mmm what a good idea that it is
If people start saying ban using Bluetooth then are the same.people also going to stop us from talking to any passenger sat in the car with us?as it’s the same thing.
jakethesnake:
a driver on the phone being as bad or worse than somebody off their ■■■■ with drinkIf you try reading and digesting you may find that is not what I said.
Ok, I paraphrased it, but same meaning is it not? 
If I was on a road in my car and I was meeting a trucker on a phone conversation, or another one who was drunk, I know which I’d prefer to take my chances with I reckon.
I don’t like seeing drivers getting into trouble, but I’ve drove in countries where there is no enforcement of traffic laws, and it would be like that here as well if we didn’t have police cameras, and speed cameras and so on. I drive to work every day through a 30mph limit with radar systems that tell people to slow down, no one takes a blind bit of notice, it’s only when you put a speed camera and issue fines and penalty points that you get drivers to slow down, its the only language they understand.
There’s only 1 way to deter mobile phone use while driving.
At the moment it’s points and a fine .yet we see people all the time on there phones.
Will cost money but the police should have a huge crackdown on mobile use make it a priority
Then Insead of juat issuing a fine. They should confiscate the users mobile
Tell them report to your local police station the day after you can then collect your mobile back but you have to watch a 30min safety video on the dangers of mobile use 1st.
As fines and points mean nothing these days.
Clamp down hard for a couple of months take there phones and word will soon spread. Harsh. I know . But points and a fine haven’t achieved anything
Sploom:
it would be like that here as well if we didn’t have police cameras, and speed cameras and so on. .
On the contrary mate, that is part of the problem.
Proper policing by proper Police has been replaced by the usage of cameras, there is far too much reliance on them these days.
Maybe I’ve got my rosy specs on here, but when you used to see numerous Police patrol cars on the motorways, the standards of driving were far better as I remember it.
Yes, sure, there didn’t seem so much road rage either
I don’t think it’s the severity of punishments for offences. It seems to be whether or not you reckon you’ll be caught.
Even a modest fine should be enough of you believed you’d be caught every time wouldn’t it? More visible policing, as already said, is a deterrent to all sorts of crimes.
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Should it be an offence to warn of speed traps? If we reckon we know where they all are won’t we be tempted to speed between them? If we’re more uncertain, won’t we be more cautious and drive correctly all the time?
Yeah, bag of worms there.
P.S. I appreciate flashed lights and other warnings and give them out too. And outlawing them won’t stop them. But does a sense of security of protection from being caught encourage speeding?
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whether its wrong or right usually a trap such as this usually comes unstuck unexpectedly. its like the farmer hunting crows and one day as he climbs into his jeep his gun goes off and shoots him in the foot. im waiting to read of a police truck skiddaddling down an embankment all killed inside it when a startled driver sideswipes them
edd1974:
Hope what ever he bought was worth it
He was paying the last fine for using his phone at the wheel…?
corij:
im waiting to read of a police truck skiddaddling down an embankment all killed inside it when a startled driver sideswipes them
I’d draw the line at the ‘’ all killed inside’’ bit, (I aint THAT vindictive 
…and maybe not down an embankment)
…Other than that it would make my ■■■■ day. 
I don’t suppose the driver was a Mr D. Beckham was it?
robroy:
jakethesnake:
a driver on the phone being as bad or worse than somebody off their ■■■■ with drinkIf you try reading and digesting you may find that is not what I said.
Ok, I paraphrased it, but same meaning is it not?
If I was on a road in my car and I was meeting a trucker on a phone conversation, or another one who was drunk, I know which I’d prefer to take my chances with I reckon.
I really thought you may have fathomed this one out. It gets mentioned plenty but maybe you don’t read about it!
What I am referring to is when a driver has had maybe a couple of drinks and is over the limit but still able to look where he is going with a reasonable amount of concentration against a driver who is looking at his phone instead of looking at the road which incase you are unaware is a fairly common occurance these days.
That is why it is often said that a driver using his phone is more dangerous!
jakethesnake:
robroy:
jakethesnake:
a driver on the phone being as bad or worse than somebody off their ■■■■ with drinkIf you try reading and digesting you may find that is not what I said.
Ok, I paraphrased it, but same meaning is it not?
If I was on a road in my car and I was meeting a trucker on a phone conversation, or another one who was drunk, I know which I’d prefer to take my chances with I reckon.I really thought you may have fathomed this one out. It gets mentioned plenty but maybe you don’t read about it!
What I am referring to is when a driver has had maybe a couple of drinks and is over the limit but still able to look where he is going with a reasonable amount of concentration against a driver who is looking at his phone instead of looking at the road which incase you are unaware is a fairly common occurance these days.That is why it is often said that a driver using his phone is more dangerous!
You say over the limit, …a legal limit.
Limits are set on a whim of whoever is in charge of it, and the goalposts are often moved.
In the old days it was ‘‘driving whilst DRUNK’’ which was quite rightly so illegal, nowadays it is driving over a set limit, so not necessarilly ‘‘DRUNK’’ as such with all the impairements that state of mind brings with it.
So for instance if I have a couple of drinks in Carlisle and get stopped, I’m allowed to carry on, I’m ‘‘SAFE’’ 
So then I continue and half a mile down the road to Gretna Scotland, I’m pulled again, …but hey ho suddenlly I’m over their ridiculously low limit, so I’m branded an… irresponsible potential murdering carnage artist (by you 
) …the law is an ass,… as they say.
So that was my point,… In your eyes, and in the guys who are paid to devise these ridiculous surveys (just as an agenda to prove their point) …in Scotland ‘‘I’m less dangerous than a phone user’’ in England 200 yds away…I aint.
Look mate, I know I’m being arsey and pedantic, but I’m trying to point out to you why I have a cynical attitude to any bloody official based thing I am told, ie… statistics or ‘‘studies’’ by any official body, (and reasons for Police tractor units also) and I can not understand why people like yourself just readily accept all this type of official rhetoric dog ■■■■ as the God’s own Gospel which ‘‘must be obeyed’’ …because 9.5 times out of 10 it’s only there to ‘‘prove’’ their points to get people to cowtow down to them.
And that is the way I see it all as I’m a confirmed realist…
You say over the limit, …a legal limit.
Limits are set on a whim of whoever is in charge of it, and the goalposts are often moved.
In the old days it was ‘‘driving whilst DRUNK’’ which was quite rightly so illegal, nowadays it is driving over a set limit, so not necessarilly ‘‘DRUNK’’ as such with all the impairements that state of mind brings with it.
So for instance if I have a couple of drinks in Carlisle and get stopped, I’m allowed to carry on, I’m ‘‘SAFE’’
So then I continue and half a mile down the road to Gretna Scotland, I’m pulled again, …but hey ho suddenlly I’m over their ridiculously low limit, so I’m branded an… irresponsible potential murdering carnage artist (by you ) …the law is an ■■■,… as they say.
So that was my point,… In your eyes, and in the guys who are paid to devise these ridiculous surveys (just as an agenda to prove their point) …in Scotland ‘‘I’m less dangerous than a phone user’’ in England 200 yds away…I aint.
Look mate, I know I’m being arsey and pedantic, but I’m trying to point out to you why I have a cynical attitude to any bloody official based thing I am told, ie… statistics or ‘‘studies’’ by any official body, (and reasons for Police tractor units also) and I can not understand why people like yourself just readily accept all this type of official rhetoric dog [zb] as the God’s own Gospel which ‘‘must be obeyed’’ …because 9.5 times out of 10 it’s only there to ‘‘prove’’ their points to get people to cowtow down to them.
And that is the way I see it all as I’m a confirmed realist…
Listen I agree with you to a certain extent and probably if I had carried on as a driver like yourself I would feel exactly the same however I have had my eyes opened regarding road safety etc and it’s not just about statistics and surveys as you say it’s about real life situations and the confusion that surrounds a lot of drivers.A lot are totally unaware of the consequences of their actions until they see how easily it can all go wrong in front of their eyes and I think you will agree when we see how some drive day in day out. I totally agree with you about cameras etc and that we need far more police presence on our roads but…
I also totally agree the law is an ■■■ in a lot of ways. Regarding drink and drive there should be a no alcohol allowed at all if driving as as I am sure you are aware everyone reacts differently to different amounts. I could go on but I know you are not interested in any form of drivers improving themselves although you freely admit the standards are appalling.
I am sure you are more than capable as a driver and probably one of the better drivers with all your years of experience but I am also sure there is some room for improvement as there is with all drivers but will it ever happen?
Anyway I know I am wasting my time going on about this to you but TBH all I really would like to see is a reduction in road casualties and deaths. Is that really so bad?
And believe you me I am not a one man crusade in all this. Far from it.