Dipper_Dave:
Forkies in general i try and get on with as I find they tend to know what their doing (oh alright some of them do) but unless a driver puts them right they will carry on regardless.
But this person has tried and failed over a 12mth period so if guessing they don’t like him/her.
Yep quite possible we have a personality clash here and the forkie is being less than helpful, I would be careful though as forkies tend to know how far they can push it.
If the forkie knew the weights and still overloaded the axles even after driver advice then he’s in the poop.
It’s been a ongoing problem management know about it but leave it down to me sort out by walking out they now have to take action I’m surely well within in my rights not to take a overloaded lorry out on the road.
As captain of your ship you are well within your rights, dare I say legally obligated to refuse to take on the public highway any load you feel is unsafe / insecure / breaches C & U regulations etc… possible exception being to drive to a weighbridge for confirmation. However there are ways to do this, hopefully you didn’t just say f-it and strop off, but raised the concern with your TM first. It doesn’t matter whats been done before its this instance that matters.
no I just said enough is enough I have spoken to my manger couple of hours after walking out he seemed ok but still got to go for meeting with him.
Dipper_Dave:
Forkies in general i try and get on with as I find they tend to know what their doing (oh alright some of them do) but unless a driver puts them right they will carry on regardless.
But this person has tried and failed over a 12mth period so if guessing they don’t like him/her.
Yep quite possible we have a personality clash here and the forkie is being less than helpful, I would be careful though as forkies tend to know how far they can push it.
If the forkie knew the weights and still overloaded the axles even after driver advice then he’s in the poop.
It’s been a ongoing problem management know about it but leave it down to me sort out by walking out they now have to take action I’m surely well within in my rights not to take a overloaded lorry out on the road.
As captain of your ship you are well within your rights, dare I say legally obligated to refuse to take on the public highway any load you feel is unsafe / insecure / breaches C & U regulations etc… possible exception being to drive to a weighbridge for confirmation. However there are ways to do this, hopefully you didn’t just say f-it and strop off, but raised the concern with your TM first. It doesn’t matter whats been done before its this instance that matters.
no I just said enough is enough I have spoken to my manger couple of hours after walking out he seemed ok but still got to go for meeting with him.
Sorry done a bit of an edit to my earlier post so copied it over to this post, bit of a coincidence so folks don’t think I’m psychic:
If you did then perhaps a bit of humble pie maybe in order to help put your case across. i.e. “look guv I’m sick of this, the load is obviously not right and I asked the forklift driver to move it about for better weight distribution but he refused and regardless of whats happened before I feel I can no longer work in this environment of incompetence and it may be best if we part company. I reserve my right to inform whoever I feel neccesary to report this dodgy practice, yes I have pictures (say this even if you don’t) and I intend to pursue a career with a company that plays things by the book and takes notice of driver feedback and their knowledge of vehicle safety.”
Shake hands and walk out…
Oh and don’t worry managers are just as nervous as you at these meetings, most folks don’t like confrontation- unlike people like me who feed on it
Dipper_Dave:
Forkies in general i try and get on with as I find they tend to know what their doing (oh alright some of them do) but unless a driver puts them right they will carry on regardless.
But this person has tried and failed over a 12mth period so if guessing they don’t like him/her.
Yep quite possible we have a personality clash here and the forkie is being less than helpful, I would be careful though as forkies tend to know how far they can push it.
If the forkie knew the weights and still overloaded the axles even after driver advice then he’s in the poop.
It’s been a ongoing problem management know about it but leave it down to me sort out by walking out they now have to take action I’m surely well within in my rights not to take a overloaded lorry out on the road.
you are well within your rights not to take an overloaded truck out. but walking out is not the answer you shud have let them sack you for not taking it out. you potentially made yourself jobless they have no need to take you back now you have walked
Thought there was a cooling off period■■?
iv never heard of a cooling of period before but that don’t mean there isn’t one but only being in a job only 12moths doesn’t give you to much protection from the unscrupulous employers
chester1:
you are well within your rights not to take an overloaded truck out. but walking out is not the answer you shud have let them sack you for not taking it out. you potentially made yourself jobless they have no need to take you back now you have walked
Well within your rights to refuse to take a badly loaded truck out also. The driver is responsible, end of, and if he wants something moving then it should be moved with no questions asked. Our forkies are generally very good at what they do but if a driver asks for something moving it gets done, no problems.
Dipper_Dave:
Forkies in general i try and get on with as I find they tend to know what their doing (oh alright some of them do) but unless a driver puts them right they will carry on regardless.
But this person has tried and failed over a 12mth period so if guessing they don’t like him/her.
Yep quite possible we have a personality clash here and the forkie is being less than helpful, I would be careful though as forkies tend to know how far they can push it.
If the forkie knew the weights and still overloaded the axles even after driver advice then he’s in the poop.
It’s been a ongoing problem management know about it but leave it down to me sort out by walking out they now have to take action I’m surely well within in my rights not to take a overloaded lorry out on the road.
As captain of your ship you are well within your rights, dare I say legally obligated to refuse to take on the public highway any load you feel is unsafe / insecure / breaches C & U regulations etc… possible exception being to drive to a weighbridge for confirmation. However there are ways to do this, hopefully you didn’t just say f-it and strop off, but raised the concern with your TM first. It doesn’t matter whats been done before its this instance that matters.
no I just said enough is enough I have spoken to my manger couple of hours after walking out he seemed ok but still got to go for meeting with him.
I think your chances to depends on what type of employee you are and what type of manager he is, the fact you’ve got a meeting might be a good thing, (it’s gone both ways for me in the past). but you may have to eat a bit of humble pie as you’ve gone about handling your grievance in the wrong way and it can’t be seen as the way to get things done is to walk out.
But if he’s a good manager once he’s dealt with you he’ll deal with your grevience, and make sure the loading is being done properly.
Dipper_Dave:
Forkies in general i try and get on with as I find they tend to know what their doing (oh alright some of them do) but unless a driver puts them right they will carry on regardless.
But this person has tried and failed over a 12mth period so if guessing they don’t like him/her.
Yep quite possible we have a personality clash here and the forkie is being less than helpful, I would be careful though as forkies tend to know how far they can push it.
If the forkie knew the weights and still overloaded the axles even after driver advice then he’s in the poop.
It’s been a ongoing problem management know about it but leave it down to me sort out by walking out they now have to take action I’m surely well within in my rights not to take a overloaded lorry out on the road.
you are well within your rights not to take an overloaded truck out. but walking out is not the answer you shud have let them sack you for not taking it out. you potentially made yourself jobless they have no need to take you back now you have walked
Thought there was a cooling off period■■?
iv never heard of a cooling of period before but that don’t mean there isn’t one but only being in a job only 12moths doesn’t give you to much protection from the unscrupulous employers
Dipper_Dave:
Forkies in general i try and get on with as I find they tend to know what their doing (oh alright some of them do) but unless a driver puts them right they will carry on regardless.
But this person has tried and failed over a 12mth period so if guessing they don’t like him/her.
Yep quite possible we have a personality clash here and the forkie is being less than helpful, I would be careful though as forkies tend to know how far they can push it.
If the forkie knew the weights and still overloaded the axles even after driver advice then he’s in the poop.
It’s been a ongoing problem management know about it but leave it down to me sort out by walking out they now have to take action I’m surely well within in my rights not to take a overloaded lorry out on the road.
thanks for advice will see how things go in meeting.
As captain of your ship you are well within your rights, dare I say legally obligated to refuse to take on the public highway any load you feel is unsafe / insecure / breaches C & U regulations etc… possible exception being to drive to a weighbridge for confirmation. However there are ways to do this, hopefully you didn’t just say f-it and strop off, but raised the concern with your TM first. It doesn’t matter whats been done before its this instance that matters.
no I just said enough is enough I have spoken to my manger couple of hours after walking out he seemed ok but still got to go for meeting with him.
Sorry done a bit of an edit to my earlier post so copied it over to this post, bit of a coincidence so folks don’t think I’m psychic:
If you did then perhaps a bit of humble pie maybe in order to help put your case across. i.e. “look guv I’m sick of this, the load is obviously not right and I asked the forklift driver to move it about for better weight distribution but he refused and regardless of whats happened before I feel I can no longer work in this environment of incompetence and it may be best if we part company. I reserve my right to inform whoever I feel neccesary to report this dodgy practice, yes I have pictures (say this even if you don’t) and I intend to pursue a career with a company that plays things by the book and takes notice of driver feedback and their knowledge of vehicle safety.”
Shake hands and walk out…
Oh and don’t worry managers are just as nervous as you at these meetings, most folks don’t like confrontation- unlike people like me who feed on it
The weighbridge doesn’t necessarily come into it. Regardless of whether the vehicle is overloaded or not, the load does need to be distributed sensibly. For simplicity lets assume a two axle 14 pallet rigid carrying 10 tonnes. 7 tonnes along the nearside and 3 on the offside is not safe. Neither is it sensible or even safe to load four top heavy 9ft high pallets weighing 3 tonnes, right on the back, behind the rest of the five tonne load which is only three ft high, even if the rear four do not overload the rear axle.
