raymundo:
Or stop them from getting to Italy or like places to start with. As hard and horrible as it might sound why should we accept being over run by unwanted foreigners how ever hard it may be in their own country ? My answer is annihilate the [zb] by whatever means who are causing the strife in their own place of birth.
I think our actions in “helping” in these countries has caused half the problems.
muckles:
Carryfast:
HeavyOwl:
I feel very sad for all o them. They’re coming from extreme poverty. War torn countries, women and girls getting gang raped on their way here! I pray their respective countries sort their [zb] out so these refugees can go back home. Amen.Bleeding heart bs.
You’re missing the point that those countries they are running from are just a reflection of the society which they have made for themselves.Therefore they should be turned back and told to zb off back home on the basis of they’ve made their bed now lie in it or fix it.
So on the same principle it’s you that has made our country what it is?
It’s you that lost our manufacturing industry.
It’s you that lost our international haulage industry.
It’s you that allows mass immigration.
partly
lost because we were too expensive and far eastern countries could make the same cheaper and better
lost because we were too expensive and east european countries could do it cheaper but not always better
No, as ‘minions’ we have no say on immigration !
muckles:
raymundo:
Or stop them from getting to Italy or like places to start with. As hard and horrible as it might sound why should we accept being over run by unwanted foreigners how ever hard it may be in their own country ? My answer is annihilate the [zb] by whatever means who are causing the strife in their own place of birth.I think our actions in “helping” in these countries has caused half the problems.
that and trying to create democracy in some of those places, when clearly they don’t want to live in a democracy , with the exception of claiming asylum in democratic western countries where they can sponge, But some are not fleeing from wars or persecution ,they aren’t even fleeing anything, they are lured to the uk because of it’s soft touch reputation, that is also a bigger part of this problem
Interesting program and it seems far harder to get to the UK that it was, it seemed many have been in Calais for many months, also the CRS have been very active in Calais and have been able to use far more force than the British Police would ever be allowed to. The CRS have been in Calais in force for a long while now, they are parked at the Ibis hotel and they doubled the vehicles they had there late last year.
It also seems very easy to get onto a Waberers truck and their drivers don’t do security checks, was the Brit driver working for Denby’s? It seems he did his checks, I’d be wary of doing them on my own early in the morning in Calais, but then I don’t park in Calais these days, but still check my truck inside and out. However this doesn’t stop them climbing onto the trailer axles when I’m stuck in a queue waiting to get into the Euro Tunnel Terminal.
raymundo:
Carryfast:
HeavyOwl:
I feel very sad for all o them. They’re coming from extreme poverty. War torn countries, women and girls getting gang raped on their way here! I pray their respective countries sort their [zb] out so these refugees can go back home. Amen.Bleeding heart bs.
You’re missing the point that those countries they are running from are just a reflection of the society which they have made for themselves.Therefore they should be turned back and told to zb off back home on the basis of they’ve made their bed now lie in it or fix it.
CF, How do you work that one out, have THEY really made their own countries as they are now, or are they just like us in this so called democratic society of ours that’s controlled 100% by the idiots in power who use them or abuse them solely to their own advantage ? While I have every sympathy for the genuine cases I still wish they would be happy if they decided to stay in Italy or Greece or wherever they first enter the EU and not the UK simply cos we are full up.
In general the ‘idiots in power’ are only there because the society in question wants/puts/keeps them there.While sometimes having destabilised their own countries by fighting moderate leaderships like Assad.While you only need to look at Islamic society for one example to realise that it’s mostly about economic migration and/or foreign take over ambitions not supposedly fleeing from their own culture.
On that note there is absolutely no reason why any ‘refugees’ from unstable parts of Africa or Asia can’t be resettled within stable parts of those continents.In which case the question is why should any European country have to take them when their are plenty of places like Turkey,Jordan,Kuwait,Saudi regards Asian ‘refugees’ and parts of Northern,Central and South Africa which are more than stable enough for African ‘refugees’.
As for all the bleeding heart bs we’ve been here before with the Band Aid song v the reality.Where nothing ever grows no rain or rivers flow yeah right.It looks a lot safer,greener and wetter than Israel was when the Israelis got back home and turned the place around.
raymundo:
muckles:
Carryfast:
HeavyOwl:
I feel very sad for all o them. They’re coming from extreme poverty. War torn countries, women and girls getting gang raped on their way here! I pray their respective countries sort their [zb] out so these refugees can go back home. Amen.Bleeding heart bs.
You’re missing the point that those countries they are running from are just a reflection of the society which they have made for themselves.Therefore they should be turned back and told to zb off back home on the basis of they’ve made their bed now lie in it or fix it.
So on the same principle it’s you that has made our country what it is?
It’s you that lost our manufacturing industry.
It’s you that lost our international haulage industry.
It’s you that allows mass immigration.partly
lost because we were too expensive and far eastern countries could make the same cheaper and better
lost because we were too expensive and east european countries could do it cheaper but not always better
No, as ‘minions’ we have no say on immigration !
You’ve missed the point, the immigrants probably have as little control as to what happens in their country as we “minions” have in ours, so saying they wrecked their country is as valid as saying we’re responsible for the [zb] up of our politicians and business leaders.
In 1948 the Israelis invaded Palestine , as afar as I know they had no right to be there but just took over, how many of them had ever set foot in the place before the invasion or even their forebears ?
raymundo:
Question … How di they mange to charge their posh smart phones up while in the ‘jungle’ ?
ps. I’ve been to Morocco quite often and that’s not a war torn or poverty stricken country !!
I’ve always wondered, how they get their phones and how they pay for their use. I think it’s evidence of organised crime being behind these people, they supply them with phone so they can contact them when they get here.
You’re missing the point that those countries they are running from are just a reflection of the society which they have made for themselves.Therefore they should be turned back and told to zb off back home on the basis of they’ve made their bed now lie in it or fix it. 
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So on the same principle it’s you that has made our country what it is?
It’s you that lost our manufacturing industry.
It’s you that lost our international haulage industry.
It’s you that allows mass immigration.
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partly
lost because we were too expensive and far eastern countries could make the same cheaper and better
lost because we were too expensive and east european countries could do it cheaper but not always better
No, as ‘minions’ we have no say on immigration !
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You’ve missed the point, the immigrants probably have as little control as to what happens in their country as we “minions” have in ours, so saying they wrecked their country is as valid as saying we’re responsible for the [zb] up of our politicians and business leaders.
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Well we are aren’t we? who voted them back into power last May? I don’t think the immigrants have any control whatsoever what happens in their own country but why should we bear the brunt of that?
raymundo:
In 1948 the Israelis invaded Palestine , as afar as I know they had no right to be there but just took over, how many of them had ever set foot in the place before the invasion or even their forebears ?
That’s the Brit propaganda view used to justify keeping them out of their own country.Note the irony of opening our doors to foreign populations running from their own place having fought to keep the Israelis from returning to theirs.
Carryfast:
raymundo:
In 1948 the Israelis invaded Palestine , as afar as I know they had no right to be there but just took over, how many of them had ever set foot in the place before the invasion or even their forebears ?That’s the Brit propaganda view used to justify keeping them out of their own country.Note the irony of opening our doors to foreign populations running from their own place having fought to keep the Israelis from returning to theirs.
FFS CF, I asked a simple question which was how many of them or their forebears had ever set foot in Palestine before their invasion ? Do you know the facts or not ?
raymundo:
Carryfast:
raymundo:
In 1948 the Israelis invaded Palestine , as afar as I know they had no right to be there but just took over, how many of them had ever set foot in the place before the invasion or even their forebears ?That’s the Brit propaganda view used to justify keeping them out of their own country.Note the irony of opening our doors to foreign populations running from their own place having fought to keep the Israelis from returning to theirs.
FFS CF, I asked a simple question which was how many of them or their forebears had ever set foot in Palestine before their invasion ? Do you know the facts or not ?
That would obviously depend on wether anyone swallows a defintion of nationality based on jus soli or jus sanguinis.It’s just that the issue of Israeli nationality takes the latter ( correct ) definition to it’s logical conclusion.While your idea obviously results in the possibility of an indigenous decent Brit being denied national status owning to being born and raised outside the country.Let alone the pre 1948 Israeli situation of Israelis being rendered stateless by an invading foreign population taking their country over.IE be careful what you wish for. 
HeavyOwl:
I feel very sad for all o them. They’re coming from extreme poverty. War torn countries, women and girls getting gang raped on their way here! I pray their respective countries sort their [zb] out so these refugees can go back home. Amen.
I don’t feel sad for any of them they’re economic migrants not refugees.
The real refugees are in Paletsine and Turkey without a pot to ■■■■ and struggling to survive.
You’re hardly excaping extreme poverty if your paying thousands od dollars to cross the Med and then train fares across Europe.
I doubt there’s many on here who could rustle up the money they are spending at short notice.
It does make you wonder who’s funding the trip
muckles:
raymundo:
Question … How di they mange to charge their posh smart phones up while in the ‘jungle’ ?
ps. I’ve been to Morocco quite often and that’s not a war torn or poverty stricken country !!I’ve always wondered, how they get their phones and how they pay for their use. I think it’s evidence of organised crime being behind these people, they supply them with phone so they can contact them when they get here.
They go to centres in caais where they get handouts of clothes and food I presume they charge there phones there aswell
A lot of the filming of them getting in the trailers was done at the side of a restaurant on the st omer road it’s about its about 4 or 5 mile from train or port guess they used that location so camera team didn’t get caught
For me I don’t believe a single word any of them say all this we can’t go back we will get killed I bet there countrys don’t even no they gave gone.
That one that spoke excellent english to excellent for me he says he was in UK be before but had to go home for family illness more like he was evicted from the UK and he is know trying again
Pity the reporter didn’t ask him how he got home without papers
Soldier z:
HeavyOwl:
I feel very sad for all o them.
I doubt there’s many on here who could rustle up the money they are spending at short notice.It does make you wonder who’s funding the trip
It must be hard choosing which designer sunglasses to purchase in poverty & grief, 
exampled by the same fella in both pic`s . one day an AK - the next - suburban diplomat refugee in designer attire - - really 
wtf
Are they the latest designer **Ray Ban**s ’ adorned per chance 
raymundo:
In 1948 the Israelis invaded Palestine , as afar as I know they had no right to be there but just took over, how many of them had ever set foot in the place before the invasion or even their forebears ?
blame the british again ray , the balfour declaration in 1919 guaranteed a jewish homeland in palestine . dave
rigsby:
raymundo:
In 1948 the Israelis invaded Palestine , as afar as I know they had no right to be there but just took over, how many of them had ever set foot in the place before the invasion or even their forebears ?blame the british again ray , the balfour declaration in 1919 guaranteed a jewish homeland in palestine . dave
The Jewish homeland was there long before the Romans invented Palestine.
While like the Irish the Brits ‘guaranteed’ them zb all except trying to kill those who Hitler had missed.At least until the Americans told us which side we’re supposed to be on.The problem being that now both us and the Americans have lost the plot in the region.
While it looks like the Arab/Islamic cause is now going to try to do here what it tried to do in Israel and the Brits as usual are stupid enough to let them do it.
Well I watched it… was nice to see the reporter got a kicking in to the bargin…lmao
But on a more serious note, me thinks it was purely done to tug at the heart strings… but it was good to see them French guys getting there hands dirty… pity that they cannot have the support of a joint French & British armed forces to bolster there numbers, certainly it would help on the inspection side of things…
We are still struggling in the UK with housing, unemployment, welfare and whilst I am sympatric to there plight, I’m more of a realist… They want to come to the UK for a better life… but don’t have the money to support themselves, don’t have the education or the essential stills to get work…
So the Tax payer is having to financially support them with housing living costs, medical cost the list does go on…
Well i should hope and think that the bleeding heart MP Yvette cooper has just thrown away her chances of being Labour leader with her calls for the uk to take another 10.000 clandestine’s She is must be taking some mind altering drugs , certainly will not get my vote
I see Hungary are fed up with the masses trying to go to Germany, they have shut their railway stn That merkel seems to be another bleeding heart , she needs to go as well