Saaamon:
Looks like the lorry was turning left then.
Looks like a rigid too. I see a long narrow number plate under the offside lights.
Juddian:
There’s a few here should get themselves excused from jury duty.Evidence?..wassat?
To put another view on this, and i have been doing this job a while now…hows about professional drivers cleaning their windows and mirrors, setting them correctly to cover the whole of the blind areas, then and i know this going to be the difficult one…actually use them.
There thats as unbalanced to the current dreadful accident on this thread as the other blinkered views.
I wish the poor injured cyclist well.
You are always going to get a blind spot no matter what you do, even in a car you have a blind spot!
Truck looks too close to the junction to be a classic left turn type accident unless its been parked up properly and reversed back
Not really any point speculating, both of these people went out that day not expecting to be in that situation and either could be at fault or a bit of both, most of these incidents are a combination of events. I believe they arrest the driver just to get a statement under caution it’s more a procedure.
Like some truck drivers the actions of some cyclists leave a lot to be desired, last time I drove a truck through central London, one cyclists decided to get between the left hand side of my truck and the boarding for a building site, while I was waiting to turn left at a set of lights. The gap was so tight he had to pull him self along by holding the side of my truck, but again it’s a minority as there were others waiting behind the truck and They probably thought he was as much of a moron as I did.
dar1976:
happysack:
I’m afraid (moderator in waiting) dar, you are wrong. When you know the facts, tell us.How can you say I am wrong when you don’t know the facts either.
I don’t know the facts. That’s why I said you can’t agree with someoneunless you know. Jesus…
Mike-C:
Saaamon:
Looks like the lorry was turning left then.Looks like a rigid too. I see a long narrow number plate under the offside lights.
Oh yeah obvious that must said lorry, only looked at the bike.
I really feel for these drivers that get caught up in this stuff, no one sets off at the start of the day to injury or kill someone, but that one time you let your guard down can be all it takes.
@tango boy, to be fair i think if he had of jumped the lights then the truck mite of seen him.
ajt:
Truck looks too close to the junction to be a classic left turn type accident unless its been parked up properly and reversed back
Not in an artic but as mike c pointed out looks like its a rigid.
Saaamon:
Mike-C:
Saaamon:
Looks like the lorry was turning left then.Looks like a rigid too. I see a long narrow number plate under the offside lights.
Oh yeah obvious that must said lorry, only looked at the bike.
I really feel for these drivers that get caught up in this stuff, no one sets off at the start of the day to injury or kill someone, but that one time you let your guard down can be all it takes.
@tango boy, to be fair i think if he had of jumped the lights then the truck mite of seen him.
Yes mate granted, it was a statement thats all. We dont go out set in mind we’re going to kill any body but the roads are so over crouded accidents are more and more frequent 
tango boy:
Mike-C:
MMMMM set of traffic lights, interesting to see if the poor cyclist ran a red like they do
Stats seem to show that these incidents don’t involve the cyclists jumping red lights, but waiting at the lights and then moving off alongside a truck. I believe there is initiatives to educate both side, but, as we see from what gets posted here and on cycling forums, both sides have plenty of people with entrenched views which don’t really help to solve the problem.
muckles:
tango boy:
Mike-C:
MMMMM set of traffic lights, interesting to see if the poor cyclist ran a red like they do
Stats seem to show that these incidents don’t involve the cyclists jumping red lights, but waiting at the lights and then moving off alongside a truck. I believe there is initiatives to educate both side, but, as we see from what gets posted here and on cycling forums, both sides have plenty of people with entrenched views which don’t really help to solve the problem.
Fair point. This is where i really wish i had one of those forward facing camera’s cos i have seen cyclists running reds, not just in london
SteveBarnsleytrucker:
Juddian:
.You are always going to get a blind spot no matter what you do, even in a car you have a blind spot!
Wouldn’t necessarily agree with that if everythings set up properly, most modern lorries have enough mirrors to overlap each other and cover the whole of the front, nsf corner and the entire nearside, mine do.
However thats not to say that i’m clever enough to spot a cylcist creeping up when i’m trying to look at a hundred other things too, so agree with you that there will effectively be blind areas no matter what you do.
I merely made the point as Devils advocate.
Saamon was quite right about the state of some mirrors tjhough, when i have to use someone else’s lorry i often wonder how the hell they manage to see anything at all, NS down mirror giving a birds eye view of the passenger door and wing, front down mirror a view of the bonnet, and the main mirrors only useful for spotting an incoming Zero or Stuka dive bomber…and all of 'em bloody filthy including a film on the inside of the windows thats been there since the sodding lorry left the factory, what hope on a sunny day of seeing anything.
You have to do your best to lessen the chances of any bump.
Harry Monk:
Well, let’s face it, the driver of an articulated lorry may not always be able to see a cyclist, but a cyclist should always be able to see an articulated lorry.Perhaps, in their own interest, cyclists should be subject to compulsory basic training?
Totally agree, I’m not commenting on this circumstance because I wasn’t there to see what happened but I do spend all day watching closely for the cyclists on a death wish sometimes they really don’t help them selfs if I was on a bike the last thing I would do would be to cycle up the inside off a lorry at a set off lights or weave in and out off traffic assuming everyone around me has spotted me the driver will always get the blame and be arrested at the scene as “procedure” but a little common sense and a cycle proficiency course could save alot off lives being ruined.
The cyclists in London are bad enough but putting tourists on Boris bikes 
You have to see it to believe it 
Is it just me or do most of these accidents involve construction lorries?
The thing i wonder is. Just like the bike in the picture, the bike in the accident was a Barclays hire bike. I wonder what steps Barclays take to ensure the people hiring them are able to use them competentley ?
Well it’s a skip (roll on-off) - they all drive like nutters! NEXT
Sorry, just adding to the kangaroo court but from t’other side
being arrested after a serious accident doesn’t mean a thing, its only a process to secure evidence, you can be arrested and de-arrested on the side of the road, once the full details are know it quite possible that the driver will be de-arrested and no charges ever bought, but until the evidence gather and processed that’s how it has to be 
jj72:
Well it’s a skip (roll on-off) - they all drive like nutters! NEXTSorry, just adding to the kangaroo court but from t’other side
They mostly drive like nutters I know a few good ones 
(Only a few though)
You’ve got until midnight to debate it, the we’ll be asking the Jury here for a verdict thanks…
Harry Monk:
Well, let’s face it, the driver of an articulated lorry may not always be able to see a cyclist, but a cyclist should always be able to see an articulated lorry.Perhaps, in their own interest, cyclists should be subject to compulsory basic training?
Where did it say artic?
Saaamon:
Juddian:
There’s a few here should get themselves excused from jury duty.Evidence?..wassat?
To put another view on this, and i have been doing this job a while now…hows about professional drivers cleaning their windows and mirrors, setting them correctly to cover the whole of the blind areas, then and i know this going to be the difficult one…actually use them.
There thats as unbalanced to the current dreadful accident on this thread as the other blinkered views.
I wish the poor injured cyclist well.
I agree about the mirrors, you see many trucks with dirty windows etc the kerb mirror not set up and the big mirrors pointing right up in the air which in my opinion is wrong, i have mine set down as i dont need to see the top of the trailer!
Looks like the lorry was turning left then.
I actually have my drivers ‘big mirror’ as upwards as it’ll go in my Merc, the blind spot mirror on the drivers side is very good, but if you use the sun blind on the drivers window, you lose 1/2 your drivers ‘big miror’ so you adjust it so the bottom half that’s useable shows the area you need to see rather than the rear wheel of the unit
Mirrors will always look wrong if you get in after someone else, because you’re a different height, different leg length, adjust the seat etc.
Mike-C:
You’ve got until midnight to debate it, the we’ll be asking the Jury here for a verdict thanks…
Where’s CF as he would know who was in the wrong 