London Lorry Ban Fines Automatic?

weeto:

Dazzler:

weeto:
The driver only gets fined if they have got a crap boss.
And they mainly target areas with insufficient road signs, like roads that don’t have the sign at the start of the restriction, got caught out on the A21 a couple of years ago, there is a pre warning sign about half a mile from the roundabout which can easily be missed, but no signs as you come off the roundabout onto the A21.

What does ‘having a crap boss’ to do with it.

My drivers are told what route to take and have each got a Pie Guide in the cab which shows all the correct routes.

If they choose to ignore it it and get fined it is down to them.

Plus, when a vehicle breaks a ban and gets caught, the company is sent a letter requiring them to provide the drivers details.

[zb]

Thats all well and good if the owner supplies info on the ban, and proper road signs are in use.
When a fine does come in, there is nothing stopping the truck owner putting their name on as the driver = no driver fine, as in an owner driver who breaches the restrictions won’t receive both fines.

I can assure you that an owner driver will receive 2 x fines. I as the driver / 1 as the operator, I know as I speak from experience.

The ban has been in force since around 1985 so is not new. Maps are available to buy and to download free.

It is a traffic regulation that as a professional driver is your responsibility to adhere to just as with any weight, length, width or height restriction.

Ignore the sign, pay the fine. Simple

MickyB666:

Tris:
I went through some “access only” weight limits in London last week. Thing is I plan my routes as best I can, and programme my sat Nav with way points so I’m on the route that looks best, but then hit a weight limit. I’ll be fôoked if I’m gonna start winging it while I’m driving by going down streets that I’ve not planned. Also last week I was on the A34 heading into Congleton when an RTA closed the road. Had to turn the artic around and then pulled up where the cars could pass and got me map out. Found the best option I could. Truck Sat said it was Ok i.e no weight limits so off we go. Ends up going through a weight limit with access only. If I get fined then so be it, I will of course appeal, but as far as I’m concerned it’s the better option to go through a weight limit than fall into the trap of darting off down roads when you haven’t got a clue where you’re going.

That is pretty much what happen in my case, I was driving to ‘Park Royal’ when the Sat Nav [zb] it’s pants and decided that the North Circular was closed (I don’t think it was) it then started to re-route me and then warn me that there was unavoidable weight restrictions en route, I drove around aimlessly for a while looking for a non restricted route but didn’t find one nor could I find anywhere to pull over to consult the map, didn’t think I had much option but to follow the Sat Nav and hope for the best.

Is there a route to Park Royal that doesn’t involve going through a weight limited area if the North Circular is closed?

I had a drop in Willesden today. Got there with no problems, but to get back to the north circular on the 404 the bloody truck Nav said turn right but it was buses only, so had to wing it. After a few automatic re-calculations telling me to turn around (yeh okay), with me blindly ploughing on and hoping for the best it finally rerouted onto the A40 much to my relief. When I’m in this kinda situation I just go for any main road - not bothered about the direction. Sod trying to find a direct route if it involves side streets.

chaversdad:
I accidentally went through the lez in a euro 3 truck last year , waited weeks for the fine and had all my excuses ready but i never heard anything

Is it a 56 reg by any chance? Smiths have 3, 2 of them weren’t registered until after Oct 06 so despite being Euro 3, they can actually go into London. Or they did in 2012 when I worked there. The other 56 was registered in the last week of Sept and that couldn’t do London.

Dazzler:

weeto:

Dazzler:

weeto:
The driver only gets fined if they have got a crap boss.
And they mainly target areas with insufficient road signs, like roads that don’t have the sign at the start of the restriction, got caught out on the A21 a couple of years ago, there is a pre warning sign about half a mile from the roundabout which can easily be missed, but no signs as you come off the roundabout onto the A21.

What does ‘having a crap boss’ to do with it.

My drivers are told what route to take and have each got a Pie Guide in the cab which shows all the correct routes.

If they choose to ignore it it and get fined it is down to them.

Plus, when a vehicle breaks a ban and gets caught, the company is sent a letter requiring them to provide the drivers details.

[zb]

Thats all well and good if the owner supplies info on the ban, and proper road signs are in use.
When a fine does come in, there is nothing stopping the truck owner putting their name on as the driver = no driver fine, as in an owner driver who breaches the restrictions won’t receive both fines.

I can assure you that an owner driver will receive 2 x fines. I as the driver / 1 as the operator, I know as I speak from experience.

The ban has been in force since around 1985 so is not new. Maps are available to buy and to download free.

It is a traffic regulation that as a professional driver is your responsibility to adhere to just as with any weight, length, width or height restriction.

Ignore the sign, pay the fine. Simple

Well I must of been lucky then, as I didn’t get a fine only the company.
And have known about the restrictions for a while, but there was no signs on that particular road as you come off the roundabout, so assumed the restriction started further down the road, but it didn’t it started at the roundabout, which is no excuse according to them, which is like getting done for going down a one way street the wrong way but you didn’t pass any no entry signs! As said they bend the rules to make money by trapping drivers, because there is no requirement to put signs up on every route.