No o/s i will shut up lol
hi chris,
that turbo beaver (I am now fairly sure it’s a two pedal) worked on steel out of ebbw vale steelworks for many years,i remember seeing it shunting there in the late 80’s early 90’s.morgans are still running one motor,a daf i think? working on brick and block.the cwm they were or still are ? based in is a fair way from the llantrisant cwm,morgan’s cwm is near ebbw vale in gwent,confusing isn’t it 
regards andrew.
pete 359:
hi chris,
that turbo beaver (I am now fairly sure it’s a two pedal) worked on steel out of ebbw vale steelworks for many years,i remember seeing it shunting there in the late 80’s early 90’s.morgans are still running one motor,a daf i think? working on brick and block.the cwm they were or still are ? based in is a fair way from the llantrisant cwm,morgan’s cwm is near ebbw vale in gwent,confusing isn’t it
regards andrew.
It certainly is confusing Andrew and I had a feeling I was wrong about Morgan’s location. 
Chris Webb:
pete 359:
hi chris,
that turbo beaver (I am now fairly sure it’s a two pedal) worked on steel out of ebbw vale steelworks for many years,i remember seeing it shunting there in the late 80’s early 90’s.morgans are still running one motor,a daf i think? working on brick and block.the cwm they were or still are ? based in is a fair way from the llantrisant cwm,morgan’s cwm is near ebbw vale in gwent,confusing isn’t it
regards andrew.
It certainly is confusing Andrew and I had a feeling I was wrong about Morgan’s location.
Don’t think there were enough pedals on this motor for you Chris !! Anon1.
LB76:
I always thought that the turbo beaver had an air filter just behind the cab n/s ?
The idea of putting the air cleaner behind was a good one ,on the mandator there were two oil filled air cleanerson top of the engine and they took up a lot of room the v8 had it,s air cleaner behind the cab and so did the latter leylands fit with the high dateum cab and the L12 or the TL11 thus lowering the engine hump in the cab, what a good idea.My scammell handyman has the 680 in it with the oil filled air cleaners on top of the engine but the cab sits higher on the chassis than the AEC ,i always said the cabs should have been fit higher up on the AEC.
Has anyone come across the two pedel “Buffalo”, SCG splitter gear box 510 turbo headless wonder? those badboys were fast not many could live with them away from the traffic lights even when loaded, GLC Waldo Rd Bromley had some as rubbish bulkers along with Routeman 8 wheelers,I also remember Graham Adams of New Malden had a “two pedal” Beaver with a lowloader behind it!
Just another case of “what could have been” for British industry!
splitshift:
Has anyone come across the two pedel “Buffalo”, SCG splitter gear box 510 turbo headless wonder? those badboys were fast not many could live with them away from the traffic lights even when loaded, GLC Waldo Rd Bromley had some as rubbish bulkers along with Routeman 8 wheelers,I also remember Graham Adams of New Malden had a “two pedal” Beaver with a lowloader behind it!
Yes, my boss claimed he had one, but I thought he was getting a bit confused in his old age and had got mixed up with the Beaver and Buffalo models, so it seems I owe him an apology. 
Carr’s Flour Mills early model ‘Two-Pedlar’
Would the two pedal idea be a British invention on heavy commercial vehicles as I know that Scammell had two pedal Constructors and Super Constructors in the late 50s and I think this would before they were used in buses.
cheers Johnnie
sammyopisite:
Would the two pedal idea be a British invention on heavy commercial vehicles as I know that Scammell had two pedal Constructors and Super Constructors in the late 50s and I think this would before they were used in buses.
cheers Johnnie
Leyland started using a pneumo cyclic box in the early 50s on buses, due to wanting to mount a transverse engine in the rear. Trying to marry up gear linkages for a manual box in that configuration wouldve been nigh on impossible Id imagine.
I used to rebuild the boxes back in the early `80s, they were a pretty good bit of kit with regular oil changes and adjustments. The only failures we had were down to driver error/poor training unfortunately, the box needed a one second gap in neutral when changing gear so that no two brake bands were engaged at once, and careful timing when changing down. We had far too many bus drivers slamming the box down a gear when they were travelling too fast, resulting in the gearbox innards breaking up. 
Hi Rob63, I did drive a pneumo cyclic box on the buses but when I went on Pickfords they had a self changing gears box which was almost the same as the first EPS Mercedes box only it was column change on the Constructors and then mounted like the Mercs on the Contractors. The ones on the Constructors were 8 speed and the Contrctors had a splitter giving 16 speeds but they were used identically as the Merc box but no clutch pedal, one neutral position then just keep pushing the leaver forward and pulling it back for changing down and press the top of the lever from neutral to engage reverse but about 30 years before Mercedes came out.
cheers Johnnie
Hi Johnnie,
I can`t find any information on the Scammell boxes on the net, it would be interesting to see a picture of one to see if they shared any commonality with the Leyland pneumo cyclic ones. If they did I suspect that the casing would have to be longer to fit in the extra gears, as the 4 speed ones fitted to the Leyland 600 engines were a smaller casing compared to the 5 speeds on the 680.
Seems they were SCG RV30 type.Some conflicting info when you put that into Google,but apparently they were not highly regarded by the Aussie military anyway.
I cannot recall us having any problems with the SCG box the constructor only had a Leyland 680 which would only have been around 200 bph and the super constructor had the Albion engine in which did have problems ( pores liners ) and they only did a bout 28 mph and 34 mph being geared down.
The contractors were powered by ■■■■■■■ engines at 250 bhp for the junior up to 125 tons and 380 for the big one but they would do around 46 mph and they would pull the rated 125 tons and 240 tons and I can’t recall many problems with the contractor.
I don’t have any pictures of the gear stick in cab shot or gear box but I have seen a picture of them and if I can find them I will post a link.
cheers Johnnie