One word for this Farcical
Tgtrucker:
The government announcement warned to be ready for queues in Kent of 7000 trucks and tried to shift responsibility of this onto the hauliers.
And that’s with an “oven ready” brexit deal!
God forbid what would have happened if our government were a disorganised shambles! Oh wait
You should know by now that it’s utterly pointless to criticise this Government. They have an 80 seat majority and are intent on hanging around for the duration.
The fact that they’re shambolic is neither here nor there, they’ve got the votes and support to get away with anything they want. They might ditch Boris if a sacrifice is needed, but there won’t be a change of direction.
Christ knows what state the country will be in this time next year, but you can be sure that the clowns making the policy will have suffered and sacrificed not one bit.
I know it’s exceptional (pandemic) times for our and everyone else’s economy, but seriously, we have to trust this mob to steer us through Covid and Brexit?
Yes, I know, Corbyn wouldn’t have inspired confidence either. The Labour Party have a lot to answer for in not putting up any credible opposition last year.
the maoster:
Tonyj105 raised an interesting point above, are ALL vehicles Kent bound going to need a permit or merely the ones bound for the ferry/tunnel? We do lots of deliveries around Kent and there’s nothing different looking about our fridge artics to any other fridge artics mainland Europe bound.
How difficult can it be to make it Kent Channel Terminals Access Permit.
Which is part of the ferry or shuttle ticket booking.Wrong destination or point of origin of the freight journey in UK then no ticket.Rebook via Plymouth, Portsmouth, Hull etc.
Let me guess Kent wants to turn it into a pretext for a ‘Congestion Charge’ for everyone.
Darkside:
Hats off to all the Brexit voters who knew exactly what they were voting for, they kept a new border in Kent quiet.The Goverment have 3 months to build
a 380 mile border in Kent
a mechanism to police it
an internal passport system
a software service
admin and complaints procedure for 2.6 million lorries a year.It had 6 months to figure out average A level results and look how that worked out…
So Kent has the only ferry links to Europe in the country.The remainers couldn’t make it up.We’re going back to 1972 deal with it.It was fine.
Carryfast:
Darkside:
Hats off to all the Brexit voters who knew exactly what they were voting for, they kept a new border in Kent quiet.The Goverment have 3 months to build
a 380 mile border in Kent
a mechanism to police it
an internal passport system
a software service
admin and complaints procedure for 2.6 million lorries a year.It had 6 months to figure out average A level results and look how that worked out…
So Kent has the only ferry links to Europe in the country.The remainers couldn’t make it up.We’re going back to 1972 deal with it.It was fine.
1972? How many trucks through Dover?
1985 there were 730,000.
2019… … 2,397,000
Tunnel…1,600,000
.
Stick it to the filthy French in return for their ‘assistance’ with illegals and rubber boats. Close ‘Le Shuttle’ to freight and only accept unaccompanied freight through Dover.
cav551:
Stick it to the filthy French in return for their ‘assistance’ with illegals and rubber boats. Close ‘Le Shuttle’ to freight and only accept unaccompanied freight through Dover.
Classic!
cav551:
Stick it to the filthy French in return for their ‘assistance’ with illegals and rubber boats. Close ‘Le Shuttle’ to freight and only accept unaccompanied freight through Dover.
Mark Francois has used his time under house arrest wisely, and opened a TNUK account 
It would be nice to hear, on TNUK, some anonymous expert opinions, other than drivers, on what would be needed to make this proposed system work smoothly. e.g.Police, HMRC, Tunnel employees, IT systems designers etc.
Rescind article 50…
Darkside:
cav551:
Stick it to the filthy French in return for their ‘assistance’ with illegals and rubber boats. Close ‘Le Shuttle’ to freight and only accept unaccompanied freight through Dover.Mark Francois has used his time under house arrest wisely, and opened a TNUK account [emoji38]
While building model Spitfires and Lancasters.
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Franglais:
Carryfast:
So Kent has the only ferry links to Europe in the country.The remainers couldn’t make it up.We’re going back to 1972 deal with it.It was fine.1972? How many trucks through Dover?
1985 there were 730,000.
2019… … 2,397,000
Tunnel…1,600,000
.
That’s the problem.Kent is getting fed up with loads originating from/destined for the North or West of the country using the Kent terminals to cross the Channel.
As opposed to disincentivising the disporoportionate and environmentally damaging unecessary use of Kent for freight journeys which could/should use other more suitable terminals and crossing points closer to the collection or delivery point.
You know like Hull, Harwich, Southampton, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Newhaven just like 1972.
WTF has that got to do with Brexit.
OwenMoney:
Rescind article 50…
Remove off topic posts.
Optimum:
It would be nice to hear, on TNUK, some anonymous expert opinions, other than drivers, on what would be needed to make this proposed system work smoothly. e.g.Police, HMRC, Tunnel employees, IT systems designers etc.
Hence - Rescind Article 50 - Problem solved right there in one free easy Parlimentary U Turn .
OwenMoney:
Hence - Rescind Article 50 - Problem solved right there in one free easy Parlimentary U Turn .
Steady now. This Government doesn’t do U-Turns.
I’m sure everything will work out just fine.
Carryfast:
Franglais:
Carryfast:
So Kent has the only ferry links to Europe in the country.The remainers couldn’t make it up.We’re going back to 1972 deal with it.It was fine.1972? How many trucks through Dover?
1985 there were 730,000.
2019… … 2,397,000
Tunnel…1,600,000
.That’s the problem.Kent is getting fed up with loads originating from/destined for the North or West of the country using the Kent terminals to cross the Channel.
As opposed to disincentivising the disporoportionate and environmentally damaging unecessary use of Kent for freight journeys which could/should use other more suitable terminals and crossing points closer to the collection or delivery point.
You know like Hull, Harwich, Southampton, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Newhaven just like 1972.
WTF has that got to do with Brexit.
In the real world, where some of us live, companies operate on a JIT basis.
Lorries move faster than ferries, so road is preferable to sea…
Carryfast:
Franglais:
Carryfast:
So Kent has the only ferry links to Europe in the country.The remainers couldn’t make it up.We’re going back to 1972 deal with it.It was fine.1972? How many trucks through Dover?
1985 there were 730,000.
2019… … 2,397,000
Tunnel…1,600,000
.That’s the problem.Kent is getting fed up with loads originating from/destined for the North or West of the country using the Kent terminals to cross the Channel.
As opposed to disincentivising the disporoportionate and environmentally damaging unecessary use of Kent for freight journeys which could/should use other more suitable terminals and crossing points closer to the collection or delivery point.
You know like Hull, Harwich, Southampton, Portsmouth, Plymouth, Newhaven just like 1972.
WTF has that got to do with Brexit.
Anyone calling CarryFast a “little Englander” is clearly selling him short.
I’ve heard of independence for Wales, Scotland, and even Cornwall and the IoW, but an independent Kent? Yes, passports for lorries must be only the start of it.
And
WTF has that got to do with Brexit.
Err, Article 50 and Brexit, of course, nothing at all. 
Some of the infrastructure for this system is already in place, and has been for almost a year. For anyone who has been onto North Weald Airfield just off the M11 at J7, there has been one of the first holding areas for many months, manned, lit up like Heathrow airport with 24 hour security, offices, drivers toilets, and pre marked parking area.
It was being put into place just before the then brexit deadline back at the end of 2018, as we used to do a weekly run to Switzerland we were told that in the future our vehicle would have to check in there first before heading into Kent. This was ages ago so none of this is news, it is just that as the real deadline looms ever closer these places, of which there are apparently 6 others around the greater M25 area, will come into force.