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@Beaunydel Turbo was a professional con-artist and d ickhead, who ended up in prison. He was never a professional truck driver.
Hmmm, what are you saying? :thinking:

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There’s also no way that you’re going to get 40 pallets and up to 86t gross with one semi trailer.
So call it 500 kms max regardless bearing in mind the battery weight and space capacity of a tractor unit.That range only gets more marginal in cold dark wet weather conditions and mountainous terrain.
Remind me what was that normally accepted fuel tank capacity and range between refuels there or for that matter NZ or Sweden/Euroland.10t battery capacity is a reasonable conclusion and a tractor unit ain’t going to carry that and a semi trailer dropped on its back.

That comprehension problem of yours is rearing its ugly head again. The “within 30 metres” would have been a clue for a knowledgeable and experienced transport man, it’s two 40’ trailers, if there was ever a doubt, the 40 pallets would have been a giveaway.

Yeah righto, it won’t work. Quick tell Linfox, who ran the trial and just ordered 26 more e-trucks. Really Carryfast, you’d argue black was white, in a vain attempt to try and look smart (pun intended).

Are you really that slow learning? I’ve told you before, go and look it up.

How about you answer a question. I’ve asked twice previously, but you sidestepped the question. How many trucks with a horsepower greater than 300hp have yo driven?

Let’s get this right you’re making the case for a doubles outfit that can’t get more than 300 miles up the road without needing a battery pack change.You conveniently left out how much payload ‘weight’ capacity on those ‘pallets’ to stay within the legal and design weight capacity of the tractor unit in addition to the obviously compromised battery capacity.
Why not answer the question what’s the usually accepted and expected fuel capacity of those outfits or even Euroland types.Lets just say that it’s generally more than 75 gallons.
Bearing in mind that a 6 or 8 wheeler rigid can just as easily pull a doubles outfit along an Oz highway as a tractor unit and generally did which is why you still call tractor units prime movers.
Over 300 hp in my case would have been around half of all those I drove and others as close as makes no difference.Probably more than a dozen within a couple of weeks of getting my licence.Including some with over double that figure when many Brit drivers would have aspired to drive 200 hp let alone 300 + even the mightly big cam 290 was closer to 250 than the claimed ‘290’.
Your point being what in that regard EV road locomotive with 10t + battery capacity v tractor unit with 4t worth max on a good day with a light trailer.

Yet another generalisation: it was 275.3 in the C-series ERF and in the Mk Transcon you could either have installed as 240 or 270, to taste. There will, of course, be other figures from other manufacturers depending on installation.

Don’t count the fire trucks you moved from the end of the production line to the storage park and the number will start with a zer.

You seem to be contradicting yourself there, while admitting the most powerful (real) truck you drove was a Cummins 250 with a 290 badge.
All the 14 litre cummins could be set for whatever horsepower was desired, within reason.
250, 270, 290, 300, 320, 335 (small cam only), 350, 365, 400, 444, 450, 500 culminating in 525.

Where did you get 10 t from? Just plucked it out of the air?

Air 
at what pressure?

Or from a vacuum 
created by the movement of high pressure gas
?

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Like I said, you have no idea how transport works here. Never has a ridgid pulled two forty foot trailers on the Hume.
How are you going to fit two forty foot trailers, two converter dollies and a six or eight wheeled ridgid in thirty metres?

The writing is on the wall for the artic configuration and EU and UK dimensions and weight limits if they are serious about EV trucks.

Fair enough Ro but surprisingly considerably under SDUs 300 hp threshold which was the point.
But what actually was the relevance of his question ??.

It’s done in the same way as putting a 45 foot trailer behind a 6 wheeler rigid would be done here in Euroland.Couple it all up then measure it 
then change the overall length rules to match the result.
That wasn’t so difficult was it.

I don’t remember any Australian colleagues between collecting the trade plates and over width marker boards from the office and setting off from the factory at Feltham for a day of fun testing at MVEE Chobham.To make sure that the 635 hp wagon met it’s specifications.Then they paid me for it.
So exactly what makes you think you know anything about that job and my working day there ?.
Although to be fair the most difficult part of that job was actually navigating it out of its confined factory space and reversing it back in after.

Funnily enough, I prefer plenty of torque in the right places rather than lots of power. I know this is a bit off-piste, but some of the most powerful lorries I’ve driven had auto-boxes from hell, which rather the spoilt the fun. I drove Stralis 430s with AS-tronic bollox, I drove a Merc SK500 on long haul, including mountains, which was completely spoiled by that crappy EPS (Extra Perception, Sensory - you ■■■■■■■ needed it! :rofl:). To save the day, I also drove a Scanny 143:450 which had the old 5-over-5 10-sp synchro in it - superb! But give me a 350 Cummins and a nine-speed Fuller ANY day. Good job I’m retired, innit! :joy:

To be fair almost 1,800 lbs/ft at 1,200 rpm wasn’t to be sniffed at.Putting the Allison semi auto into gear from neutral even at idle with no clutch control to dampen the take up was like a bomb going off through the drive line.
My guess would be like sidestepping the clutch drag racing style, of a 290 running at peak torque rpm.

By your own admission, you became a test driver the day after you got your licence.
Knowing how you exaggerate your qualifications and experience, I say you got carried away with the term, test driver.

I think I get why SDU ain’t happy.Ironically his topic actually contains the proof of why the EV road locomotive pulling a drawbar trailer will ultimately win out as being the best formula.Might even have some scope to also put some payload on it.
He’s probably right now telling his MP to stay with the ICE powered artic just to spite me.Meanwhile Sweden and NZ are laughing.The drawbar outfit is the future.

The problem is you don’t think. I’m perfectly happy, or as happy as an old bloke can be.
As usual you are carelessly throwing about imaginary comment as baseless fact. If this topic is proof of anything, it is that you, as a failed (to compete) apprentice and one time lorry driver, believe you are better placed than highly qualified (completed university degree) specialist transport engineers and extremely experienced transport company management in the selection of truck combinations and specifications.
Without doubt every combination has a use. Some in small niché areas, some mainstream and versatile. Nothing is as versatile as a prime mover and semi-trailer(s).
I avoid politicians, like the plague, so I’m not lobbying for anything. I have no, nor anticipate gaining any experience driving electric trucks. I have no ideological preference for ICE or EV, large or small, however you, Carryfast, seem to have made an about turn on your anti-EV stance.

Even by your loopy standards, that is a doozy.
That might work in your crazy world but the rest of us have to work within the legislated framework. We may lobby for change, with mixed results, but still have to comply with current rules.
It’s no wonder you couldn’t get a proper job in the last 30 odd years.

Almost word for word what ‘Zb Anorak’ was telling him on here nearly a decade ago, along with other properly qualified and experienced engineers. It beggars belief that the infestation of TN threads with this nonsense persists.

Every circus needs a clown.
It’s a shame that he has such a repulsive, know it all attitude. We could have some interesting discussions.
It’s no point us discussing it, we’re in agreeance, 350 Cummins with a RoadRanger RTO 13. Although with three vans I wasn’t complaing about the N14+ 525 and RTO 18.
Truth be told, I was not disappointed by any of 15 litre Cats at 550hp that I had.

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