Franglais:
Sorry error
Don’t apologise, I actually enjoyed it immensely 
Harry Monk:
I don’t claim to be an expert but my idle musings are as follows.Two hundred years ago there weren’t even railway engines. The world population was about a billion, and this population generally lived in unlit, unheated homes which were little more than shacks. Now there are 1.4 billion cars, the world population is 8 billion and many of this population live in heated and well-lit homes.
The energy required to sustain this comes largely from oil and it stands to reason that we must be depleting reserves far faster than new reserves are being formed. So we are living off of the planet’s resources rather than its harvest. This cannot be indefinitely sustainable.
If we don’t address this, it is inevitable that Mother Nature will at some point and it is likely that any action she takes will be unpleasant from a human perspective.
The northern and southern latitudes couldn’t even have sustained human existence without heat in the form of at least burning wood from cave dweller days.
So what do these useful idiots do.Lets move as much of the overpopulation problem of the warmer latitudes to those colder ones.
Mother nature obviously prefers us to burn dead trees in the form of fossil fuel, than living ones in the form of logs in medieval times.Let alone biomass now.
While nuclear isn’t exactly life friendly except for possibly cockroaches that can supposedly withstand serious radiation exposure.
Which leaves the laughable oxymoron of replacing the virtually proven NON greenhouse CO2 emissions of fossil fuel combustion with the unarguably massive greenhouse emissions of a superheated steam based energy policy.
Unless you believe that Mars is actually warmer than Earth.
However you obviously have the luxury of not needing to heat a proper home at 50p per kWh in the all electric utopia regardless.
All so that our fossil fuel resources can be ‘edistributed’ to meet the aims of the far left and to sustain the cheap labour sweatshop economies.
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
I don’t claim to be an expert but my idle musings are as follows.Two hundred years ago there weren’t even railway engines. The world population was about a billion, and this population generally lived in unlit, unheated homes which were little more than shacks. Now there are 1.4 billion cars, the world population is 8 billion and many of this population live in heated and well-lit homes.
The energy required to sustain this comes largely from oil and it stands to reason that we must be depleting reserves far faster than new reserves are being formed. So we are living off of the planet’s resources rather than its harvest. This cannot be indefinitely sustainable.
If we don’t address this, it is inevitable that Mother Nature will at some point and it is likely that any action she takes will be unpleasant from a human perspective.
The northern and southern latitudes couldn’t even have sustained human existence without heat in the form of at least burning wood from cave dweller days.
So what do these useful idiots do.Lets move as much of the overpopulation problem of the warmer latitudes to those colder ones.Mother nature obviously prefers us to burn dead trees in the form of fossil fuel, than living ones in the form of logs in medieval times.Let alone biomass now.
While nuclear isn’t exactly life friendly except for possibly cockroaches that can supposedly withstand serious radiation exposure.
Which leaves the laughable oxymoron of replacing the virtually proven NON greenhouse CO2 emissions of fossil fuel combustion with the unarguably massive greenhouse emissions of a superheated steam based energy policy.
Unless you believe that Mars is actually warmer than Earth.
However you obviously have the luxury of not needing to heat a proper home at 50p per kWh in the all electric utopia regardless.
All so that our fossil fuel resources can be ‘edistributed’ to meet the aims of the far left and to sustain the cheap labour sweatshop economies.
Your posts while always nonsense did at least used to be conherent. Nowadays your posts are getting ever more confused as you try and cram in every one of your daft opinions to every comment. Less is more chap. Tho I know I’m ■■■■■■■ in the wind saying that to you.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
I don’t claim to be an expert but my idle musings are as follows.Two hundred years ago there weren’t even railway engines. The world population was about a billion, and this population generally lived in unlit, unheated homes which were little more than shacks. Now there are 1.4 billion cars, the world population is 8 billion and many of this population live in heated and well-lit homes.
The energy required to sustain this comes largely from oil and it stands to reason that we must be depleting reserves far faster than new reserves are being formed. So we are living off of the planet’s resources rather than its harvest. This cannot be indefinitely sustainable.
If we don’t address this, it is inevitable that Mother Nature will at some point and it is likely that any action she takes will be unpleasant from a human perspective.
The northern and southern latitudes couldn’t even have sustained human existence without heat in the form of at least burning wood from cave dweller days.
So what do these useful idiots do.Lets move as much of the overpopulation problem of the warmer latitudes to those colder ones.Mother nature obviously prefers us to burn dead trees in the form of fossil fuel, than living ones in the form of logs in medieval times.Let alone biomass now.
While nuclear isn’t exactly life friendly except for possibly cockroaches that can supposedly withstand serious radiation exposure.
Which leaves the laughable oxymoron of replacing the virtually proven NON greenhouse CO2 emissions of fossil fuel combustion with the unarguably massive greenhouse emissions of a superheated steam based energy policy.
Unless you believe that Mars is actually warmer than Earth.
However you obviously have the luxury of not needing to heat a proper home at 50p per kWh in the all electric utopia regardless.
All so that our fossil fuel resources can be ‘edistributed’ to meet the aims of the far left and to sustain the cheap labour sweatshop economies.Your posts while always nonsense did at least used to be conherent. Nowadays your posts are getting ever more confused as you try and cram in every one of your daft opinions to every comment. Less is more chap. Tho I know I’m ■■■■■■■ in the wind saying that to you.
There is absolutely nothing incoherent about that reply to Harry’s post.No surprise that you’d view anything which doesn’t fit your climate scam narrative and rhetoric as unwanted ‘opinion’ which should be stopped.
I’m still waiting for an answer to the question of the cost of your supposed all electric energy bill.
Much of which would be made up of anything but green biomass and nuclear generation.
Even if it’s even true that you’re using electric to heat a home which I doubt unless you have issues with the understanding of basic maths and the economics of running a household.
When most people are rightly moaning about the price of gas at 10p per kWh.
Although Harry obviously only needs to heat the space of a narrow boat.
But still seems to use coal as part of his domestic fuel regime combined with diesel as it suits him, while telling us that such use is an unsustainable burden on the planet.
He couldn’t make it up.
I have just skim read 4 pages of this post whilst on break and I am confused as to why Venus being hot and mars being cold keeps coming up and why this means co2 can’t be a green house gas. I think you may have become confused between the composition and the density of the atmosphere of these planets. Very simply, Venus has a very thick, dense atmosphere with lots of co2 (among other things) in it. This acts like a giant blanket around the planet which make it hot. Mars has a very thin atmosphere made up almost entirely of co2. Whilst yes it is the same gas, the atmosphere is very thin and thus cannot trap very much heat which mans it is cold. Think of it like having a very thin sheet on your bed versus a really thick quilt cover. They might be both made from cotton but one will keep you warm on those cold winter nights and one won’t.
Harry Monk:
I don’t claim to be an expert but my idle musings are as follows.Two hundred years ago there weren’t even railway engines. The world population was about a billion, and this population generally lived in unlit, unheated homes which were little more than shacks. Now there are 1.4 billion cars, the world population is 8 billion and many of this population live in heated and well-lit homes.
The energy required to sustain this comes largely from oil and it stands to reason that we must be depleting reserves far faster than new reserves are being formed. So we are living off of the planet’s resources rather than its harvest. This cannot be indefinitely sustainable.
If we don’t address this, it is inevitable that Mother Nature will at some point and it is likely that any action she takes will be unpleasant from a human perspective.
I agree. Elon Musk knows this and is trying to accelerate the switch to sustainable energy as we speak.
The Saudi’s are currently building a $3 trillion dollar fully sustainable energy city (Neom City), even they know that they do not have an infinite amount of oil reserves on this planet and that they need to be less dependent on their oil.
Blackadda1:
I have just skim read 4 pages of this post whilst on break and I am confused as to why Venus being hot and mars being cold keeps coming up and why this means co2 can’t be a green house gas. I think you may have become confused between the composition and the density of the atmosphere of these planets. Very simply, Venus has a very thick, dense atmosphere with lots of co2 (among other things) in it. This acts like a giant blanket around the planet which make it hot. Mars has a very thin atmosphere made up almost entirely of co2. Whilst yes it is the same gas, the atmosphere is very thin and thus cannot trap very much heat which mans it is cold. Think of it like having a very thin sheet on your bed versus a really thick quilt cover. They might be both made from cotton but one will keep you warm on those cold winter nights and one won’t.
Yep, but he has already had this explained to him.
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Franglais:
Blackadda1:
I have just skim read 4 pages of this post whilst on break and I am confused as to why Venus being hot and mars being cold keeps coming up and why this means co2 can’t be a green house gas. I think you may have become confused between the composition and the density of the atmosphere of these planets. Very simply, Venus has a very thick, dense atmosphere with lots of co2 (among other things) in it. This acts like a giant blanket around the planet which make it hot. Mars has a very thin atmosphere made up almost entirely of co2. Whilst yes it is the same gas, the atmosphere is very thin and thus cannot trap very much heat which mans it is cold. Think of it like having a very thin sheet on your bed versus a really thick quilt cover. They might be both made from cotton but one will keep you warm on those cold winter nights and one won’t.Yep, but he has already had this explained to him.
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My apologies. I missed that while skimming through the posts.
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Harry Monk:
I don’t claim to be an expert but my idle musings are as follows.Two hundred years ago there weren’t even railway engines. The world population was about a billion, and this population generally lived in unlit, unheated homes which were little more than shacks. Now there are 1.4 billion cars, the world population is 8 billion and many of this population live in heated and well-lit homes.
The energy required to sustain this comes largely from oil and it stands to reason that we must be depleting reserves far faster than new reserves are being formed. So we are living off of the planet’s resources rather than its harvest. This cannot be indefinitely sustainable.
If we don’t address this, it is inevitable that Mother Nature will at some point and it is likely that any action she takes will be unpleasant from a human perspective.
The northern and southern latitudes couldn’t even have sustained human existence without heat in the form of at least burning wood from cave dweller days.
So what do these useful idiots do.Lets move as much of the overpopulation problem of the warmer latitudes to those colder ones.Mother nature obviously prefers us to burn dead trees in the form of fossil fuel, than living ones in the form of logs in medieval times.Let alone biomass now.
While nuclear isn’t exactly life friendly except for possibly cockroaches that can supposedly withstand serious radiation exposure.
Which leaves the laughable oxymoron of replacing the virtually proven NON greenhouse CO2 emissions of fossil fuel combustion with the unarguably massive greenhouse emissions of a superheated steam based energy policy.
Unless you believe that Mars is actually warmer than Earth.
However you obviously have the luxury of not needing to heat a proper home at 50p per kWh in the all electric utopia regardless.
All so that our fossil fuel resources can be ‘edistributed’ to meet the aims of the far left and to sustain the cheap labour sweatshop economies.Your posts while always nonsense did at least used to be conherent. Nowadays your posts are getting ever more confused as you try and cram in every one of your daft opinions to every comment. Less is more chap. Tho I know I’m ■■■■■■■ in the wind saying that to you.
There is absolutely nothing incoherent about that reply to Harry’s post.No surprise that you’d view anything which doesn’t fit your climate scam narrative and rhetoric as unwanted ‘opinion’ which should be stopped.
I’m still waiting for an answer to the question of the cost of your supposed all electric energy bill.
Much of which would be made up of anything but green biomass and nuclear generation.
Even if it’s even true that you’re using electric to heat a home which I doubt unless you have issues with the understanding of basic maths and the economics of running a household.
When most people are rightly moaning about the price of gas at 10p per kWh.
Although Harry obviously only needs to heat the space of a narrow boat.
But still seems to use coal as part of his domestic fuel regime combined with diesel as it suits him, while telling us that such use is an unsustainable burden on the planet.
He couldn’t make it up.
I’ve got a full house on Carryfast bulls~~t bingo! What do I win?!
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So tell us are you relying on an all electric domestic fuel regimeYes
Good luck with that at 33p per kWh 50p per kWh after April v 10p per kWh and 17p per kWh respectively for gas.
So how much did you pay for last month’s electric usage in heating alone let alone cooking and hot water.
I didn’t answer because I didn’t see it. Seems I gave the incorrect answers for you. Better luck next time. I’m not going to discuss my personal finances on a public forum. Unless you want to join me. How much are your bills Carry old fruit? I bet you live in a ridiculously large house for a perpetually always lonely single man. You strike me as sort if man who refuses to downsize as you think it’s your right to live in a family home 4 times the size of what’s required. I live in a tiny house which I love and makes sense for someone who’s also single, tho unlike you through choice. Email me if you’re desperate to know luke@lorry-driver.com )
Blackadda1:
I have just skim read 4 pages of this post whilst on break and I am confused as to why Venus being hot and mars being cold keeps coming up and why this means co2 can’t be a green house gas. I think you may have become confused between the composition and the density of the atmosphere of these planets. Very simply, Venus has a very thick, dense atmosphere with lots of co2 (among other things) in it. This acts like a giant blanket around the planet which make it hot. Mars has a very thin atmosphere made up almost entirely of co2. Whilst yes it is the same gas, the atmosphere is very thin and thus cannot trap very much heat which mans it is cold. Think of it like having a very thin sheet on your bed versus a really thick quilt cover. They might be both made from cotton but one will keep you warm on those cold winter nights and one won’t.
So you agree that it’s all about atmospheric density ( pressure ) just like on Earth.
Do the maths re the difference in Mars atmospheric pressure v that of Earth’s.
Then the difference in the CO2 component of the respective atmospheres.
It’s obvious that Mars’ difference in its level of CO2 way exceeds its difference in atmospheric density v Earth by a factor of thousands.
Which makes CO2 a greenhouse gas how ?.
The truth is Earth’s temperature would be similar to both Venus’ and Mars’ respectively given the respective equivalent atmospheric pressures.Regardless of the respective CO2 component.
Blackadda1:
My apologies. I missed that while skimming through the posts.
No need for apologies!
The replies to CF posts are varied and often include different angles of view.
Franglais:
Blackadda1:
My apologies. I missed that while skimming through the posts.No need for apologies!
The replies to CF posts are varied and often include different angles of view.
You mean an angle of view that says it woz the CO2 that cooked Venus but low atmospheric pressure that conveniently froze Mars.
Bearing in mind that the average temperature of Mars is a lot lower than the equivalent pressure on Earth at around 100,000 feet.
All that extra CO2 on Mars doesn’t seem to be acting as much of a greenhouse.
Franglais:
Blackadda1:
My apologies. I missed that while skimming through the posts.No need for apologies!
The replies to CF posts are varied and often include different angles of view.
“Browsing through my old vinyl collection, I suddenly realise where I’ve encountered Carryfast before…”
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
So tell us are you relying on an all electric domestic fuel regimeYes
Good luck with that at 33p per kWh 50p per kWh after April v 10p per kWh and 17p per kWh respectively for gas.
So how much did you pay for last month’s electric usage in heating alone let alone cooking and hot water.I didn’t answer because I didn’t see it. Seems I gave the incorrect answers for you. Better luck next time. I’m not going to discuss my personal finances on a public forum. Unless you want to join me. How much are your bills Carry old fruit? I bet you live in a ridiculously large house for a perpetually always lonely single man. You strike me as sort if man who refuses to downsize as you think it’s your right to live in a family home 4 times the size of what’s required. I live in a tiny house which I love and makes sense for someone who’s also single, tho unlike you through choice. Email me if you’re desperate to know luke@lorry-driver.com )
A three bed semi isn’t exactly a mansion.I also love it.
I’ll now await Harry to tell us that he’s going to move into a one room apartment.
So that he can switch to all that clean green nuke, biomass and solar fuelled mains electric at 50p per kWh that, like you, he wants to impose on us all.
Good luck with that.
Carryfast:
I’ll now await Harry to tell us that he’s going to move into a one room apartment.
Do one-room apartments float? No then.
Simple fact is that I probably have a lower carbon footprint than virtually everybody on this forum, a claim borne out by the fact that I am anticipating my total gross earnings for the 2022-2023 tax year to be £19,100. If you don’t earn much, you don’t consume much.
In terms of fuel consumption, I get through one 25kg bag of coal per week and about 80% of my electricity comes from solar power, and solar power is something which should be promoted over fossil fuel use. I realise that you are generally indifferent about future generations and this is perhaps understandable in one who has spent a lifetime unable to find an opportunity for reproduction.
It’s not just continental driving work where your face didn’t fit. 
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
I’ll now await Harry to tell us that he’s going to move into a one room apartment.Do one-room apartments float? No then.
Simple fact is that I probably have a lower carbon footprint than virtually everybody on this forum, a claim borne out by the fact that I am anticipating my total gross earnings for the 2022-2023 tax year to be £19,100. If you don’t earn much, you don’t consume much.
In terms of fuel consumption, I get through one 25kg bag of coal per week and about 80% of my electricity comes from solar power, and solar power is something which should be promoted over fossil fuel use. I realise that you are generally indifferent about future generations and this is perhaps understandable in one who has spent a lifetime unable to find an opportunity for reproduction.
It’s not just continental driving work where your face didn’t fit.
Excellent post.
Carryfast:
A three bed semi isn’t exactly a mansion.I also love it.
I’ll now await Harry to tell us that he’s going to move into a one room apartment.
So that he can switch to all that clean green nuke, biomass and solar fuelled mains electric at 50p per kWh that, like you, he wants to impose on us all.
Good luck with that.
Still 3 times too big tho. Probably worth a fortune where you are. Have you never thought about moving out into the sticks? Middle of nowhere is sort of ideal with your first class people skills. Out here in Wales you could probably buy a farm for what your house is worth, tho prices are rising.
Carryfast:
Blackadda1:
I have just skim read 4 pages of this post whilst on break and I am confused as to why Venus being hot and mars being cold keeps coming up and why this means co2 can’t be a green house gas. I think you may have become confused between the composition and the density of the atmosphere of these planets. Very simply, Venus has a very thick, dense atmosphere with lots of co2 (among other things) in it. This acts like a giant blanket around the planet which make it hot. Mars has a very thin atmosphere made up almost entirely of co2. Whilst yes it is the same gas, the atmosphere is very thin and thus cannot trap very much heat which mans it is cold. Think of it like having a very thin sheet on your bed versus a really thick quilt cover. They might be both made from cotton but one will keep you warm on those cold winter nights and one won’t.So you agree that it’s all about atmospheric density ( pressure ) just like on Earth.
Do the maths re the difference in Mars atmospheric pressure v that of Earth’s.
Then the difference in the CO2 component of the respective atmospheres.
It’s obvious that Mars’ difference in its level of CO2 way exceeds its difference in atmospheric density v Earth by a factor of thousands.
Which makes CO2 a greenhouse gas how ?.
The truth is Earth’s temperature would be similar to both Venus’ and Mars’ respectively given the respective equivalent atmospheric pressures.Regardless of the respective CO2 component.
You know you’re grasping at straws when you have to use other planets to try and make a point
Harry Monk:
Carryfast:
I’ll now await Harry to tell us that he’s going to move into a one room apartment.Do one-room apartments float? No then.
Simple fact is that I probably have a lower carbon footprint than virtually everybody on this forum, a claim borne out by the fact that I am anticipating my total gross earnings for the 2022-2023 tax year to be £19,100. If you don’t earn much, you don’t consume much.
In terms of fuel consumption, I get through one 25kg bag of coal per week and about 80% of my electricity comes from solar power, and solar power is something which should be promoted over fossil fuel use. I realise that you are generally indifferent about future generations and this is perhaps understandable in one who has spent a lifetime unable to find an opportunity for reproduction.
It’s not just continental driving work where your face didn’t fit.
Or to put it another way do as you say not as you do
If you’re supposedly so bothered about leaving all the fossil fuel in the ground then you’ll obviously want to live up to your ideals by doing whatever it takes to go on grid all electric at 50p per kWh like you’re telling everyone else to do.
I also don’t believe Switch’s claim that he runs an all electric heating regime unless someone else is paying for it.