Not sure what you mean?
As I understand it the hourly pay is the same for any day of the week. No extra for week-ends.
No problems with week-end work in the UK. No extra regs about driving or working generally. Shops are normally open on more restrictive hours though, at the discretion of the local council I think.
There are people that are happy to max their hours every week being given the worst jobs treated like crap for less pay than others. Doesnt make it right the only person to benefit in the end is the company as i said. Less staff needed less trucks less overhead etc. Do you really think the likes of dhl and xpo would try and force this crap on drivers if it wasnt to their benefit. Only the gullable see it as better than working the same hours spread over 5 or 6 days
I was guaranteed x number of hours a week. I never had that i always worked more for 18 months. However they would only work at minimum hours at minimum rate.
However even if you have a regular income that fluctuates (an oxymoron btw) say you earn 200 a day 600 for three days and 800 for 4 days you have comitments of 400pw do you think they will work out your spare income at 400 or in reality it will be 200
Each to their own. Some like having 4 days off in a row, rather than 1 or2.
I am sure they will appreciate your input and opinion.
Here any weekend work attracts penalties. If it’s overtime on a Mon to Fri job, 2hrs @ time x 1.5, the rest double time.
If weekends are part of the normal roster I think Saturdays are 1.25, Sundays 1.5.
Overtime on weekdays is 2hrs @ T x 1.5 with the balance @ T x 2.
Overtime is payable after 7h 38m.
Because you get your life back on 4o4o.
I stopped bothering about friday nights when i was about 20. Time off during the week is often better.
The hourly rate and extra for overtime has been changed over the years here.
When I started it was hourly paid extra for before 05hr00 or after 22hr00. Extra for over 8hrs per day. (Time plus a half)Extra for after 12hr Sat extra for Sun. Double for B-Hols plus paid day off in lieu.
There are currently few laws about it, and the weaker unions have little influence.
Some work is a straight salary. Some a day rate, some a straight hourly rate, and ../Yes, some is basic hourly pay with extra for unsocial hours and overtime. Overtime is sometimes daily or weekly calculated.
All jobs here need to be looked at very carefully regards pay. There is no longer any national nor industry standard as such.
There are moves afoot to cut wages and conditions here too, as usual from the right wing parties, who seem to think it’s their God given right to get richer, at the expense of 90% of the population.
When I was carting fuel, Shell offered their NQ drivers a flat rate deal. If the drivers would forgo their penalties they would get a higher rate. These blokes weren’t having any of it, fearing they would be expected to work maximum hours every day, six days a week. They were told if they didn’t like the deal, don’t vote and it couldn’t go through. Of dozens of drivers, two remote based fellows who would benefit from the change, were the only ones who voted, motion carried unanimously, 2-0. Bloody con artists! It did come back to bite them.
We currently have some “zero hours” contracts in the UK.
There are plans for the current Gov to make changes, but I am sure how far along they are.
Do they exist in Aus?
An employer has no duty to give an employee any guaranteed work, nor any any guaranteed pay at all. Literally a contract with nothing contracted!
But they get to order you to work at any time. You cannot go off and work for anyone else, as you could get called in at any time, and if not available sacked.
A sort of “labour only” “you are a sub-contractor, not an employee” deal.
I may suit a small number of people but for most it is a very lop-sided affair.
So, just to clear up some misconceptions about the 4on 4 off and fly the flag for it….The pattern repeats every 8 weeks so for the first 4 weeks you work 4 days in the actual week, the second 4 weeks you work 3 days in the actual week. This averages out to 3.5 days per week. In my personal situation (I’m still on agency but about to go employed) the company pay a salary - every week you get the same pay based on 3.5 days x 12h using an hourly rate to calculate that. Anything over 12h is overtime, anything under 12h you don’t get docked because its job and knock. So - a nice stable and regular income. For lorry driving, a maximum of 42h per week is considered part time I would say, certainly 3.5 days per week is part time even if the days are long. So for me personally I find it pretty much the only shift pattern in lorry driving where you work part time and a very efficient way to live and work. I get the opportunity for overtime if I want it. I have lots of time to rest/spend with the kids/do stuff at home/go to school events. The industry I deliver to is a 24h operation and they work 4on 4off. In my small experience of speaking to others on the same shift pattern it is a universally loved. One of the questions anyone needs to ask themselves is are you chasing the money or the time.
That’s a crap pattern. I’ve posted mine before
Week 1 rest Tue wed, rest, Fri sat.
Week 2 Mon, rest, rest, Thu Fri Sat
Week 3 Mon Tue Wed Thu, rest rest
And repeat.
We don’t work Sundays and I’m on week 1 after my 3 weekly Easter bank holiday weekend.
48hr contract salaried, never do more than 45 a week, job and knock
Do the wetherspoons 
and as we all said to you before its not 4 on 4 off you are working 7 days in 8 week two and 3
It’s a 4 day week, 4 on 3 off.
From the OP.
7.5 is dpd parcel delivery/collection some of them are heavy
more information… weatherspoon is delivering cages and removing empty ones
Looks like it is down to your preference. Both involve some physical work.
Do you think 4/4 would suit you and yours?
We are all different so it is hard to give actual advice.
The worst to happen is that you go one way, and it does not suit you. That is not usually fatal. If it doesn’t work quit and look the other way. Work like that does come up again.
many thanks for your kind reply
I think the 4-on-4-off shift pattern at DHL Wetherspoons is a great fit for family life, and the location is ideal—only 1.7 miles from home, compared to 22.8 miles for DPD. The salary is also significantly better, with a £12,000 difference. My other plan is to get my Class 1 licence as soon as possible, as I really don’t enjoy lifting heavy or awkward items
morrisons warehouse was like that… said you only worked 5 days a week but twice a month you ended up working 13 days with only 2 off in between
Is the 7.5t job local multi drop + collections ?.If so how many drops expected in a shift let alone collections ?.
Is the class 2 job bulk deliveries like 3 drops max per shift maybe a couple of collections.
These are the type of questions to ask .