Simonh1877:
Are internal straps a legal requirement. We have the new type of straps that are bloody
Useless, half of the trailers have had them taken out. Every load is secured with Rachel
Straps, I was always led to believe internals were a legal requirement.
I always like to secure my load,half of our drivers don’t,
All our trailers are euroliners, not a internal insight! Everything is held down by Rach
Mazzer2:
DickyNick:
I doubt they are a legal requirement. However securing the load is a legal requirement. If you’ve no internal straps with some loads that’s going to make it very difficult to put any type of load security on.Internal straps are one big bluff you cannot secure a load to the bed of a trailer with internals, at best you just stop it tipping sideways, until UK hauliers spec trailers for the job they are required to do load security in curtainsiders will always be an issue. Take a look in the back of the next empty European reg lorry you see and notice the difference, night and day springs to mind
Mazzer hits nail on head…hard…again.
Buy the correct trailer for the job and charge the correct rate for doing it. Simple as.
cargobull.com/en/products/load-securing
Load securing is easy with the proper equipment.
Of course loading the ubiquitous flat trailer and using it’s taut plastic rain cover to secure the load is doomed to failure for most cargoes.
Internals are hilarious but best keep the wool pulled over the drivers eyes or else he might well say enough is enough.
Of course it didn’t help that VOSA misunderstood the whole thing themselves for years. After being re-educated by the Germans etc they quietly changed their tack and have now confused the whole country.
Hurryup&wait:
Mazzer2:
DickyNick:
I doubt they are a legal requirement. However securing the load is a legal requirement. If you’ve no internal straps with some loads that’s going to make it very difficult to put any type of load security on.Internal straps are one big bluff you cannot secure a load to the bed of a trailer with internals, at best you just stop it tipping sideways, until UK hauliers spec trailers for the job they are required to do load security in curtainsiders will always be an issue. Take a look in the back of the next empty European reg lorry you see and notice the difference, night and day springs to mind
Mazzer hits nail on head…hard…again.
Buy the correct trailer for the job and charge the correct rate for doing it. Simple as.
cargobull.com/en/products/load-securingLoad securing is easy with the proper equipment.
Of course loading the ubiquitous flat trailer and using it’s taut plastic rain cover to secure the load is doomed to failure for most cargoes.
Internals are hilarious but best keep the wool pulled over the drivers eyes or else he might well say enough is enough.
Of course it didn’t help that VOSA misunderstood the whole thing themselves for years. After being re-educated by the Germans etc they quietly changed their tack and have now confused the whole country.
But you know as well as everyone it’s not practical or financially viable for haulage companies to buy dedicated trailers with load security systems specced for every type of goods they move. They would have to have the rates so high the customer would tell them do one and use someone else. Your talking in an ideal world yes. Think how much empty running they’d have to do. 200-300 miles back to base empty because your that far away empty with a trailer specced for one type of product and a backload which requires a different type of load security. Not going to happen is it.
The Dutch tilts I have used in the past used to have a rolled up strap fixed to one side on trailer edge, and a ratchet mechanism fixed to the other, with a hole in the middle so you could tighten it with a bar, tightness depending on nature of load,
A much better system, also there was like a criss cross webbing from the top bar on the tilt, pulled down to the top of the trailer sideboard on each section with like a tautliner buckle between the side poles, which just about covered every eventuality.
Obviously if you were carrying steel or similar we used normal ratchet straps for extra safety.
That idea could be easily adapted to a tautliner.
(I ain’t good at explaining stuff, but those who have used them will know what I’m rambling on about. 
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DickyNick:
But you know as well as everyone it’s not practical or financially viable for haulage companies to buy dedicated trailers with load security systems specced for every type of goods they move. They would have to have the rates so high the customer would tell them do one and use someone else. Your talking in an ideal world yes. Think how much empty running they’d have to do. 200-300 miles back to base empty because your that far away empty with a trailer specced for one type of product and a backload which requires a different type of load security. Not going to happen is it.
Rubbish buy a Euroliner with running boards, tie down points, wooden chocks, slip mats and the proper security cross bars and you can secure anything first company I worked for brought a helicopter back from Germany in a Euroliner, used to regularly bring farm machinery and plant back from Germany in Euroliners.
The trailer will pay for itself through lack of fines and the cost of damaged goods.
Yep, a Euroliner will just about tick every box.
robroy:
Yep, a Euroliner will just about tick every box.
Are you trying to change the way it’s been done for 30years, next you’ll be telling people that them Swedish lorries, are better than a British one…
Could you honestly see some of the superstars, we encounter on a daily basis,having to use a euroliner… YouTube isn’t big enough… Bridge strikes might go down a bit everything at 4.0m
robroy:
Yep, a Euroliner will just about tick every box.
Or instead you could simply leave all the ‘strapping’ nonsense to the heroes and EEs and work somewhere that only does fridges, tankers, tippers or boxes and have a stress-free life 
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robroy:
Yep, a Euroliner will just about tick every box.Could you honestly see some of the superstars, we encounter on a daily basis,having to use a euroliner… YouTube isn’t big enough… Bridge strikes might go down a bit everything at 4.0m
Good point well made. 
Bridges?..Nah they’d just alter the heights in their super sat navs, and still manage to hit the lower ones.
Idiocy is a skill you know,.and practiced by many with truck licences.
Mick Bracewell:
robroy:
Yep, a Euroliner will just about tick every box.Or instead you could simply leave all the ‘strapping’ nonsense to the heroes and EEs and work somewhere that only does fridges, tankers, tippers or boxes and have a stress-free life
Never done boxes or tankers, and I could never sleep with a fridge on.
Tippers?. 
…nah that was bad enough when I was in my 20s , and I’ve got no intention of achieving my first stress related heart attack, so I’m oot…
Internal straps are pathetic
Especially when attached to the lip of the trailer
That said, better ■■■■ non load bearing straps than nothing at all