Do you believe that Lloyds is closing 200 branches and laying off 3000 because of Brexit?
If that’s the case do you think that Project Fear is actually being proven to be Project Fact?
Sorry, is this the first time you’ve ever heard of a bank closing branches and laying off staff?
No one but noone knows if project fear will become project fact or project made up ■■■■■■■■. No one knows the implications of brexit or what the damage or gains will be. Its far too early to start blaming brexit for companies laying off staff. If you believe a bank the size of Lloyds can decide to close 200 branches and lay off 3000 staff in the space of a little over a month based purely on brexit then I have some magic beans I can sell you.
More likely they are using brexit as a handy excuse
Lloyds closed there branch in my area about 3 years ago before a brexit vote, so what does that say ?
anything bad that happens in this country will be blamed on brexit but the fact is the country is growing there has been no major hiccups since the vote although the bbc keep on trying to find anything that they can report on as its clear there a multi cultural organization that has more and more ethnics in its ranks so are desperate for some bad news to try to keep this waiting game of getting out put on hold
Swampey2418:
Plenty of other countries out there that will wanna trade…USA, Canada, Chine, South Korea, India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Brazil …etc etc
Twenty seven countries have declared an interest in securing a post-Brexit trade deal with Britain. Out of the 10 largest economies in the world just France and Italy have not shown any interest in a deal. The 27 are:
Australia
Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Chile
China
Colombia
Ecuador
Germany
Ghana
Iceland
India
Ireland
Japan
Kenya
Mexico
New Zealand
Pakistan
Paraguay
Peru
South Korea
Suriname
Switzerland
United States
Uruguay
Venezuela
The total GDP of all of these countries is nearly $50 trillion dollars – 67% of global GDP. In comparison, the EU’s GDP of $16 trillion equates to just 22%.
One country you will see on there is Germany. Although Angela Merkel has made it known publicly that the UK will not receive any special treatment after Brexit that is not the same as making sure she looks after German interests. Hence she has made it clear to the UK government that Germany will negotiate a trade deal with the UK whether through the EU or not. One of the benefits of writing the rules is that you can bend them at will.
Swampey2418:
Plenty of other countries out there that will wanna trade…USA, Canada, Chine, South Korea, India, Pakistan, New Zealand, Brazil …etc etc
Twenty seven countries have declared an interest in securing a post-Brexit trade deal with Britain. Out of the 10 largest economies in the world just France and Italy have not shown any interest in a deal. The 27 are:
Australia
Argentina
Bolivia
Brazil
Canada
Chile
China
Colombia
Ecuador
Germany
Ghana
Iceland
India
Ireland
Japan
Kenya
Mexico
New Zealand
Pakistan
Paraguay
Peru
South Korea
Suriname
Switzerland
United States
Uruguay
Venezuela
The total GDP of all of these countries is nearly $50 trillion dollars – 67% of global GDP. In comparison, the EU’s GDP of $16 trillion equates to just 22%.
One country you will see on there is Germany. Although Angela Merkel has made it known publicly that the UK will not receive any special treatment after Brexit that is not the same as making sure she looks after German interests. Hence she has made it clear to the UK government that Germany will negotiate a trade deal with the UK whether through the EU or not. One of the benefits of writing the rules is that you can bend them at will.
And this is exactly why we must turn our back on the single market
Interesting times at UKIP where their NEC has voted to expel Steven Woolfe’s campaign manager from the party, in what Woolfe’s allies claim is a plot to stop their man becoming leader. Nathan Gill, UKIP’s leader in Wales and a key ally of Nigel Farage, faces being kicked out unless he resigns as an MEP to free up a space for another candidate. Leaked emails show the NEC members who voted to expel Gill include Douglas Carswell (surprise surprise), as well as Piers Wanchope and Marion Mason, two of the three members of the vetting panel which will decide whether Woolfe is allowed to stand for leader. Friends of Woolfe fear this is a sign the vetting panel is weighted against him and claim there is a plot to block him from getting on the ballot.
Stanley Knife:
Interesting times at UKIP where their NEC has voted to expel Steven Woolfe’s campaign manager from the party, in what Woolfe’s allies claim is a plot to stop their man becoming leader. Nathan Gill, UKIP’s leader in Wales and a key ally of Nigel Farage, faces being kicked out unless he resigns as an MEP to free up a space for another candidate. Leaked emails show the NEC members who voted to expel Gill include Douglas Carswell (surprise surprise), as well as Piers Wanchope and Marion Mason, two of the three members of the vetting panel which will decide whether Woolfe is allowed to stand for leader. Friends of Woolfe fear this is a sign the vetting panel is weighted against him and claim there is a plot to block him from getting on the ballot.
Realistically UKIP ceased to be a credible force after Farage walked away from the leadership and is now just adding to that with all the in fighting.The whole Brexit agenda is now on a knife edge regarding the question of May’s true intentions and the amount of powers which the ministers for Brexit like Davis actually have accordingly.All the signs are that Cameron has succeeded in taking out UKIP in addition to a scam referendum with Farage having been stupid enough to go along with the plan.Rather than chucking out Carswell and maintaining UKIP’s European Parliamentary position by warning leave voters of the likely true nature of Cameron’s ‘referendum’ agenda and the inevitable results.
As for Brexit there’s probably more chance of that by the Labour vote forcing a change in Labour Party thinking than May going through with the referendum decision.Having said that hopefully she will prove that wrong by invoking article 50 as soon as possible.I won’t be holding my breath waiting in that regard.
OVLOV JAY:
And this is exactly why we must turn our back on the single market
Unfortunately we haven’t even got as far as the question of May’s intentions regarding article 50 being out of the way yet.Let alone the question whether she’s up for taking on the CBI by going nuclear on Merkel and Juncker.
UKIP leadership hopeful Steven Woolfe has admitted failing to disclose a drink-driving ban when seeking election as a police and crime commissioner. Mr Woolfe told Huffington Post he “forgot about the conviction” from 2002 when he stood for election in 2012 - in a possible breach of electoral law. He got a £350 fine and nine-month ban for being drunk in charge of a scooter. Mr Woolfe is awaiting UKIP’s verdict on whether he can run for the leadership, having missed the nominations deadline. The 48-year old MEP and immigration spokesman, who is seen as the frontrunner to succeed outgoing leader Nigel Farage, blamed technical issues with the registration site and insisted he was still in the race. This has not been officially confirmed by the party, which is scheduled to announce the final list of candidates on Tuesday.
Evil8Beezle: Mr Woolfe is awaiting UKIP’s verdict on whether he can run for the leadership, having missed the nominations deadline. The 48-year old MEP and immigration spokesman, who is seen as the frontrunner to succeed outgoing leader Nigel Farage, blamed technical issues with the registration site and insisted he was still in the race. This has not been officially confirmed by the party, which is scheduled to announce the final list of candidates on Tuesday.
The list of candidates is:
Jonathan Arnott
Phillip Broughton
Lisa Duffy
Bill Ethridge
Diane James
Liz Jones
Steven Woolfe
My own preference would be for Woolfe with James as his deputy. A non-white male and a white female as the two top dogs would put paid to the racist/sexist jibes constantly aimed at UKIP through the years. Woolfe is certainly not up to the standard of Farage, but then who is, but he is someone who can carry on the work, whilst James is very diligant and a ■■■■ hard worker.
Should Woolfe get elected his first job should be to sideline Carswell, Hamilton, Flynn and Evans. Cuckoos in the nest, the lot of them!
As regards missing the deadline he sent the application at 1135, 25 minutes before the deadline. It was accepted at 1215 with the computer getting the blame. Where the anomaly arises is that Woolfe had previously allowed his membership to lapse. If being a member is an absolute for holding a party position then the day after his membership lapsed he should have been officially expelled and UKIP should have publicly said that he was no longer a UKIP MEP.
They did not do that, so there is clear evidence that paid up party membership is not that important in reality, whatever the party rules may say. If he is stopped from standing solely on the grounds of having let his membership lapse then I would expect him to take the party to court and win very easily.
UKIP has now been brought down by Hamilton by the looks of it.
Woolfe brought the prospect of a gain to the number of UKIP seats, presenting the possibility of the next general election ending up with a Tory/UKIP coalition due to the current government “not moving quickly enough with full Brexit implementation”. The next general election cannot be put off beyond May 2020 after all. Plenty of pundits are arguing that Brexit will not be even over 50% implemented by that point.
SO… Instead of getting behind their leader and going for the Unity option (dithering with which has split Labour) you’ve got idiots like Hamilton who wants to convert UKIP into the “Hamilton for the top” cause - when we’ve never really forgiven him for his prior bull. That they’ve sabotaged Woolfe’s entry on a technicality shows to the wider public that in future “If you vote UKIP - you don’t actually know what you’ll be getting” any more.
I’ll be faced with the choice of either hoping that May surprises, and gets me to vote Conservative then, or I won’t be voting at all at the next election.
No one is going to vote for a split UKIP FFS - Not even me. It beggars belief that you can even have the concept of a “split party” with only one MP - but there you go.
I suppose there is always the chance that someone else will wrest control away from Hamilton, and then purge the likes of him from the party - but we’ll just have to wait and see.
Life’s too short to keep on holding one’s breath after all.
My bigger worry right now is that it’s currently considered “inevitable” and “when rather than if” a multiple casualty terror attack is going to occur in the UK - thanks to the drawbridge STILL not being raised by this point.
“Freedom of Movement” has GOT to go. This HAS to be “Non negotiable” with regards to the wider EU.
That Hamilton is odd ball to say the least, definitely something not right/dodgy like he could be a ■■■■■, Charlie in Chester or similar. his wife is creepy too, he will cost ukip votes
As for the drawbridge and Brexit, Sharia is clearly in no rush ,and will use it as a carrot to try and put the tory scum back in office at the next GE, We should hold mass protests around the country and try and force their hand into at the very least triggering article 50 long before 2020, but talking about it will achieve nothing
Winseer:
UKIP has now been brought down by Hamilton by the looks of it.
Woolfe brought the prospect of a gain to the number of UKIP seats, presenting the possibility of the next general election ending up with a Tory/UKIP coalition due to the current government “not moving quickly enough with full Brexit implementation”. The next general election cannot be put off beyond May 2020 after all. Plenty of pundits are arguing that Brexit will not be even over 50% implemented by that point.
SO… Instead of getting behind their leader and going for the Unity option (dithering with which has split Labour) you’ve got idiots like Hamilton who wants to convert UKIP into the “Hamilton for the top” cause - when we’ve never really forgiven him for his prior bull. That they’ve sabotaged Woolfe’s entry on a technicality shows to the wider public that in future “If you vote UKIP - you don’t actually know what you’ll be getting” any more.
I’ll be faced with the choice of either hoping that May surprises, and gets me to vote Conservative then, or I won’t be voting at all at the next election.
No one is going to vote for a split UKIP FFS - Not even me. It beggars belief that you can even have the concept of a “split party” with only one MP - but there you go.
I suppose there is always the chance that someone else will wrest control away from Hamilton, and then purge the likes of him from the party - but we’ll just have to wait and see.
Life’s too short to keep on holding one’s breath after all.
My bigger worry right now is that it’s currently considered “inevitable” and “when rather than if” a multiple casualty terror attack is going to occur in the UK - thanks to the drawbridge STILL not being raised by this point.
“Freedom of Movement” has GOT to go. This HAS to be “Non negotiable” with regards to the wider EU.
Realistically Brexit now depends on a radical change within the Labour Party in which it splits along Socialist v Nationalist lines thereby giving the majority of the Leave vote democratic representation in parliament.While UKIP and the Cons are both crippled by free markets ideology with the Cons also being equally crippled by Federalist ideology.When Brexit can only be reflected from a Nationalist and Protectionist position.
As for UKIP it’s obviously and inevitably imploding.Under the weight of the contradiction of it being ideologically closer to people like Cameron and May than Hoey etc and having suddenly realised that the vote for Brexit is mostly about the Labour vote not Conservative.
Hold on how are ukip “crippled by free markets ideology” the tory plants within maybe but lets not forget farage is still leader, until a new one is elected, but ukip need to rid themselves of the ex tory scum otherwise it will loose all credibility and that’s what sharia frau may wants , as for labour in it’s present format, we may as well have frau fatima merkel as their leader ffs lets accelerate the rise of England-ISTAN shall we
Labour isnt worthy of any votes unless you are a ■■■■ hurt millenial or are as generation snowflake libturd and in all honesty i don’t see that changing any time soon, 2020 not a chance, as if no brexit by then we will be on the brink of a civil war if not in one brexit needs to be triggered and now
tommy t:
Hold on how are ukip “crippled by free markets ideology” the tory plants within maybe but lets not forget farage is still leader, until a new one is elected, but ukip need to rid themselves of the ex tory scum otherwise it will loose all credibility and that’s what sharia frau may wants , as for labour in it’s present format, we may as well have frau fatima merkel as their leader ffs lets accelerate the rise of England-ISTAN shall we
It was the ‘Tory Plants’ I was referring to.How many being the key question but sadly there are obviously plenty/too many of them.
As for Farage the jury is still out.But walking away from the job instead of standing his ground and his total silence regarding remainers like May and Hammond hijacking the agenda doesn’t look good.Which still leaves the real question of his motivation for Brexit.IE a Nationalist/Protectionist agenda.Or a global free markets one which just means more of the same race to the bottom economics and replacing EU immigration with even more non EU immigration.Obviously being closer to Cameron than Le Pen doesn’t look good in that regard.
As for Labour yes as it stands it’s a joke which is why we need a split in which people like Hoey among others walk away and start up a new proper ‘Labour’ Party which stands for the interests of the country not the CBI and/or Socialist zb wits like Corbyn’s followers.As I said there’s probably more chance of that than UKIP getting its act together.
tommy t:
Hold on how are ukip “crippled by free markets ideology” the tory plants within maybe but lets not forget farage is still leader, until a new one is elected, but ukip need to rid themselves of the ex tory scum otherwise it will loose all credibility and that’s what sharia frau may wants , as for labour in it’s present format, we may as well have frau fatima merkel as their leader ffs lets accelerate the rise of England-ISTAN shall we
It was the ‘Tory Plants’ I was referring to.How many being the key question but sadly there are obviously plenty of them.
As for Farage the jury is still out.But walking away from the job instead of standing his ground and his total silence regarding remainers like May and Hammond hijacking the agenda doesn’t look good.
As for Labour yes as it stands it’s a joke which is why we need a split in which people like Hoey among others walk away and start up a new proper ‘Labour’ Party which stands for the interests of the country not the CBI and/or Socialist zb wits like Corbyn’s followers.As I said there’s probably more chance of that than UKIP getting its act together.
Well there is a 2000+ petition to expel carswell ,and the peado creepy looking Hamilton needs to go as well, what i don’t for the life of me get is why ukip let them in, once a tory ■■■■■ ) always the same ■■■■ what were they thinking ■■?
