Harry Monk:
Believe me, that is absolutely bog-standard wages for Kent.
iv not seen anything that low for at least 10 years in this part of Kent, Even Castledene are well over £8 ph now, there are to many supermarket rdc’s , frozen foods and sweets delivery jobs around this area all screaming for drivers for the wages to be that low even for class two
Surely the agencies pay more than that ?
I worked full time for Protem & HRGO for a minimum of £10 per hour for the first 8 hours then time & a quarter possibly time & a half after that, that was 4/5 years ago !!!.
Just seen the ad & I cant honestly see them getting many applicants foriegn or British.
This job used to be a top earner for a working man/maness and you couldn’t get in there without connections. Now it’s a job they have struggled to fill for years and you can see why. Never mind, at least Mr Murdoch hasn’t fallen on hard times…see what I did there? 
Is there a link for this job.
I’ll apply for a laugh.
DrivingMissDaisy:
This job used to be a top earner for a working man/maness and you couldn’t get in there without connections. Now it’s a job they have struggled to fill for years and you can see why. Never mind, at least Mr Murdoch hasn’t fallen on hard times…see what I did there?
I not sure menzies ever used to have their own trucks only had vans for delivery to the shops. i’m sure TNT and the likes always collected the papers and mags from the presses . I am fairly sure Downtons take the sun to the wholesalers and even they are on £8 ph on days
chester1:
DrivingMissDaisy:
This job used to be a top earner for a working man/maness and you couldn’t get in there without connections. Now it’s a job they have struggled to fill for years and you can see why. Never mind, at least Mr Murdoch hasn’t fallen on hard times…see what I did there?I not sure menzies ever used to have their own trucks only had vans for delivery to the shops. i’m sure TNT and the likes always collected the papers and mags from the presses . I am fairly sure Downtons take the sun to the wholesalers and even they are on £8 ph on days
Who do you think did it before TNT? A Murdoch company at the time by the way.
DrivingMissDaisy:
chester1:
DrivingMissDaisy:
This job used to be a top earner for a working man/maness and you couldn’t get in there without connections. Now it’s a job they have struggled to fill for years and you can see why. Never mind, at least Mr Murdoch hasn’t fallen on hard times…see what I did there?I not sure menzies ever used to have their own trucks only had vans for delivery to the shops. i’m sure TNT and the likes always collected the papers and mags from the presses . I am fairly sure Downtons take the sun to the wholesalers and even they are on £8 ph on days
Who do you think did it before TNT? A Murdoch company at the time by the way.
Did they ever prove he owned TNT ?. I thought he didn’t keep a promise to invest in TNT after the Wapping strike .
DrivingMissDaisy:
chester1:
DrivingMissDaisy:
This job used to be a top earner for a working man/maness and you couldn’t get in there without connections. Now it’s a job they have struggled to fill for years and you can see why. Never mind, at least Mr Murdoch hasn’t fallen on hard times…see what I did there?I not sure menzies ever used to have their own trucks only had vans for delivery to the shops. i’m sure TNT and the likes always collected the papers and mags from the presses . I am fairly sure Downtons take the sun to the wholesalers and even they are on £8 ph on days
Who do you think did it before TNT? A Murdoch company at the time by the way.
I understood that the Trains used to take the papers (out of Fleet Street) & when they threatened strikes (as Union’s tend to do) back in the 80’s/90’s (I think) Mr ‘M’ put TNT into Wapping so that The Sun & the Times wouldn’t be jeopardised, also made sense because the Trains only go up & down the tracks, whereas wagons can go any where.
(That’s probably the simple answer, I’m sure there’s more to it than that !)
I used to collect The Express & the Sport out of West Ferry & some times we would run into Wapping if they needed more wagons.
We would deliver to wholesalers like Smiths & Menzies all over the southern part of the country, furthest south west I went was Bovey Tracey, you could just do it in a shift, Leighton Buzzard-Isle of Dogs-Bovey Tracey-Leighton Buzzard. We would also go up as far as Derby & Nottingham any further north I believe was serviced by the Manchester presses.
chester1:
DrivingMissDaisy:
chester1:
DrivingMissDaisy:
This job used to be a top earner for a working man/maness and you couldn’t get in there without connections. Now it’s a job they have struggled to fill for years and you can see why. Never mind, at least Mr Murdoch hasn’t fallen on hard times…see what I did there?I not sure menzies ever used to have their own trucks only had vans for delivery to the shops. i’m sure TNT and the likes always collected the papers and mags from the presses . I am fairly sure Downtons take the sun to the wholesalers and even they are on £8 ph on days
Who do you think did it before TNT? A Murdoch company at the time by the way.
Did they ever prove he owned TNT ?. I thought he didn’t keep a promise to invest in TNT after the Wapping strike .
He signed an agreement with Alan Jones of TNT, a copy of which was produced at an Industrial Tribunal after the chair of the Tribunal demanded it. Perhaps a better term would be " a Murdoch influenced company"…
georgy:
The attitude of people not getting out of bed for a set wage is the reason this country has gone to the dogs and the reason there is so many immigrants in work as they will happily do it for the low wage as in there country £250 a week is £500 in their country or something.Had a class one polish driver in at work on agency, told me he clears £350 a week on days 4 on 4 off.
This country has gone to the dogs not because of low pay but because it is run by idiots in suits who haven’t got a clue about anything. I won’t get out of bed for low pay because I cannot afford to, I live in a village about 20 miles from hull so if I work for NMW I would get £50 for 8 hours take off £10 for fuel so left with 40 for a days work, how do I live on that and replace my car when worn out.
The polish can work for NMW because they have no costs, I drove for a market garden last summer and they had about 40 working there earning has much in one week as they could in five back home but they lived in cabins 8 in each one.
DrivingMissDaisy:
chester1:
DrivingMissDaisy:
chester1:
DrivingMissDaisy:
This job used to be a top earner for a working man/maness and you couldn’t get in there without connections. Now it’s a job they have struggled to fill for years and you can see why. Never mind, at least Mr Murdoch hasn’t fallen on hard times…see what I did there?I not sure menzies ever used to have their own trucks only had vans for delivery to the shops. i’m sure TNT and the likes always collected the papers and mags from the presses . I am fairly sure Downtons take the sun to the wholesalers and even they are on £8 ph on days
Who do you think did it before TNT? A Murdoch company at the time by the way.
Did they ever prove he owned TNT ?. I thought he didn’t keep a promise to invest in TNT after the Wapping strike .
He signed an agreement with Alan Jones of TNT, a copy of which was produced at an Industrial Tribunal after the chair of the Tribunal demanded it. Perhaps a better term would be " a Murdoch influenced company"…
that’s what I recalled . If he’d have owned them proper the other publications would have pulled the plug on using TNT so they will not have lined his pockets . I understand a local firm to me Castledenes still does a lot of work delivering to wholesalers at night because they went thru the picket lines .
There was a lot of feeling that Murdoch, Jones and ‘Tiny’ Rowland were in some way united to teach the unions a lesson at Wapping.
I remember TNT using MAN trucks as ‘blockade runners’ going through the picket line at Wapping. MAN trucks were at that time imported to Britain by Tiny’s Lonrho Company, and you didn’t see many of them on the road.
Torkey:
Harry Monk:
Believe me, that is absolutely bog-standard wages for Kent.I’d sooner go back to being a Postman on £8.86 (ish) an hour…
Honestly… there has to be a point where people say “[zb] it - it’s just not worth it…” and change career…
I’ve already reached that conclusion. No intention of doing any of my CPC. Local chemists are paying £7 per hour for driving a Citroën Berlingo delivering prescriptions to households and care homes. It’ll do me, no VOSA, no CPC, no infringements etc. 
Harry Monk:
Believe me, that is absolutely bog-standard wages for Kent.
May be bog standard for East Kent/Planet Thanet (E U designated area of deprivation IIRC) the pay rate being offered is a disgrace,E Euros will not work for that they’ve all got wise now and love a pound note or two! there are plenty of firms in the Larkfield/Aylesford some paying a little more some a lot more! plus its an easy commute to S E London for better money.Couple of fellas I know do odd nights for a pallet network via agency around £11/12 per hour they tell me.
Torkey:
You’ll be surprised at some of the tossers on here that will accept these [zb] wages… i’d sooner trap my [zb] head in a car door!
…Shouldn’t that be trap their head in a car door? - All the time there’s some pillock, jailbird, or dodgy licenced geezer who’ll take work like that, they’ll never be any pay rises in the industry. 
Harrymonk - I’m gonna have to disagree with you regarding it being “standard wages for kent” - I work in New Hythe (larkfield) a lot, and the least I’ve been paid for doing so is £9ph days. That’s why I generally only pick up weekends and nights there.
Maybe polypipe & DPD pay rubbish, since I’ve never found myself being offered a shift there (I always ask agencies never to offer me below standard hourly rates before I start y’see… 6 out of 9 agencies I signed on with never gave me any work, perhaps as a result of my “fussiness”. 
GasGas:
There was a lot of feeling that Murdoch, Jones and ‘Tiny’ Rowland were in some way united to teach the unions a lesson at Wapping.
If you think ASLEF are dinosaurs, they have nothing on the old print unions. I used to have a neighbour who ran a shop all week, and worked Saturday night printing the Sunday Times. He earned more that night than most men earned in a week. What did he do? He pushed a button.
YES - he was the man who started and stopped the press. That was his entire job - someone would shout “OK Fred” and he pressed start. OK - he did have to keep awake as if the paper got tangled, he had to press the stop button - he couldn’t miss it - the noise woke him up.
These guys would walk out at the drop of a hat and the owners before Murdoch were too scared to stand up to them.
Edit: I forgot to mention that Fred signed in at Fleet Street as Mr D Duck. He paid little tax on his pay.