jakethesnake:
Maybe the training has a lot to answer for. All about making money rather than supplying decent drivers.
Fixed.
Cosmic:
A driver who moved here from Poland who is a great guy, told me that over there its common to just buy a driving licence on the black market and start driving to Europe straight away. No training, no tests, nothing.
Does not surprise me. Heard not so long ago it’s been happening in the UK as well.
ETS:
jakethesnake:
Maybe the training has a lot to answer for. All about making money rather than supplying decent drivers.Fixed.
Unfortunately not but it could do with being fixed. 
CookieMonster:
This is a petrol station I deliver to every few weeks near Stoke. Reverse off a main road into this gap. Not ashamed to say I’ve blocked the road off for a good 5 minutes before now shunting back and to just to move across by an inch, but I can normally get it in pretty quickly.
Stupid thing is, it would take me twice as long to back on to a bay in an RDCSent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk
not very straight is it 
When I worked for Blake’s at Alcester, I was in the yard one day, chatting to another driver and watching an Irish outfit reverse blindside (for him - he was LHD) onto a bay. We knew that the driver was in the office so we did wonder who was reversing it in - some of them were husband/wife teams.
It went in with only one shunt to straighten it up but the real surprise was when a kid, who couldn’t have been much over 13, hopped out of the cab to open the back doors.
Yeah santa seen this many times. Kids learn fast. A place I worked at had open days where teenagers were Invited with their parents (Dad usually a driver) and they were given the opportunity to drive and reverse in a huge yard. It was amazing how well some of them did in such a short space of time.
jakethesnake:
Yeah santa seen this many times. Kids learn fast. A place I worked at had open days where teenagers were Invited with their parents (Dad usually a driver) and they were given the opportunity to drive and reverse in a huge yard. It was amazing how well some of them did in such a short space of time.
It’s easier to learn before you’ve acquired all the wrong habits/routines
ETS:
jakethesnake:
Yeah santa seen this many times. Kids learn fast. A place I worked at had open days where teenagers were Invited with their parents (Dad usually a driver) and they were given the opportunity to drive and reverse in a huge yard. It was amazing how well some of them did in such a short space of time.It’s easier to learn before you’ve acquired all the wrong habits/routines
Exactly correct 100% and that is why it is better to be taught by a good qualified instructor rather than an experienced lorry driver (as in other thread)
Cosmic:
A driver who moved here from Poland who is a great guy, told me that over there its common to just buy a driving licence on the black market and start driving to Europe straight away. No training, no tests, nothing.
Do you believe everything you’re told?
Sounds like popularist urban myth style, negative stereotypical dog ■■■■ to me. 
Did I ever telll you about the time I had a crap in my tipper trailer and a bus load of hen party ladies who were on the top deck stopped beside me.
And there was that time when my time was up and the law drew a chalk mark around me on the bay telling me not to go over it for 9 hours.
I also missed Herald when it went down that night,…and I served in the SAS and stormed the embassy spoiling your snooker.
I’m a big hit in Tesco rdc.s 
I was loading somewhere the other day, foreign wagon on a bay and the driver had dozed off and not noticed his light go green. Big fat british driver waiting to go on the bay afterwards wobbles over after about 5 mins to wake him then wobbles back chuntering on about “useless bloody foreigners” etc.
Fatty then proceeds to back on the bay (good side reverse, empty bays either side), ends up between his bay and the one next to him… shunts forward up the ramp clearly in the wrong gear and stalls… stalls again… stalls again… gets it going for his second attempt and then ends up on his bay at a 45 degree angle… shunts forward and again stalls… eventually ends up on the bay with his cab at 45 degrees. Gives up and takes his keys in.
Whilst this embarrassing spectacle was ongoing the “useless foreigner” has blindsided his rig between two trailers across the yard first attempt.