WOWZA!
ROG:
Assuming you are in a lorry and the other vehicles are car sized then which of those vehicles do you think could scare a horse ?This is a perfect example of why LGV drivers have a bigger responsibility on the road so should have better forward thinking and planning especially as to what is likely to be around the bend particularly in rural areas
If this incident serves as a good lesson learned where thankfully no person or animal was hurt then it is unlikely to happen again in the future
As you posted this for public viewing it might also serve as a reminder to others
20mph in a car will SEEM very different to 20mph in a LGV to not only a horse but also other people
According to the highway code I done the correct thing ROG! Which I knew myself anyway was the right thing! I am considerate to all road users whether that be a women on a horse or a man on a bike, I was committed to an incline which had blind bends, traffic in front and traffic to the rear, to stop in said place would have been complete stupidity and caused a vehicle to over take from behind me and in to the path of the said horse and rider! Not my fault then you may say or maybe not but it’s always the what “ifs”. No one was hurt and if I meet them on the same road again at the same place I will continue at the said pace. It was an over reaction from the said person on the horse, and going by quiet a few on your post on horse and hound they tend to agree!
OP, are you agency by any chance, and the company is using this as an excuse?
After following a horse and rider along a road for about half a mile I concluded that the horse had the smaller rear end.
I once crawled past a horse and jockey on the main road in me wagon and I gave her a wide berth and just as I was level with the pair of them the bloody fridge alarm went off and it fired up but no horses spooked in the process thank god but couldn’t have timed it any worse.
Fincham:
After following a horse and rider along a road for about half a mile I concluded that the horse had the smaller rear end.
I’ve noticed that too. And when it’s the other way round it’s always on a wide road with nothing coming the other way, no excuse to loiter!
Bernard
Muckaway:
OP, are you agency by any chance, and the company is using this as an excuse?
Not agency, but all sorted now, no harm done. Done a we experiment this morning, every corner I came to I slowed down till 15mph, good way to build up a bit of traffic, I’m gonna do it the next time I see a police car behind me and see what they have to say about ir lol
Superhampton1980:
Muckaway:
OP, are you agency by any chance, and the company is using this as an excuse?Not agency, but all sorted now, no harm done. Done a we experiment this morning, every corner I came to I slowed down till 15mph, good way to build up a bit of traffic, I’m gonna do it the next time I see a police car behind me and see what they have to say about ir lol
It took me over 3 miles to pass this one,
Mike007:
I believe the driver is a genuine and considerate driver . However he (by his own admission )is not a book learned man. None the worse for this except that some of the things he says make no sense to us overqualified anoraks. I do not believe for a moment that he really meant what he said about building up momentum round the hairpin .What that would literally mean is that he was accelerating into it . Even my little ford maverick will lose the back end if I did that on a hairpin,especially on a LH bend. I would never even dream of doing it with the wagon and drags I used to drive.
What I believe he meant was that as he rounded the hairpin he was gradually applying more throttle . To a non truck driver this may well have sounded as if the truck was being accelerated towards the horse when it was merely the injector pump spitting more fuel into the engine.Add to this the increasing whistle of the turbocharger .
When I first learnt to ride ,it was on a lead rein and straight out onto the road .(precious few schools in those days . We (me ,10 ) learned from day one about how to ride in traffic.It is about observation and using all your senses . The rider in question should have been well aware of the lorry long before it came into view. My response would have been a swift dig in the ribs to Bob the notacob to wake up and that I was in control and "on watch ". He would have then totaly ignored the truck (but had heart failure at a pigeon in a bush further round the corner).
I regret to say that while maybe 5% of drivers are bad with horses ,95% of riders scare the hell out of me when we are on the road. Talk about putting your self in harms way!
And sadly those of us who have been around horses long enough have witnessed the effects of a horse on car collision. Some have lost horses ,some of us have lost family or friends. And no car driver is immune to the impact of a 500kg horse,We dont ride on the roads because we like it . It scares the hell out of most of us.
Read more at horseandhound.co.uk/forums/s … ofUGrw5.99
Maybe you weren’t wearing glasses when reading my post, but I did not say building up momentum around a hairpin, I said as I drove around the hairpin I accelerated out off it to get momentum to go up the hill. Over qualified anoraks? You can’t even read what I said and jumped the gun and come out with your own take off the situation, which was what I was saying in the first place lol I think maybe you are the man who isn’t “book learned” tally hoo old chap
The ex jockey Mick Fitzgerald was on Mastermind recently (his career ended with a badly damaged back following a fall) and he said something which made me think. It went along the lines of ‘No matter how good a rider you think you might be you are infact riding an animal with a brain of its own and they will always have control no matter what you want or expect them to do’, I hadn’t thought of it like that but it is obvious really. I always give horses plenty of room like most professional drivers would, however it does annoy me when I come across them riding two abreast and they have no intention of pulling into the kerb. I encountered the local hunt last week unloading their animals on a narrowish country lane but with a laybye and they were all across the road, they did wave me through though (I was in my car) plus they had folk in hi-viz stationed several yards either side to warn traffic which was about the best they could do in the situation really.
Pete.
pete smith:
Superhampton1980:
Muckaway:
OP, are you agency by any chance, and the company is using this as an excuse?Not agency, but all sorted now, no harm done. Done a we experiment this morning, every corner I came to I slowed down till 15mph, good way to build up a bit of traffic, I’m gonna do it the next time I see a police car behind me and see what they have to say about ir lol
It took me over 3 miles to pass this one,
Why the hell would you pass at all■■?
Uncle Albie:
Superhampton1980:
Uncle Albie:
You can clearly see why we get such a bad name from other road users (who are just as entitled to use the roads as us) when you read through some of these posts.
It’s very clear some lorry drivers do not have a clue around horses and are only interested in themselves and anyone that slows their progress should not be on the road.
Selfish and ignorant and no respect.I have met many a horse and rider on the road, but have never encountered one coming last second and me committed to an incline. If I do see them I’m more than happy to slow and give way if I have to, plus it’s nice to get a lovely smile of the females that are on most of these horses. So as for your no respect nonsense, that’s not true
Sorry but it is true maybe not in your case but certainly with plenty other drivers.
My sister runs a riding school and also holds a class one.
She encounters morons everyday some in cars and some in lorries.
Not slowing down blasting their horns and leaving little or no distance when passing.
According to her it is about 50 50.
Some very courteous and some very rude and ignorant
Same as horse riders then? ?
Uncle Albie:
You can clearly see why we get such a bad name from other road users (who are just as entitled to use the roads as us) when you read through some of these posts.
It’s very clear some lorry drivers do not have a clue around horses and are only interested in themselves and anyone that slows their progress should not be on the road.
Selfish and ignorant and no respect.
TRY READING IT THIS WAY
You can clearly see why we get such a bad name from other road users (who are just as entitled to use the roads as us) when you read through some of these posts.
It’s very clear some horse riders do not have a clue around other road users and are only interested in themselves and anyone that slows their progress should not be on the road.
Selfish and ignorant and no respect.
surely another timely reminder that if god had meant us to ride around on horses,then he wouldn’t have invented cars and trucks.
Don’t drop your cowboy hat over this, just having a little play. Your dinner speech fitted tang drivers quite well too
dieseldog999:
TRY READING IT THIS WAYYou can clearly see why we get such a bad name from other road users (who are just as entitled to use the roads as us) when you read through some of these posts.
It’s very clear some TANG JOCKEYS do not have a clue around other road users and are only interested in themselves and anyone that slows their progress should not be on the road.
Selfish and ignorant and no respect.surely another timely reminder that if god had meant us to ride around on WHEELS,then he wouldn’t have invented horses.
Uncle Albie, you’re fooling nobody; We know you’re Albion1971.
I used to drive a bit around the New Forest and became used to the free ranging ponies there- it’d take a lot to disturb them. Then on one trip I had to go to Newmarket way. In a lane a string of horses was approaching me. I pulled over to the side and stopped. The lead rider called me to turn off engine. OK. First horse passed OK, but 2nd one got spooked, backed into side of trailer and damaged itself on rope hooks. The other riders decided to turn around and go another route. No consequences for me, just an example of how stupid some of these animals are!
Now, a point. Would it be ok for anyone to drive a vehicle on the public roads if they knew the steering could suddenly pull off to one side? Or if putting on the brakes resulted in a ‘wheelie’? No, so no horse that’s likely to do so should be on the public road either. I do slow down for horses etc, but ain’t happy about skittish ones being there. Those who have these animals should IMHO take a more defensive attitude to their own safety and respect the safety of others. As has been said, half a ton of moving meat is not safe for anyone.
The mechanic we use does a lot of work on horseboxes, and has said these horse owners have animals worth thousands, yet they transport them in what amounts to sheds on wheels. No wonder Dobbin gets spooked by lorries, everytime he sees an Iveco approaching he thinks he’s got to get in it. Enough to upset anyone.
Franglais:
Now, a point. Would it be ok for anyone to drive a vehicle on the public roads if they knew the steering could suddenly pull off to one side? Or if putting on the brakes resulted in a ‘wheelie’? No, so no horse that’s likely to do so should be on the public road either. I do slow down for horses etc, but ain’t happy about skittish ones being there. Those who have these animals should IMHO take a more defensive attitude to their own safety and respect the safety of others.
A good point but a bit like cyclists you’ll find most of them will shift the bulk of the responsibility for their safety to every other road user first
Muckaway:
No wonder Dobbin gets spooked by lorries, everytime he sees an Iveco approaching he thinks he’s got to get in it. Enough to upset anyone.
In my experience when encountering our equestrian relatives and forerunners I find due to the multiple hazard situation that I let the rider take charge, passing as quietly and slowly as I can and watching the rider for clues to how the horse is coping.
It’s been a while since I was in the saddle and have never been on a road with one, although an ex girlfriend did take me ■■■■■■■■ once on a hack near the road.
Anyway horses pick up on fear very quickly so an experienced rider will know how to handle your average passing move, if the trucker can assist by being cautious and as quiet as possible all should be fine.
However a spooked horse is a nightmare (pardon the pun), that will take more than a sugar cube and a picture of Celine Dion to calm down.
Share the love, share the road’s.
Muckaway:
I’ve never understood the attraction in wearing a funny hat and having something resembling Celine Dion between your legs, occasionally defecating on the highway.
Sounds like one of my roleplay evenings with the wife.