Daytrunker:
By the sound if it the OP couldn’t see round the bend,(if you could you would have spotted said horsey lady and slowed).
Friday or not as I suspect couldn’t see clearly what was round the bend so slowing down till you can clearly see is in order,could have been anything round the bend(hazard perception anyone??).
So travelling round a bend at say 16mph is excessive? Next time I come to a bend I’m gonna stop, park up, put hazards on, get out, walk round see if it’s clear and if clear to do so I’m gonna push the thing around it
Not at all chief,but blind bends are the same in a town you wouldn’t go round a corner without making sure what’s there (pedestrians bikes joggers cars buses etc),if you can’t see you can’t see end of,wonder what post would the OP would put up if he was walking round said blind bend and a wagon flew round the bend and chuffed off up the hill nearly making him jump or startling him?.
You can clearly see why we get such a bad name from other road users (who are just as entitled to use the roads as us) when you read through some of these posts.
It’s very clear some lorry drivers do not have a clue around horses and are only interested in themselves and anyone that slows their progress should not be on the road.
Selfish and ignorant and no respect.
Wearing a hi-viz makes you immune from being run over.
Wake up! Painting something yellow doesn’t make it safe and resistant to harm.
I’ve seen drivers with hi-viz being flattened by bright yellow fork-lifts with flashing lights and a reversing bleeper in a bright yellow painted area. It doesn’t matter what colour you paint an idiot, they’re still an idiot.
I don’t wear yellow, I wear orange, it’s much more visible against sunlight. Do I expect it to protect me from stupid drivers? No. Do I ride less defensively because I’ve got it on? No. Will it give me a few milliseconds more time for a driver to react after driving around a blind bend. Yes. Might that be enough to save mine or my horses life? Yes.
Do you have a problem with any of that yourhavinalarf, or did you just want to have a pointless pop at one of the more considerate horse riders you will meet out on a road?
It shouldnt matter what was round that bend. Be it a horse or a broken down vehicle on either side of the road. Driving beyond your vision is asking for trouble
Rule 215 Highway Code
Horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles. Be particularly careful of horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles especially when overtaking. Always pass wide and slowly. Horse riders are often children, so take extra care and remember riders may ride in double file when escorting a young or inexperienced horse or rider. Look out for horse riders’ and horse drivers’ signals and heed a request to slow down or stop. Take great care and treat all horses as a potential hazard.
This rule is not a LAW but advice on how to pass horses in such a manner that is safe for all involved, below are some exceptions that could get you in trouble with the police.
1, You were driving passed the horses at a steady 15mph no more while maintaining a wide gap equivalent of the gap you would give another vehicle. = Police not likely to get involved.
2, You decided to accelerate in excess of 15mph or more past the horses while leaving plenty of room. = Police could report you for driving without due care and attention.
3, You passed the horse/horses slowly while maintaining a large enough gap but decided to rev your engine or sound your horn. = Police could report you for dangerous driving and also driving without due care if they can prove the revving of the engine and sounding of the horn were intentionally done to scare the horse/horses.
4, You are in a large vehicle going up a hill at a slow pace when you see a horse rider coming down the hill, your engines rev counter is crying out for mercy do you come off the gas and slow down or do you continue at the same speed? to slow down or stop would cause more of a road hazard that could scare the horse and rider than continuing at the already controlled but steady pace. = No driver in the UK has been challenged by the law regarding this scenario to date…
On a personal note, I never drive like an ■■■ when passing horses or other road users, although I sometimes don’t agree with the rules or advice, they are there in the highway code so I drive accordingly. I am a keep cyclist and I along with 12,000 other cyclist petitioned our local council to create a safe cycle lane that would take us from point A to point B without us having to use any of the major roads, after a year long debate we managed to convince the local council that this would be beneficial for all road uses involved, the new protected cycle lanes were built and I must say they are excellent yet I still see some cyclists refusing to use them due to principle…What principle■■? if its there and in good condition USE IT!!!
ringfur:
0Live in hope you come across one like this, youd stop then for sure !
I would stop get out of my cabin walk over to the rider and ask, how do I get one of them or let her know that my Scania is also white and has 730 horses, you wanna ride it
These are laws and rules regarding drivers.
Some lorry drivers do not have to follow them as they think they know better.
Selfish and ignorant people.
Apologies to the decent law abiding drivers who seem to be few and far between these days.
I hope I didn’t give you the impression that I don’t abide by the rules and drive like an ■■■, I said in an earlier post that I pick up a copy of the highway code every other year and take the online test once a year, just to keep upto date with everything.
I dunno what all the fuss is about, horses love lorries they ride around in them all the time!
What was said about their ■■■ is probably true as they do most of their digestion in the intestines meaning that a lot of food is not properly digested so they do sometimes practice Coprophagia (eating ■■■) i think Rabbits do this as well probably more animals as well, so that is why their muck is not seen as bad as dog muck
As said just pass as slow and as wide as you can just think the OP was a bit unlucky that he didn’t see the horse sooner doesn’t help that lorries are more noisy than cars either but the driver can only help that so much.
DaveTheMinion: Rule 215 Highway Code
Horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles. Be particularly careful of horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles especially when overtaking. Always pass wide and slowly. Horse riders are often children, so take extra care and remember riders may ride in double file when escorting a young or inexperienced horse or rider. Look out for horse riders’ and horse drivers’ signals and heed a request to slow down or stop. Take great care and treat all horses as a potential hazard.
This rule is not a LAW but advice on how to pass horses in such a manner that is safe for all involved, below are some exceptions that could get you in trouble with the police.
1, You were driving passed the horses at a steady 15mph no more while maintaining a wide gap equivalent of the gap you would give another vehicle. = Police not likely to get involved.
2, You decided to accelerate in excess of 15mph or more past the horses while leaving plenty of room. = Police could report you for driving without due care and attention.
3, You passed the horse/horses slowly while maintaining a large enough gap but decided to rev your engine or sound your horn. = Police could report you for dangerous driving and also driving without due care if they can prove the revving of the engine and sounding of the horn were intentionally done to scare the horse/horses.
4, You are in a large vehicle going up a hill at a slow pace when you see a horse rider coming down the hill, your engines rev counter is crying out for mercy do you come off the gas and slow down or do you continue at the same speed? to slow down or stop would cause more of a road hazard that could scare the horse and rider than continuing at the already controlled but steady pace. = No driver in the UK has been challenged by the law regarding this scenario to date…
On a personal note, I never drive like an ■■■ when passing horses or other road users, although I sometimes don’t agree with the rules or advice, they are there in the highway code so I drive accordingly. I am a keep cyclist and I along with 12,000 other cyclist petitioned our local council to create a safe cycle lane that would take us from point A to point B without us having to use any of the major roads, after a year long debate we managed to convince the local council that this would be beneficial for all road uses involved, the new protected cycle lanes were built and I must say they are excellent yet I still see some cyclists refusing to use them due to principle…What principle■■? if its there and in good condition USE IT!!!
No 4 has answered my question, to stop a large vehicle on a hill or blind bend is asking for trouble and would be more of a hazard than taking it at the reasonable speed. Stop on either and you run the risk of a worse outcome
cptrayes:
I don’t wear yellow, I wear orange, it’s much more visible against sunlight. Do I expect it to protect me from stupid drivers? No. Do I ride less defensively because I’ve got it on? No. Will it give me a few milliseconds more time for a driver to react after driving around a blind bend. Yes. Might that be enough to save mine or my horses life? Yes.
Do you have a problem with any of that yourhavinalarf, or did you just want to have a pointless pop at one of the more considerate horse riders you will meet out on a road?
Yellow…orange…
There’s no need to be pedantic about the colour.
It’s good to know that you don’t subscribe to the ‘paint it yellow and we’re safe’ brigade as so many do.
Can’t quite see where the pointless pop was coming from one of the more considerate drivers you will ever meet out on a road.
I do most of my driving on rural roads ,when I meet the horsey set we usually co-operate with each other and are on our way with a minimum of fuss. here is one “lady” who cant understand what others are doing on her road,she waves her riding crop around and makes a right bum of herself.T
These are laws and rules regarding drivers.
Some lorry drivers do not have to follow them as they think they know better.
Selfish and ignorant people.
Apologies to the decent law abiding drivers who seem to be few and far between these days.
I hope I didn’t give you the impression that I don’t abide by the rules and drive like an ■■■, I said in an earlier post that I pick up a copy of the highway code every other year and take the online test once a year, just to keep upto date with everything.
Not at all Dave it’s a pity more did not know the rules instead of making up their own.
DaveTheMinion: Rule 215 Highway Code
Horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles. Be particularly careful of horse riders and horse-drawn vehicles especially when overtaking. Always pass wide and slowly. Horse riders are often children, so take extra care and remember riders may ride in double file when escorting a young or inexperienced horse or rider. Look out for horse riders’ and horse drivers’ signals and heed a request to slow down or stop. Take great care and treat all horses as a potential hazard.
This rule is not a LAW but advice on how to pass horses in such a manner that is safe for all involved, below are some exceptions that could get you in trouble with the police.
1, You were driving passed the horses at a steady 15mph no more while maintaining a wide gap equivalent of the gap you would give another vehicle. = Police not likely to get involved.
2, You decided to accelerate in excess of 15mph or more past the horses while leaving plenty of room. = Police could report you for driving without due care and attention.
3, You passed the horse/horses slowly while maintaining a large enough gap but decided to rev your engine or sound your horn. = Police could report you for dangerous driving and also driving without due care if they can prove the revving of the engine and sounding of the horn were intentionally done to scare the horse/horses.
4, You are in a large vehicle going up a hill at a slow pace when you see a horse rider coming down the hill, your engines rev counter is crying out for mercy do you come off the gas and slow down or do you continue at the same speed? to slow down or stop would cause more of a road hazard that could scare the horse and rider than continuing at the already controlled but steady pace. = No driver in the UK has been challenged by the law regarding this scenario to date…
On a personal note, I never drive like an ■■■ when passing horses or other road users, although I sometimes don’t agree with the rules or advice, they are there in the highway code so I drive accordingly. I am a keep cyclist and I along with 12,000 other cyclist petitioned our local council to create a safe cycle lane that would take us from point A to point B without us having to use any of the major roads, after a year long debate we managed to convince the local council that this would be beneficial for all road uses involved, the new protected cycle lanes were built and I must say they are excellent yet I still see some cyclists refusing to use them due to principle…What principle■■? if its there and in good condition USE IT!!!
No 4 has answered my question, to stop a large vehicle on a hill or blind bend is asking for trouble and would be more of a hazard than taking it at the reasonable speed. Stop on either and you run the risk of a worse outcome
And carrying on and scaring the horse can have a bad outcome as well.
A good driver knows how to react but many don’t have a clue or care.
Uncle Albie:
You can clearly see why we get such a bad name from other road users (who are just as entitled to use the roads as us) when you read through some of these posts.
It’s very clear some lorry drivers do not have a clue around horses and are only interested in themselves and anyone that slows their progress should not be on the road.
Selfish and ignorant and no respect.
I have met many a horse and rider on the road, but have never encountered one coming last second and me committed to an incline. If I do see them I’m more than happy to slow and give way if I have to, plus it’s nice to get a lovely smile of the females that are on most of these horses. So as for your no respect nonsense, that’s not true
i think the horse rider only spoke to the boss because she knows him…so accept the bollocking and leave it at that. I used to do a lot of work collecting fruit from farms…the roads were niot big enough for a horse let alone a unit and trailer with a fridge blaring its head off…but i had tio approach with caution on every bend, not only for vehicles but horses…/ sadly there wasnt many, but when i saw one or two i would stop and switch off…couldnt get to the fridge because of the hedgerows…but limited scaring the horses…many times i got thanked, sometimes i got to pat their heads…other times i got verbal abuse for daring to be in a country lane i had no right to be in…lol…their views not mine, but i managed to look the other way mostly…and a few times i managed to give as good as i got…women or not.