Thankfully ours are no where as restrictive as some of you.
We are not allowed to take holidays in the weeks leading upto a bank holiday, as we are normally heaving then otherwise no restrictions 
This may help:
The basics of holiday rights:
There is a minimum right to paid holiday, but your employer may offer more than this. The main things you should know about holiday rights are that:
- you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave - 28 days for someone working five days a week (capped at a statutory maximum of 28 days for all working patterns)
- part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)
- you start building up holiday as soon as you start work
- your employer can control when you take your holiday
- you get paid your normal pay for your holiday
- when you finish a job, you get paid for any holiday you have not taken
- bank and public holidays can be included in your minimum entitlement
- you continue to be entitled to your holiday leave throughout your ordinary and additional maternity leave and paternity and adoption leave
Note those in red (4 & 7) if they really want to be arsey!!!
del949:
re OP,
I think that the law gives you the right to days paid holiday per year (28?) but allows the boss to say when you are to take them.
In effect the boss could tell you to have January off as it’s very quiet.
It wouldn’t matter that your partner had different holiday dates, or that you needed school holidays etc.
I don’t think that there is even wriggle room in the rules by way of “reasonable notice etc”
Clearly most bosses will work with you and allow you to take them when you prefer.while writing this appeared
Take it as paid sick, and if and when the firm sacks you over it, there’s not a tribunal or court in the land that will uphold the firm’s side here!
EVERY court or tribunal would uphold the bosses decision if you claim sick pay without actually being sick… it’s called fraud.
You can’t defraud someone who’s just stolen something from you in the first place, or people getting their stolen goods back would be charged with fraud, because they’ve made a police report, got the crime number, and claimed on the insurance already - all in good faith of course!
There’s no way I’d let some crook steal back my holiday abroad that I’ve already booked & paid for - just because he wants to welch any good faith!
You could always just go on holiday, without declaring anything at all I guess, but you’d probably find a P45 on your doormat when you got back more so than if you went sick if you did. 
In these times of austerity, there are going to be many many employers who think “Now’s the time to become a crook, with the government’s full backing!”
We’ve already got a large number of disreputable agencies doing just that after all. Paying commissions to get a shift, “salary sacrifice” when you get paid for doing one, no work unless you sign up for the “umbrella” fiddle, kept away from other agencies by promises of work that never materialise, and getting you to waste regular amounts of money doing document checks even though they don’t feel obliged to actually do what it says on the tin! 
Luckily for me, I’ll just stick with the firms that play it straight. 
You can’t defraud someone who’s just stolen something from you in the first place, or people getting their stolen goods back would be charged with fraud, because they’ve made a police report, got the crime number, and claimed on the insurance already - all in good faith of course!
I am assuming that you wrote this “tongue in cheek”
Im on Agency and “not” employed
That means that i will get priority against Company drivers with taking off during the events as Company drivers got priority during quiet Times with getting Work 
Ours at Samworth Bros is 3 week period over xmas and new year
fredthered:
This may help:The basics of holiday rights:
There is a minimum right to paid holiday, but your employer may offer more than this. The main things you should know about holiday rights are that:
- you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave - 28 days for someone working five days a week (capped at a statutory maximum of 28 days for all working patterns)
- part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)
- you start building up holiday as soon as you start work
- your employer can control when you take your holiday
- you get paid your normal pay for your holiday
- when you finish a job, you get paid for any holiday you have not taken
- bank and public holidays can be included in your minimum entitlement
- you continue to be entitled to your holiday leave throughout your ordinary and additional maternity leave and paternity and adoption leave
Note those in red (4 & 7) if they really want to be arsey!!!
do you really think that number 7 is being arsey? it’s the norm.
I agree, the minimum hols of 28 days equates to 4 weeks for a five day a week worker
(20 days) plus 8 days for bank hols, which I would imagine is fairly standard.
I get 11hours hol pay, and if I don’t earn any load bonus on a day, I’m better off at home than working.
Weird setup.
stevieboy308:
fredthered:
This may help:The basics of holiday rights:
There is a minimum right to paid holiday, but your employer may offer more than this. The main things you should know about holiday rights are that:
- you are entitled to a minimum of 5.6 weeks paid annual leave - 28 days for someone working five days a week (capped at a statutory maximum of 28 days for all working patterns)
- part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)
- you start building up holiday as soon as you start work
- your employer can control when you take your holiday
- you get paid your normal pay for your holiday
- when you finish a job, you get paid for any holiday you have not taken
- bank and public holidays can be included in your minimum entitlement
- you continue to be entitled to your holiday leave throughout your ordinary and additional maternity leave and paternity and adoption leave
Note those in red (4 & 7) if they really want to be arsey!!!
do you really think that number 7 is being arsey? it’s the norm.
No. But then not everyone was/wanted to be a boss did they? If they are in the T&C’s when you sign up then no problem at all for me. Some though work hard and enjoy and treasure the free time they get to enjoy the fruits of their labours! 
fredthered:
2. part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)
In my last job I always questioned this, as I did my 40hrs over 4 days, compared to the other drivers who worked worked their 40hrs over 5 days. I did the same amount of hours as the others, though technically I’d be entitled to less holiday than them. Or am I missing something?
SuffolkLad:
fredthered:
2. part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)In my last job I always questioned this, as I did my 40hrs over 4 days, compared to the other drivers who worked worked their 40hrs over 5 days. I did the same amount of hours as the others, though technically I’d be entitled to less holiday than them. Or am I missing something?
Yeah, because the holidays you’d get would still be based on your hours, so if you did 4x10hr days, then 22.4 x 10 = 224 hours, 28 x 8 = 224 hours
SuffolkLad:
fredthered:
2. part-time workers are entitled to the same level of holiday pro rata (so 5.6 times your usual working week, eg 22.4 days for someone working four days a week)In my last job I always questioned this, as I did my 40hrs over 4 days, compared to the other drivers who worked worked their 40hrs over 5 days. I did the same amount of hours as the others, though technically I’d be entitled to less holiday than them. Or am I missing something?
Yes, you were getting an extra day off every week.
del949:
You can’t defraud someone who’s just stolen something from you in the first place, or people getting their stolen goods back would be charged with fraud, because they’ve made a police report, got the crime number, and claimed on the insurance already - all in good faith of course!
I am assuming that you wrote this “tongue in cheek”
Sometimes I think that the difference between “Successful” and “Normal” is “don’t care about the law” and “Afraid of the Law”!
That’s with both buttocks bouncing around in my mouth too.
I’ve worked for a few companies who have tried refusing holiday at certain times but as i am the sort of person who puts my own life before work i’ve always told them i have made plans & will be taken them even if they have been refused. They have always given in. That is what agencies are for is it not 
The way i see it its my holiday & i have always taken it as & when i want it not when i am told i can take it 
The way i see it its my holiday & i have always taken it as & when i want it not when i am told i can take it
Sadly Tyler, that is not the way the law sees it 
and some bosses will rely on the law…when it suits them.
edited
I wouldn’t mind seeing some ethnic religion kind challenging the law under religious grounds to see what would happen when the EU would get involved under the human rights act.
tyler4164:
I’ve worked for a few companies who have tried refusing holiday at certain times but as i am the sort of person who puts my own life before work i’ve always told them i have made plans & will be taken them even if they have been refused. They have always given in. That is what agencies are for is it not
The way i see it its my holiday & i have always taken it as & when i want it not when i am told i can take it
If I was to do that they would take me to the office with another member of staff and have everything written down as to why I couldn’t turn upto work. Oddly enough there was nobody writing anything down when I received a bollocking through false/misleading information from HR Yet if I was on the other tescos shift you did that it would be a case of ‘yep that’s fine see you tomorrow/next week etc’ No doubt there’ll be people saying ‘well why don’t you just leave if it’s that bad’ it’s all well and good if you have another job to go to but unfortunately I’m not in that position and can’t afford to risk going on agency or even worse being jobless.
As I’ve said previous though the job itself is fine. It’s just the morons who run it although I think that’s the norm at most places I’m assuming?!
Cheers
Jonny
del949:
The way i see it its my holiday & i have always taken it as & when i want it not when i am told i can take it
Sadly Tyler, that is not the way the law sees it
and some bosses will rely on the law…when it suits them.edited
I wouldn’t mind seeing some ethnic religion kind challenging the law under religious grounds to see what would happen when the EU would get involved under the human rights act.
Couldn’t care less what the law says, it’s my life & i will live it the way i want. I know for a fact the company know i’m a good worker & they know i do a good job & that i can be left alone to do it. My personal life comes before work & thats it. Works for me so why change my attitude. It would be their loss if they did get rid of me. Don’t mean this to appear like i’m putting anyone down but in my opinion there’s to many people who just go along with what the big bosses tell you to do & are too affraid to stand up for there self
On recovery, we run a small but tight team of lads. Due to the nature and unpredictability of the job, we need the same level of cover every day of the week.
Christmas is traditionally busy, folk driving home for holidays etc.
Our lads always used to squabble over who had christmas off and who had new year off.
Eventually, as we couldn’t agree on anything, the gaffer said “No holidays in December or January”.
Now if we’re on shift across Christmas, then so be it, we work our normal shift.
We get 8 hours paid, a day in lieu and overtime rate for any job we do on bank holidays worked, and we work from home, but on the whole everyone accepts it as being the best solution and there are no complaints.
As for any other holidays, only 1 person off at a time, first come first served. If someone wants time off and there’s already someone off, they’ve got to arrange cover from one of their oppo’s.
Simple
You can’t defraud someone who’s just stolen something from you in the first place, or people getting their stolen goods back would be charged with fraud, because they’ve made a police report, got the crime number, and claimed on the insurance already - all in good faith of course!
In those circumstances the goods would belong to the insurance company and they could take them away.