wrighty1:
In many areas we agree but really it’s not the fault of young drivers but the education system is deeply floored, now I only passed my HGV cat C last year but I am also 50 this year. When I was young we learnt practical skills at school and at home ie: Engineering with lathes, milling machines, forges etc, we also messed about modifying our bikes (cowhorn handlebars lol) and graduated onto motorbikes and battered old cars. Now they are just taught to pass a test hence the lack of actual education and if anything breaks it’s thrown away rather than fixed, I totally embrace any new technology that can help me but like to think I have enough practical skills and a modicum of common sense to cover my arse when needed. Work/life balance is a hard thing to achieve but is great when you do, I’m not on a fantastic wage but with my wife and I both working we are fairly ok with plenty left to enjoy ourselves. I would of course love to earn £15ph but will never stress over not earning it, being content is far more important than how much you can earn.
^^^^^^^^^this.
Young kids never tuned a 2 stroke with a file
They learn CNC machining, but can not operate a manual operated lathe.
When I did my engineering training, you started with a block of steel, and a set of files, and every week you had to file it in a different shape.
The same when I trained for HGV driver, you had to start at the bottom, being a drivers mate and worked your way up.
You had all the skills, before you was left on your own, and that was in every job.
Now they are 10 times more clever with a computer than I ever will be, but cannot even change a lightbulb.
I am am now an advisor and technical accessor the Haulage industry, and I am surprised and annoyed how little some drivers can and are willing to do.
The other thing is that there is no respect for the vehicles and technology, drivers burning clutches out by holding it up a hill with the clutch (while the is a hill hold or parking brake)
Trucks half a year old, with the whole interior wrecked to bits.
Small damage, was working with a big player and their small damage bill is astronomical, mainly due to reversing damage, recovery from strangest areas, “missing the pin”, and the amount of suzies they go through in a certain period is just scary.
We use to know “if you broke it, you had too fix it” made you a much more careful driver.
Also we use to come in on a Saturday to grease and service the truck, every driver for his own truck.
It made you very aware of the workings.
You won’t ever see the best paid jobs advertised, hence you won’t see the rate’s mentioned above in genuine job adverts.
Companies who pay over the odds don’t need to advertise, few drivers leave and others gravitate in by word of mouth or by seeing the vehicles about then knocking on the door.
There’s often a catch though, you won’t walk straight into what seems to be the holy grail ie 6am starts mon to fri, you might not ever get those hours or days because the best paid jobs are still to be found in own account world and in that world companies stay at the top because their philosophy is 100% the customer is king.
Whatever the customer wants the customer gets, and drivers have to accept that doing what needs to be done to serve the customer is what keeps everyone, from the driver right up to the chairman, in work.
These jobs are often shift based, weekends or part weekends are included on nearly all shift patterns, and whilst that might go against the grain these patterns see you working fewer hours per day and fewer days per year than normal, swings and roundabouts, you will have to start on any shift that happens to be vacant no ifs no buts and work your way up/in.
This can be a stumbling block for some because they won’t invest in their own future’s, plus if you hum and har about it, ‘need to have a chat with the mrs’ all the usual ■■■■■■■■, then you are telling the company you arn’t hungry enough for the job and if you can’t be arsed whether you land the job or not what does that suggest your attitude will be once you are established there, sickie when it suits? winge ■■■■■ moan till your run gets changed?
You have to find these increasingly rare jobs for yourselves, no-one who works at these places is going to name the place to all and sundry or give out details, any drivers already there (if they have any sense) are only going to recommend people they would themselves employ for obvious reasons.
Best tip i can offer for those who want top dollar is don’t chase the lorry, the better paid end doesn’t usually buy the top spec nor do they spend on accessories, and keep in mind you have to work how these companies tell you and be completely reliable, strict and by the book, working for them isn’t for everyone.
Specialising is good for your job security, they can’t just rent a bum in to sit on the seat and steer if the actual job of delivering or setting up the product involves months of ongoing training, @ £££ to the company, to reach a level of competence, its also usually pays better but there’s usually some graft involved.
Juddian:
You won’t ever see the best paid jobs advertised, hence you won’t see the rate’s mentioned above in genuine job adverts.
Companies who pay over the odds don’t need to advertise, few drivers leave and others gravitate in by word of mouth or by seeing the vehicles about then knocking on the door.
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Juddian has it here. Company i sub for pays top dollar for experienced drivers, the turnover is small very few ever leave and when they do need an extra driver no advertising is necessary, theres always a queue at the door…
Many of the best paid ‘Own Account’ operator jobs that Juddian mentions are disappearing.
Firms would rather get in a cheaper option, such as these up their own arse type cowboy ‘Logistical Solutions’ firms such as Wincanton, DHL or The Green death who can do it cheaper.
I know of a firm who have about 6 of their own motors they pay their drivers the same PAY STRUCTURE (which is basically determines the difference between a crap wage and a good wage ) as the manufacturing side of the co, …ie good basic rate for 40 hours, then time + a half thereafter, premium rate for weekend if on.
However a large haulage firm who pay their drivers an average pay rate, with time and a shilling after 50 hours , have gone from getting the overspill, to virtually getting first picks, so the firm’s own lads getting what is left…and having their hours cut. No doubt the end result will be the firm doing away with their own motors.
I understand that is business and the market forces scenario, but why should the drivers have to subsidise the sole reason the transport firm is getting the work, by taking a lower wage.
Many on here have a big style downer on Trade Unions, and tbh, I can see why with the history, but to keep an open mind for a minute, and set aside the 70s militancy,
…This sort of unfair crap would NEVER have happened in the days before workers slowly handed back all their rights that had been fought for and achieved. that point is unarguable.
Big Truck:
I personally know drivers here in NI who are driving quarry bulk tippers/lowloader and bitumen tankers for £7.50hr 1st 40hrs then time and a half rest of week.
Have told them they are MENTAL many times but carry on doin what they do instead of moving on to better paid work.
Big development this week as HALF this small operators trucks will be parked up next Fri.
One truck no driver past 4months.
One truck driver broke leg off duty and not back to July.
Two other trucks drivers handed notice in Thur/Fri there and moving to other bulk tipper/ quarry outfit who pay better money.
Think this fella with 8 artics will struggle to fill the vacancies.
robroy:
Many of the best paid ‘Own Account’ operator jobs that Juddian mentions are disappearing.
Firms would rather get in a cheaper option, such as these up their own arse type cowboy ‘Logistical Solutions’ firms such as Wincanton, DHL or The Green death who can do it cheaper.
As Judian said companies run Own Account Fleets because they provide a service to a customer, I was talking to the owner of such a firm a few years ago and he said my trucks aren’t there to make money, they are there to provide my customers with a guaranteed level of service, but his company made hi-end gear for the type of customer who expects the best and that includes top level service, regardless of cost.
But really anybody who works on an Own account job or any higher paid job is going to have to be willing to do more than turn up and open the doors and that’s what seems to be a problem for many on here, Any time anybody puts on here about a job where you might actually have to graft and they’re spitting their dummies, reckon it’s not a drivers job, they’re not skivvies etc etc
robroy:
I understand that is business and the market forces scenario, but why should the drivers have to subsidise the sole reason the transport firm is getting the work, by taking a lower wage.
Many on here have a big style downer on Trade Unions, and tbh, I can see why with the history, but to keep an open mind for a minute, and set aside the 70s militancy,
…This sort of unfair crap would NEVER have happened in the days before workers slowly handed back all their rights that had been fought for and achieved. that point is unarguable
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The 70’s showed the excess of the Trade Union movement, or the excess of having to much power, but you could say today it’s gone 180 degrees and now the Companies have to much power, can offer any pay and conditions and it’s take it or leave it. We’re seeing some challenges to it in the courts, it still doesn’t seem to be stopping companies finding ways of employing workers not only on low pay but without the protections of full-time employment.
But 30 years of Tory biased media has pretty much brainwashed many about the value of unions,
I remember the debates on here when the Tanker drivers were kicking off as they could see their jobs being de-valued by large haulage operations coming in and undercutting the rates.
Some on here had the attitude that they already got paid well so shouldn’t therefore shouldn’t go on strike. They couldn’t see the reason they got paid well was that they’d stuck together and used the unity to stop their pay and conditions going the same way as General Haulage and while that attitude exists drivers pay and conditions will never improve.
So if you one of those drivers that wants to improve the job, don’t rely on unity from your fellow workers, go out and find the companies who do offer decent term, but expect to do more than turn up and open the doors or curtains.
If you are one of those who goes the extra mile as well as being good at your job, look after the customer and the kit, get yourself a reputation as competent and reliable, you find lorry world (especially if you specialise into a niche you find for yourself) is surprisingly small.
Good reputations open closed doors, the converse is true too, of course this doesn’t happen overnight unless you have family to open the door for you (and good luck to those that do, wish i’d had the right contacts to get on Ford car transporters) there has to be time spent earning your spurs.
It’s not arse licking either, doing a good job brings job satisfaction, and there is precious little of that to be found in lorry world now unless you step outside the usual, if you find you are enjoying your work and getting above average wages for it, that’s win win all round.
I remember the ■■■■■■■■ here well about the tanker lads, who when you saw their shift pattern and hours worked (one lad posted his wage slip, i wouldn’t work there) for the pay it wasn’t actually that good though the headline figure seemed good.
How the hell can an industry better itself when a large number want everyone to be brought down to the basic level, for thats what the attitude from many appeared to be, far better to align with support and encourage betterment, because it does have the desired ripple effect.
1FLEETRENEGADE:
I earn really good money , 45 hours mon-fri no nights out whenever anybody asks where I work and I tell them I do cage deliveries for a supermarket the response is always f&@k that I wouldnt do that type of work !!!
For me it makes no difference minimum hours for maximum money that’s what I want !!
That’s it ain’t it tbh. PH paid around £12.12 ph for that work. 48h week with chance to do overtime. Hard graft but it’s better then most the class 1 jobs some have here being paid £3ph less. Hell PH paid nearly £17ph after 48h worked.
I think some truck drivers overestimate their worth tbh for doing next to nothing regardless if it’s a skilled job or not. A mate of mine did a 13h shift yesterday. 4h driving the rest was sat on bays waiting to be loaded/unloaded. 1pm to 8pm was £12.69ph (£2.49p Sat rate). After 8pm it was £15.18ph (£2.49 Night rate)
If you are one of those who goes the extra mile as well as being good at your job, look after the customer and the kit, get yourself a reputation as competent and reliable, you find lorry world (especially if you specialise into a niche you find for yourself) is surprisingly small.
Good reputations open closed doors, the converse is true too, of course this doesn’t happen overnight unless you have family to open the door for you (and good luck to those that do, wish i’d had the right contacts to get on Ford car transporters) there has to be time spent earning your spurs.
It’s not arse licking either, doing a good job brings job satisfaction, and there is precious little of that to be found in lorry world now unless you step outside the usual, if you find you are enjoying your work and getting above average wages for it, that’s win win all round.
I remember the ■■■■■■■■ here well about the tanker lads, who when you saw their shift pattern and hours worked (one lad posted his wage slip, i wouldn’t work there) for the pay it wasn’t actually that good though the headline figure seemed good.
How the hell can an industry better itself when a large number want everyone to be brought down to the basic level, for thats what the attitude from many appeared to be, far better to align with support and encourage betterment, because it does have the desired ripple effect.
I think this thread confirms what I was saying about drivers looking down their nose at any driver who does a bit more than drive as part of the working day.
JaxDemon:
1FLEETRENEGADE:
I earn really good money , 45 hours mon-fri no nights out whenever anybody asks where I work and I tell them I do cage deliveries for a supermarket the response is always f&@k that I wouldnt do that type of work !!!
For me it makes no difference minimum hours for maximum money that’s what I want !!
That’s it ain’t it tbh. PH paid around £12.12 ph for that work. 48h week with chance to do overtime. Hard graft but it’s better then most the class 1 jobs some have here being paid £3ph less. Hell PH paid nearly £17ph after 48h worked.
I think some truck drivers overestimate their worth tbh for doing next to nothing regardless if it’s a skilled job or not. A mate of mine did a 13h shift yesterday. 4h driving the rest was sat on bays waiting to be loaded/unloaded. 1pm to 8pm was £12.69ph (£2.49p Sat rate). After 8pm it was £15.18ph (£2.49 Night rate)
Not bad for doing 4h driving hey.
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So you can do a 5 day 48 hour week with P&H but have to do a bit of graft or a 48 hour week plus 7 hours overtime on a Saturday to earn the same but not have to actually graft?
If you are one of those who goes the extra mile as well as being good at your job, look after the customer and the kit, get yourself a reputation as competent and reliable, you find lorry world (especially if you specialise into a niche you find for yourself) is surprisingly small.
Good reputations open closed doors, the converse is true too, of course this doesn’t happen overnight unless you have family to open the door for you (and good luck to those that do, wish i’d had the right contacts to get on Ford car transporters) there has to be time spent earning your spurs.
It’s not arse licking either, doing a good job brings job satisfaction, and there is precious little of that to be found in lorry world now unless you step outside the usual, if you find you are enjoying your work and getting above average wages for it, that’s win win all round.
I remember the ■■■■■■■■ here well about the tanker lads, who when you saw their shift pattern and hours worked (one lad posted his wage slip, i wouldn’t work there) for the pay it wasn’t actually that good though the headline figure seemed good.
How the hell can an industry better itself when a large number want everyone to be brought down to the basic level, for thats what the attitude from many appeared to be, far better to align with support and encourage betterment, because it does have the desired ripple effect.
1FLEETRENEGADE:
I earn really good money , 45 hours mon-fri no nights out whenever anybody asks where I work and I tell them I do cage deliveries for a supermarket the response is always f&@k that I wouldnt do that type of work !!!
For me it makes no difference minimum hours for maximum money that’s what I want !!
That’s it ain’t it tbh. PH paid around £12.12 ph for that work. 48h week with chance to do overtime. Hard graft but it’s better then most the class 1 jobs some have here being paid £3ph less. Hell PH paid nearly £17ph after 48h worked.
I think some truck drivers overestimate their worth tbh for doing next to nothing regardless if it’s a skilled job or not. A mate of mine did a 13h shift yesterday. 4h driving the rest was sat on bays waiting to be loaded/unloaded. 1pm to 8pm was £12.69ph (£2.49p Sat rate). After 8pm it was £15.18ph (£2.49 Night rate)
Not bad for doing 4h driving hey.
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So you can do a 5 day 48 hour week with P&H but have to do a bit of graft or a 48 hour week plus 7 hours overtime on a Saturday to earn the same but not have to actually graft?
Depends on who you work for doesn’t it tbh. No one does 48h in 5 days at PH it’s more like 48 in 4 days and ya 5th day is overtime at £17ph near enough without the need to work a sat for the extra rates to make your money up or working through sat night into Sunday morning.
PH you’d be home every night class 1 job your on £10.20 day rate you don’t get the extra until 8pm and the weekend rate is for sat/Sun
I think a lot of people would rather work Monday-Friday rather then evenings and weekends other then myself and a few others.
1FLEETRENEGADE:
I earn really good money , 45 hours mon-fri no nights out whenever anybody asks where I work and I tell them I do cage deliveries for a supermarket the response is always f&@k that I wouldnt do that type of work !!!
For me it makes no difference minimum hours for maximum money that’s what I want !!
That’s it ain’t it tbh. PH paid around £12.12 ph for that work. 48h week with chance to do overtime. Hard graft but it’s better then most the class 1 jobs some have here being paid £3ph less. Hell PH paid nearly £17ph after 48h worked.
I think some truck drivers overestimate their worth tbh for doing next to nothing regardless if it’s a skilled job or not. A mate of mine did a 13h shift yesterday. 4h driving the rest was sat on bays waiting to be loaded/unloaded. 1pm to 8pm was £12.69ph (£2.49p Sat rate). After 8pm it was £15.18ph (£2.49 Night rate)
Not bad for doing 4h driving hey.
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So you can do a 5 day 48 hour week with P&H but have to do a bit of graft or a 48 hour week plus 7 hours overtime on a Saturday to earn the same but not have to actually graft?
Depends on who you work for doesn’t it tbh. No one does 48h in 5 days at PH it’s more like 48 in 4 days and ya 5th day is overtime at £17ph near enough without the need to work a sat for the extra rates to make your money up or working through sat night into Sunday morning.
PH you’d be home every night class 1 job your on £10.20 day rate you don’t get the extra until 8pm and the weekend rate is for sat/Sun
I think a lot of people would rather work Monday-Friday rather then evenings and weekends other then myself and a few others.
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While I agree you also need to find work that suits you personally, there is a thread on here where the OP is saying P&H drivers should have some self respect and not fill shelves, but if the pay is correct then quite honestly for a job to pay the bills, the P&H driver seems to be the smart one if he can earn in 5 days more than your mate and many on General Haulage can earn in 6 days.
1FLEETRENEGADE:
I earn really good money , 45 hours mon-fri no nights out whenever anybody asks where I work and I tell them I do cage deliveries for a supermarket the response is always f&@k that I wouldnt do that type of work !!!
For me it makes no difference minimum hours for maximum money that’s what I want !!
That’s it ain’t it tbh. PH paid around £12.12 ph for that work. 48h week with chance to do overtime. Hard graft but it’s better then most the class 1 jobs some have here being paid £3ph less. Hell PH paid nearly £17ph after 48h worked.
I think some truck drivers overestimate their worth tbh for doing next to nothing regardless if it’s a skilled job or not. A mate of mine did a 13h shift yesterday. 4h driving the rest was sat on bays waiting to be loaded/unloaded. 1pm to 8pm was £12.69ph (£2.49p Sat rate). After 8pm it was £15.18ph (£2.49 Night rate)
Not bad for doing 4h driving hey.
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So you can do a 5 day 48 hour week with P&H but have to do a bit of graft or a 48 hour week plus 7 hours overtime on a Saturday to earn the same but not have to actually graft?
Depends on who you work for doesn’t it tbh. No one does 48h in 5 days at PH it’s more like 48 in 4 days and ya 5th day is overtime at £17ph near enough without the need to work a sat for the extra rates to make your money up or working through sat night into Sunday morning.
PH you’d be home every night class 1 job your on £10.20 day rate you don’t get the extra until 8pm and the weekend rate is for sat/Sun
I think a lot of people would rather work Monday-Friday rather then evenings and weekends other then myself and a few others.
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While I agree you also need to find work that suits you personally, there is a thread on here where the OP is saying P&H drivers should have some self respect and not fill shelves, but if the pay is correct then quite honestly for a job to pay the bills, the P&H driver seems to be the smart one if he can earn in 5 days more than your mate and many on General Haulage can earn in 6 days.
I’ve worked for PH and the issues I had with the work was not the graft but these mainly…
Poor access to shops that’s including places to park the truck with some access being beyond ridiculous. One place had a bay 5ft in the air you could not reverse onto you had to take it next to the wall/building then use the tail lift.
Shop owners dictating to you where you put each item. (May as well stuck in on shelves)
Shop owners counting everything sometimes upto 400 items.
Crap cages and poor loading of the stock in cages.
I always had the most fun delivering to Dominos pizza. The staff always had an air of arrogance about them and always looked down on you. Maybe cause we was not paid min wage to to top a pizza. But I always just dumped the stock where I deemed it to be safe regardless of what they asked which was usually in the way of a freezer or some other place that needed access to it.
muckles:
The 70’s showed the excess of the Trade Union movement, or the excess of having to much power, but you could say today it’s gone 180 degrees and now the Companies have to much power, can offer any pay and conditions and it’s take it or leave it.
There is no third way.Either the unions have the upper hand in negotiations regards terms and conditions or the employers do.While power balance obviously just means status quo.
While it would probably be fair to say that the,at best,Union solidarity lite,or at worse outright anti union strike breaking activeties,of the road transport sector at least,is in large part why the economy is in the situation of the employers now holding all the cards.
Also added to by the Unions acting like turkeys voting for Christmas.In supporting an open door immigration policy which rigs the labour market in favour of the employers.To the point of any solidarity that there might be is just a waste of time anyway.
Ive been out of work since New Year. Ive done 3 shifts with my agency this year for J41 Morrisons. Days it is £10.56 an hour which is quite good. Id love to full time there but there seem to be only certain agencies get the offers
In November Transline Logistics arm not the agency told me I had a 50 hour contract as a permanent driver based out of Whitwood. ■■■■■■■ lied to me and the contract never came through.
Since January I have signed with 5 agencies. All bullshitters. The jobs advertised do NOT exist. Theres Malcolms which are awful and pay awful, Bedfords and Downtons are the same. I was warned away from Viamaster as well.
I did a spell for Stanton Logistics in Goldthorpe. Started off great. Was £115 a day for 12 hours 4 on 4 off. I was doing 10-11 hours a day for a few month. Then it started with the ‘just nip here its only down the road’ which pushed you over 12 hours. Then it was runs to Bristol or Gloucester delivering pop for Aldi. It was over 14 hours from Goldthorpe with all the ■■■■■■■ about. Then it was Polypipe work; Start at 6am, get a run 10-11 hour run 3 hours after my start time. Final straw was picking an extra shift up and getting £64 for 8 hours.
I was happy doing Jaguar/Land rover in Normanton for DHL. Did that for a year but Milestone got took over and I was told ‘either go self employed or the PAYE rate drops £1.75 an hour’. Took it £8.75 per hour. Too much of a drop when im doing 50 hours and im being paid £87.50 a week less for the same job.
Flippin hell this is a massive devided and conquered employment sector ^
Right .i only passed my class2 sept then 1 test in november 2016 .
And i was on £14.50 ph on nights at rgf logistics
The hours were 45 approx and you got payed for 65
Plus a few pence an hour for nights .
Push came to shove and it worked out at 14.50 ish
Took home 541-555 a week …
Its not just about the basic rate .it is about bonuses etc etc.
There are well paid jobs around but £9 ph does not mean they only get that …
I only earn just over the £9ph stated, so I guess in the OP’s eyes I am wrecking the industry? Well, the job is 6/7am starts Mon-Fri, no weekends, no bank holidays, ■■■■ easy straight forward general haulage stuff with tautliners. I could jack the job in tomorrow and get a job with a higher hourly rate, theres a few supermarket DC’s in the vicinity for example, but I don’t bloody want to because they would all involve weekends, shift patterns, daft o’clock starts, weekends etc. OK, I may be working less hours but my actual take home at the end of the week would be more or less the same & my work/life balance would be worse. Somebody tell me why the hell I would chose to do that? I have found through experience doing daft shifts that your not always better off in your home life working less hours. I want to be at home every weekend & evening and not in bed at 7pm.
Somebody show me a Mon-Fri day job in the Manchester area paying over £27/28k for a basic 40/45 hour contract and i’ll apply tomorrow.
Now, if I was earning what I do whilst working shift patterns and/or doing specialised work then i’d accept any criticism, but otherwise the sneerers can ■■■■ off!
I only earn just over the £9ph stated, so I guess in the OP’s eyes I am wrecking the industry? Well, the job is 6/7am starts Mon-Fri, no weekends, no bank holidays, ■■■■ easy straight forward general haulage stuff with tautliners. I could jack the job in tomorrow and get a job with a higher hourly rate, theres a few supermarket DC’s in the vicinity for example, but I don’t bloody want to because they would all involve weekends, shift patterns, daft o’clock starts, weekends etc. OK, I may be working less hours but my actual take home at the end of the week would be more or less the same & my work/life balance would be worse. Somebody tell me why the hell I would chose to do that? I have found through experience doing daft shifts that your not always better off in your home life working less hours. I want to be at home every weekend & evening and not in bed at 7pm.
Somebody show me a Mon-Fri day job in the Manchester area paying over £27/28k for a basic 40/45 hour contract and i’ll apply tomorrow.
Now, if I was earning what I do whilst working shift patterns and/or doing specialised work then i’d accept any criticism, but otherwise the sneerers can [zb] off!
See that’s work life balance and if that works for you then fair play. But I’ve heard wages in Manchester are crap anyway. Guy I worked with at Crowfoots was on less then me doing same kind of work. Only difference was he did not drive a artic even though he had the licence. He’s about 24k a year nights. Monday night to Saturday morning.
For me personally I’ve gotta chase the money because I’ve got things I want to but like an house so for the next 3 years I can kiss my weekends goodbye. Not that I do anything on them anyway.
nearly ten years ago I decided to give up driving, at the time I was working for BOC. I had previously driven tank containers, wagon and drags and fuel tankers. I enjoyed working “inside at BOC” just over £17 an hr but last year I was made redundant and had to start hunting around for a job. I ended up driving for a large grain haulier. the basic rate was just over £8 an hour for 40 hrs then £12 something an hour after that. on a good week I could take home £450 but that was 60hrs + It was ok but I was taking that home 20 yrs ago on tank containers (yes I was away all week but it was 20 yrs ago) I got fed up of getting out of bed at 3 and 4 am so looked around for another job. A month ago I started for a local tipper company. £10 hr for first three months then £11 an hr after that. Ive never done tipper work before but after a month the job suits me perfect. start at 6.45 every day and usually done by 6. I guess we all have to find that life balance.
After a ten year break in driving the things I noticed the most were how bad the facilities at most places are for drivers and how many foreign drivers and trucks there are around . plus how can a foreign truck park up for a break on the M25 or has a new law come into force that Ive missed.
firms such as Wincanton, DHL or The Green death who can do it cheaper.
) as the manufacturing side of the co, …ie good basic rate for 40 hours, then time + a half thereafter, premium rate for weekend if on.
