You need only look at some of the half-wits driving trucks to see that many have neither the skills nor the attitude to do the job so on the grounds that the test doesn’t filter them out yes, it is too easy.
As for Rob K’s attempt at grammar enforcement, it’s always amusing when the lecturer makes an error of their own when trying to be clever…
vysie:
I want to see what we think is the hgv C and C+E to easy?
Reason i ask i took another newbie out last night albeit in a 6 wheeler not an artic i drove for close on 4.5 hrs with the idea he does the flip side of 2hrs back to ndc. Sadly after 2 miles enough was enough and i was trying to explain what had just happened to my ndc the plod etc. I said at the next lights go left and straight over the next set! On the approach to the left i said take it wide and use as much rd as you can, it didnt workout he took railings out then the gantry set of traffic lights so now were impaled on this lot. He had never used a splitter box but i explained that at 1st and thought after my last rant id stay calm and remember we all started somewhere. But after not listening and crashing is it getting to easy to get a hgv?
Can I ask what training you have had to enable you to take a new driver out and assess them?
I think in many ways the present test is harder than the test I did, but all tests do have the problem, that is they are a set of criteria the candidate has to pass, therefore the candidate is taught to pass them. I know a driving instructor that tried to teach more real world driving, but the pupils or more thier parents complained that it was taking to many lessons and thier son or daughter was ready for thier test.
I think the test does have to be pretty basic, but then their should be continuation training. Also maybe it would be better if you had to do an apprenticeship to get a vocational licence, but we have little chance of that.
As for people being cut out to drive trucks, I think this could be right. Motorsport teams quite often put various people through thier test. And then either double manning or running in convoy with a more experienced driver. In my time working for various teams I’ve worked with people that seem to grasp driving a large vehicle quickly and others who never master it. One I’ve worked with couldn’t reverse (even in a straight line he would struggle) he would then start to panic and get flustered and just forget anything he’d learned or anything I’d say to try and help. Thinking I was putting him under more stress, I’d leave him to his own devices, but the end result would be no better.
Maybe he passed his class 1 in a wagon and drag. A lot of training schools use them instead of artics as they’re a lot easier to go round a corner due to the fact the trailer doesn’t cut as much.
Conor:
Maybe he passed his class 1 in a wagon and drag. A lot of training schools use them instead of artics as they’re a lot easier to go round a corner due to the fact the trailer doesn’t cut as much.
Agreed, but it’s more the fact he seems to go to pieces as soon as he gets under pressure and forgets which way to steer. In my time I’ve helped a lot of new drivers get to grips with reversing, and they all make similar mistakes, but once you’ve given them a few pointers and they’ve done a few manoeuvres, they seem to make progress, this bloke doesn’t seem to get any better.