Help needed with bridge heights

Semtex:

TheBear:
Sounds like a bog standard double decker …

Not quite Bear, there are generally 2 heights for double deckers.
the standard height - 14’ 6" (are you sure you are not this height, that 4 " could make a difference

Or the lowbridge :open_mouth: double decker at 13’ 10". In Cornwall we usually ran the “lowbridge” Bristol VR although another firm has 14’6" leyland Olympians (aka limp-a-longs :laughing: )

Didn’t the Low-bridge decker have dropped walkways, top deck one to a side ?
If I’m right, you wouldn’t mistake it for and refer to it as a decker, without mentioning that it was a low-bridge version.
Would you ■■

The plate in the cab reads 14’6" although we have been advised that it runs at slightly higher, 14’10". We have investigated using low profile tyres to reduce our height but the body would be too low to the ground.

doubledeckerliving:
The plate in the cab reads 14’6" although we have been advised that it runs at slightly higher, 14’10". We have investigated using low profile tyres to reduce our height but the body would be too low to the ground.

If you look on the tyres, it will probably say INDIA. It doesnt mean that you have to go there.

Would it not be a good idea to properly measure the height first and stop guessing

Simon:

Semtex:

TheBear:
Sounds like a bog standard double decker …

Not quite Bear, there are generally 2 heights for double deckers.
the standard height - 14’ 6" (are you sure you are not this height, that 4 " could make a difference

Or the lowbridge :open_mouth: double decker at 13’ 10". In Cornwall we usually ran the “lowbridge” Bristol VR although another firm has 14’6" leyland Olympians (aka limp-a-longs :laughing: )

Didn’t the Low-bridge decker have dropped walkways, top deck one to a side ?
If I’m right, you wouldn’t mistake it for and refer to it as a decker, without mentioning that it was a low-bridge version.
Would you ■■

Yes some of the half cab lowbridge deckers had the sunken walkway. The VR’s though just had slightly lower roof height on both decks

doubledeckerliving:
The plate in the cab reads 14’6" although we have been advised that it runs at slightly higher

stanleytools.com/default.asp … FPOWERLOCK :open_mouth: :question: :unamused: :exclamation:

Contact Top Deck Travel and see if they can assists you, they have been taking double deckers around Europe for years.

doubledeckerliving:
Diesel dave, thanks for that link, as you saw it doesn’t mention motorhomes so I am not sure what would apply to us.

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Oh, I nearly missed this line in the link Dieseldave gave you. The one that reads
PERMISSIBLE MAXIMUM DIMENSIONS IN EUROPE.

That looks pretty clear to me.
Perhaps, if I translate, you’ll understand it a bit better?
The chart contains the information appertaining to the Maximum Permitted Dimensions of Vehicles using the roads of Europe.

The first column is a list of countries. The second column is the one you are particularly interested in, it tells you the maximum height in those countries.
After having a quick look, I noticed that the maximum height allowed in Spain is :- 4 metres
and the maximum height for France is :- Not Defined.
I also noticed that there were three numbered notes at the bottom of the page.
The numbers are used in the chart to point out that in some countries other allowances are made in some circumstances.
Both France and Spain have a reference to note 3 in the column headed Width.
So just to be on the safe side, I checked note 3.
It said :-3. refrigerated vehicles = 2.60 m.
I take it your motorhome / bus isn’t a refrigerated vehicle, so that won’t apply to you.
I also noticed that note 2 said :- 2. Increased values are applicable for certain types of transport (i.e. containers, motorcars, etc.).
I hadn’t seen a reference to note 2 for the two countries you are interested in, but I looked again just to be sure. Lo and behold there was no references to note 2 for France or Spain, but there was for Italy and Portugal… If you get around Spain OK and want to try Portugal as well, it might be worth finding out exactly what is meant by that reference. I would suspect it appertains to the transport of containers, motorcars, etc, but you might want to check on that with Convoi Exceptionnel while you’re talking to them.

Spain is definately more than 4.0 metres Simon. Most Fridges run at 4.2 and Transalliance sent all theirs down there at some time running at 4.25.

Top deck stopped using double deckers in 1996 as the european directive changed and prohibited the use of double deckers carrying more than six passengers from driving around europe. Obviously making it uneconomical for them the continue to run with the old dd’s. Read the link from diesel dave but it still didn’t mention buses or motorhomes. It does not say it applies to all road using vehicles, or did I miss something!

doubledeckerliving:
It does not say it applies to all road using vehicles, or did I miss something!

Just the fact that if you meet a 4,0 metre bridge it doesn’t matter what vehicle you are driving, if it is more than 4.0 metres it won’t fit. There are bridges over the motorway in Germany and Holland for instance which are 4.0 metres. Switzerland, most of the many tunnels on their motorway system have a 4.0 metre height limit, that’s not just a sign prohibiting vehicles over 4.0 metres, it’s a physical restriction.

doubledeckerliving:
The plate in the cab reads 14’6" although we have been advised that it runs at slightly higher, 14’10". We have investigated using low profile tyres to reduce our height but the body would be too low to the ground.