Johnny those three under lift units look like they are set up for some serious weight, is that photo taken in a ship yard.?
Dig
Aye Johnny, care to explain the working of those Cometto rollers?
Hi DIG,
I think so, but I am only guessing as the Comettos are also used at steelworks.
@Patrick - here is a short explanation of the two types:
Shipyards
Cometto SYTs are self-propelled elevating transporters having payload capacity from 100 to more than 1000 t for shipyard application. SYT is equipped with hydraulic suspension fitted with high capacity pendulum axles. A wide range of available suspension types with different payload from 32 to 45t each provides many different solutions in terms of total capacity with customized platform dimensions according to the customer requirements. The main features of SYT are electronic steering which allows easy maneuvers also in confined areas and the synchronization of 2 or more vehicles mechanically coupled or at a distance (widening mode)
Steelworks
Cometto steelworks transporters are self-propelled self-loading vehicles having payload capacity from 20 to 400t, designed for the transport of iron & steel mill products. Main features of these vehicles are: customized platform dimensions, positioning of the operator cabin over or under the loading platform, specific isolating equipment for high temperature and noise, safety protection for operators due to the harsh working condition and heavy duty-cycle typical of this application field.
Very good Herr Sutherland, you’ve finally paid attention in class… But to prove that you’ve really done your homework, a little pubquiz question… Who’s the owner of the Cometto group now… answer can be found at page 18…
Thanks Patrick Johnny DeanB those are impressive pieces of equipment but tell me the ground clearance on the floats its virtually zero is there some kind sensor system that tells the operators when to lift it for say a speed bump or such ,we wouldn’t get over a cattle grid here lol.
Good to see that mexican bloke Manwell Labour is still around.
I likes your ladies style Patrick she certainly had a firm grip on things. lol.
Tell me Jeff the fish from Karratha did you load straight off a boat i recall there was a South Aus company that had its own trawlers mother boat and freezer road trains all Macks that came into Port Headland and off landed into several road trains.They took a bit of a risk sending you up there without a bullbar on the truck.
@ MrPV The Daf was juiced to 580 hp to run like that, and while most of the terrain was mainly flat, it did the job but I wouldn’t say it liked it and it ran a bit hot for my liking. The lead trailers are 10.4 ton each as there is a massive chassis on them which allows the box to slide back to unload, and rear trailer on that one was a lead /mid road train spec @ ( if I remember ) 11.2 ton and also has a full length chassis which is unusual for an Australian fridge The reason they are so heavy is because if you can imagine a lead trailer on a road train often has the best part of 80 ton hanging of the back of for most of it’s life, and if you ever watch Out Back Truckers you may have noticed that some of the roads we are expected to drive on aren’t in the best condition…so they have to built fairly tough and heavy duty…
@ JS I used to do Tesco out of Didcott in a Leyland Road Train lol… There are a couple of drops that I do where I can get a double straight on to the dock but most towns we have to split them down and do dog runs ( solo trailers) It doesn’t really make much difference as we have to split them to unload on the docks as they are all rear door trailers… It normally goes like this… Front trailer is chill, fresh meat, dairy etc… Mid trailer is Fresh with a bit of ambient like pet food to give it a bit of weight plus the veg and fruit. Rear trailer it frozen. We usually have at least couple of stores each trip, so is an awful lot of winding legs up and down. Everything is on pallets, an Aus pallet is usually Chep and is 1150mm square and made out of hard wood and weighs about 45 kg…
Back load is usually Bananas, mangoes, berries. depending what’s in season…about 65 ton on groceries and top weight coming back
@ DIG… South Australian Seafoods have some pretty flashy boats and uses any port they can to land fish. We even do unloads for them here in Tasmania … some times Browns Slip Ways …and sometimes Bobbins… but most of the time its Tasmanian Boats that are working the Indian and Southern ocean and want there fish at certain eastern markets quick… Most of our Road Trains have Bull bars, but we’re having a bit of trouble in Vic at the moment as Vic Roads is now saying that most Bull Bars even the ones supplied by vehicle manufacturers don’t actually comply with FUPS and lighting regs which is fine for guys doing metropolitan runs, but complete Ball uks for the rest of us… Vic Transport Association has requested that if they want us to remove Bull Bars then Vic roads should have to fence all roads that trucks travel on so there is no chance of hitting wandering wild life or stock … until then stale mate…
Jelliot:
@ MrPV The Daf was juiced to 580 hp to run like that, and while most of the terrain was mainly flat, it did the job but I wouldn’t say it liked it and it ran a bit hot for my liking. The lead trailers are 10.4 ton each as there is a massive chassis on them which allows the box to slide back to unload, and rear trailer on that one was a lead /mid road train spec @ ( if I remember ) 11.2 ton and also has a full length chassis which is unusual for an Australian fridge The reason they are so heavy is because if you can imagine a lead trailer on a road train often has the best part of 80 ton hanging of the back of for most of it’s life, and if you ever watch Out Back Truckers you may have noticed that some of the roads we are expected to drive on aren’t in the best condition…so they have to built fairly tough and heavy duty…
@ JS I used to do Tesco out of Didcott in a Leyland Road Train lol… There are a couple of drops that I do where I can get a double straight on to the dock but most towns we have to split them down and do dog runs ( solo trailers) It doesn’t really make much difference as we have to split them to unload on the docks as they are all rear door trailers… It normally goes like this… Front trailer is chill, fresh meat, dairy etc… Mid trailer is Fresh with a bit of ambient like pet food to give it a bit of weight plus the veg and fruit. Rear trailer it frozen. We usually have at least couple of stores each trip, so is an awful lot of winding legs up and down. Everything is on pallets, an Aus pallet is usually Chep and is 1150mm square and made out of hard wood and weighs about 45 kg…
Back load is usually Bananas, mangoes, berries. depending what’s in season…about 65 ton on groceries and top weight coming back
@ DIG… South Australian Seafoods have some pretty flashy boats and uses any port they can to land fish. We even do unloads for them here in Tasmania … some times Browns Slip Ways …and sometimes Bobbins… but most of the time its Tasmanian Boats that are working the Indian and Southern ocean and want there fish at certain eastern markets quick… Most of our Road Trains have Bull bars, but we’re having a bit of trouble in Vic at the moment as Vic Roads is now saying that most Bull Bars even the ones supplied by vehicle manufacturers don’t actually comply with FUPS and lighting regs which is fine for guys doing metropolitan runs, but complete Ball uks for the rest of us… Vic Transport Association has requested that if they want us to remove Bull Bars then Vic roads should have to fence all roads that trucks travel on so there is no chance of hitting wandering wild life or stock … until then stale mate…
Jeff…
Hi Jelliot
thanks for the information. Very interesting how the different operations are run. I assume there must be dedicated areas outside cities for dropping your additional trailers while unloading each one.
Cheers
Johnny
DIG:
Thanks Patrick Johnny DeanB those are impressive pieces of equipment but tell me the ground clearance on the floats its virtually zero is there some kind sensor system that tells the operators when to lift it for say a speed bump or such ,we wouldn’t get over a cattle grid here lol.
Good to see that mexican bloke Manwell Labour is still around.
I likes your ladies style Patrick she certainly had a firm grip on things. lol.
Tell me Jeff the fish from Karratha did you load straight off a boat i recall there was a South Aus company that had its own trawlers mother boat and freezer road trains all Macks that came into Port Headland and off landed into several road trains.They took a bit of a risk sending you up there without a bullbar on the truck.
You would think that if you lived in a town that relied 100% on deliveries by trucks that you would welcome them… But seemingly not… In some towns for many years trucks have had a bit of waste ground on the outskirts of town where it was common place for us to split down into single trailer rigs so we could get on and out to do our local drops … But it now seems common practice by many local shires that when you get back to collect the rest of your rig you have a parking ticket waiting for you … more often than not there isn’t any kind of signage about and if you get on to the council it you’ll just hit a brick wall…
This is becoming very common place as more and more councils seem to be adopting the same tact… If it wasn’t for the fact that we have a long standing contract to oblige then there are a few communities that we would rather see the back of…
There are similar organisations here that are like the RTA and FTA but most of them are just toothless giants, and besides the local councils seem to be run by faceless bureaucrats that answer to no one.
Some places have small industrial estates of sorts, so we usually have to split there… but as for facilities… You’re camping…
Don’t get me wrong there’s still fun to be had, and there’s still a few old school drivers about… but like most places, when you go into a bigger sort of truck stop now most of the younger driver all have their noses stuck to some kind of phone and you won’t even get any kind of acknowledgement out of them…
Funny cause it’s mostly them that blog on about how the jobs gone to crap and there’s no comradely any more…
This one looks like a Liberty Truck (ex- WW I) fitted with tyres. Willème started business in improving such war surplus trucks before producing them under licence and gradually improving them until they issued the " Shark-Nose" in 1952. The picture must have been taken in Argetina, but Neyrpic is a French firm.
I remember using a trailor like on pics 1 & 2. Putting back the axle into place is a terrible bob! One has to push it by hand, and then tie a winch cable to lift the trailor’s bed.
Just been reading a bit more about the Bindoon pics (previous page) and wide loads allowed on the highway saturdays only, DIG and Jelliot may have something to add, anyway these from the Telfer goldmine.
Oily
oiltreader:
Just been reading a bit more about the Bindoon pics (previous page) and wide loads allowed on the highway saturdays only, DIG and Jelliot may have something to add, anyway these from the Telfer goldmine.
Oily
Oily I think the rules on week day wide loads only applies to the Perth metropolitan area of loads greater than 5 metres and then once clear its ok to move during the week other than peak traffic times as designated on the Permits, the last 3 years I was operating we were pulling wide loads to 3.6 metres on road trains and leaving any day during daylight hours,all oversize here is daylight hours only.
Bindoon is just north of where I live about 80kms from Perth and the Telfor mine is about 2000kms north of Perth if you travel via the main sealed Hwys but you can cut a couple of hundred off by taking the old inland road from Mt Newman to Nullagine and joining the Rippon hills rd at Marble Bar famed for being the hottest town in Aus but an unsealed road and not favoured by most.
This photo is my jigger at Telfor awaiting to unload a pretty creamy load of crates of jaws for the crushers.
The maximum gross weight for divisible loads on the US Interstate System is 36,290 kgs which can be carried on five axles. However some states have Grandfather Rights to run at higher gross weights. Since 1994, the extra weight has been controlled by the Bridge Formula Table which takes into account the number of axles and their spacing. It is supposed to stop damage to roads and bridges. Michigan and South Dakota have the most extreme examples of multi-axle trailers but several more states allow one or two extras.
ChrisArbon:
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The maximum gross weight for divisible loads on the US Interstate System is 36,290 kgs which can be carried on five axles. However some states have Grandfather Rights to run at higher gross weights. Since 1994, the extra weight has been controlled by the Bridge Formula Table which takes into account the number of axles and their spacing. It is supposed to stop damage to roads and bridges. Michigan and South Dakota have the most extreme examples of multi-axle trailers but several more states allow one or two extras.
Dean where do you find them and this time you have been around the world, top stuff.
Well done also to Chris Oily Patrick and Johnny and anybody I missed this is a great site.
There was a show on TV about a family company that specialised in the Timber industry in north america the name of the family was Pelliter I forget the name of the show but they claimed loads of timber on a single trailer of huge weights and I seem to remember 200000lbs thats close to a hundred tonnes in my book.
The row of side tipper road trains is a Darwin based company called Gulf and they have had trucks on most large mines in the north.
The white F Mack and 4 axle float with the scraper aboard belonged to a Perth West Oz company whose name escapes me at present ,nothing to do with age .The float was built by a Perth Company called Bosch Engineering. I pulled the sister to that one on odd occasions
Jelliot:
@ MrPV The Daf was juiced to 580 hp to run like that, and while most of the terrain was mainly flat, it did the job but I wouldn’t say it liked it and it ran a bit hot for my liking. The lead trailers are 10.4 ton each as there is a massive chassis on them which allows the box to slide back to unload, and rear trailer on that one was a lead /mid road train spec @ ( if I remember ) 11.2 ton and also has a full length chassis which is unusual for an Australian fridge The reason they are so heavy is because if you can imagine a lead trailer on a road train often has the best part of 80 ton hanging of the back of for most of it’s life, and if you ever watch Out Back Truckers you may have noticed that some of the roads we are expected to drive on aren’t in the best condition…so they have to built fairly tough and heavy duty…
@ JS I used to do Tesco out of Didcott in a Leyland Road Train lol… There are a couple of drops that I do where I can get a double straight on to the dock but most towns we have to split them down and do dog runs ( solo trailers) It doesn’t really make much difference as we have to split them to unload on the docks as they are all rear door trailers… It normally goes like this… Front trailer is chill, fresh meat, dairy etc… Mid trailer is Fresh with a bit of ambient like pet food to give it a bit of weight plus the veg and fruit. Rear trailer it frozen. We usually have at least couple of stores each trip, so is an awful lot of winding legs up and down. Everything is on pallets, an Aus pallet is usually Chep and is 1150mm square and made out of hard wood and weighs about 45 kg…
Back load is usually Bananas, mangoes, berries. depending what’s in season…about 65 ton on groceries and top weight coming back
@ DIG… South Australian Seafoods have some pretty flashy boats and uses any port they can to land fish. We even do unloads for them here in Tasmania … some times Browns Slip Ways …and sometimes Bobbins… but most of the time its Tasmanian Boats that are working the Indian and Southern ocean and want there fish at certain eastern markets quick… Most of our Road Trains have Bull bars, but we’re having a bit of trouble in Vic at the moment as Vic Roads is now saying that most Bull Bars even the ones supplied by vehicle manufacturers don’t actually comply with FUPS and lighting regs which is fine for guys doing metropolitan runs, but complete Ball uks for the rest of us… Vic Transport Association has requested that if they want us to remove Bull Bars then Vic roads should have to fence all roads that trucks travel on so there is no chance of hitting wandering wild life or stock … until then stale mate…
Jeff…
Cheers for the info Jeff… no need to call me MrPV though… that’s a bit upper-classy and as we all know, that’s Herr Suterlands department…
I did saw an episode or two of those outback truckers and what made me wonder was why does one want to take a bonneted wagon with a long chassis on to those dusty roads…?
DIG:
Thanks Patrick Johnny DeanB those are impressive pieces of equipment but tell me the ground clearance on the floats its virtually zero is there some kind sensor system that tells the operators when to lift it for say a speed bump or such ,we wouldn’t get over a cattle grid here lol.
Good to see that mexican bloke Manwell Labour is still around.
I likes your ladies style Patrick she certainly had a firm grip on things. lol.
Tell me Jeff the fish from Karratha did you load straight off a boat i recall there was a South Aus company that had its own trawlers mother boat and freezer road trains all Macks that came into Port Headland and off landed into several road trains.They took a bit of a risk sending you up there without a bullbar on the truck.
Cheers Dig
Sorry DIG, don’t know about any sensors.
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Well, it seems you haven’t done your homework then Johnny… and you haven’t answered the pubquiz question…
It’s a fairly simple system DIG, there’s a powerpack on board all the modules to provide power to the hydraulic suspension system and provides the traction as well. The SPMT’s pictured are the old ones from the first series, the newer ones are all remote control operated, so much easier to operate and more view clearance.
oiltreader:
Just been reading a bit more about the Bindoon pics (previous page) and wide loads allowed on the highway saturdays only, DIG and Jelliot may have something to add, anyway these from the Telfer goldmine.
Oily
Bit odd to see a Renault Magnum working at the other side of the world… Cheers for the pic’s Oily
We don’t even have exercise of changing gears these days.
Cheers for the pic’s Oily