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What was originally under the bonnet DIG?
A Leyland 690 Patrick the early model that had the turbo mounted at the rear of the engine block where it could cook everything including the drivers feet,the heat build up was that intense as the Hippo firewall trapped the heat with little airflow,the engine in mine had seized on the rear main a fairly common problem with that model the later models had the turbo mounted in the middle of the exhaust manifold as per ■■■■■■■ /Cat etc and did a reasonable job as long as an oil cooler was fitted.
Dig
Cheers DIG, I take it a heater wasn’t needed then…? No wonder all those truckies only wear flip flops! Ahum… coat…
Thongs, we called 'em, and before you wince, that is a direct translation.
pv83:
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What was originally under the bonnet DIG?
A Leyland 690 Patrick the early model that had the turbo mounted at the rear of the engine block where it could cook everything including the drivers feet,the heat build up was that intense as the Hippo firewall trapped the heat with little airflow,the engine in mine had seized on the rear main a fairly common problem with that model the later models had the turbo mounted in the middle of the exhaust manifold as per ■■■■■■■ /Cat etc and did a reasonable job as long as an oil cooler was fitted.
Dig
Cheers DIG, I take it a heater wasn’t needed then…? No wonder all those truckies only wear flip flops! Ahum… coat…
Thongs, we called 'em, and before you wince, that is a direct translation.
The top picture is not of a driver walking around his stationary wagon, he would never stop on a ‘jump up’ (unless it wouldn’t make it and he was uncoupling some trailers to do a relay), the 2nd driver is at the wheel with it in lo-lo and the main man has time to walk around the whole train checking tyres. Way to go.
He does seem a tad overdressed though.
BTW, that is the ‘air conditioned’ sleeper on top of the cab.
Punchy Dan:
Thank you PV I’am not doing too bad for pilots at the min .
The mercs a V6 never again I should not have sold the 5 pot
Having troubles with the engine? Is the 5 potter still on offer? Not in the same league, but I’ve owned two Volvo V70’s (the flying brick) fitted with a 5 cylinder engine, originally designed by Audi, in combination with a bit of Swedish steel it was absolute bulletproof! And good on fuel consumption too, still regret selling them…
Spardo:
The top picture is not of a driver walking around his stationary wagon, he would never stop on a ‘jump up’ (unless it wouldn’t make it and he was uncoupling some trailers to do a relay), the 2nd driver is at the wheel with it in lo-lo and the main man has time to walk around the whole train checking tyres. Way to go.
He does seem a tad overdressed though.
BTW, that is the ‘air conditioned’ sleeper on top of the cab.
Can’t even imagine doing that in the boiling heat David, owt above 25 C and I’m already knackered!
Punchy Dan:
Thank you PV I’am not doing too bad for pilots at the min .
The mercs a V6 never again I should not have sold the 5 pot
Having troubles with the engine? Is the 5 potter still on offer? Not in the same league, but I’ve owned two Volvo V70’s (the flying brick) fitted with a 5 cylinder engine, originally designed by Audi, in combination with a bit of Swedish steel it was absolute bulletproof! And good on fuel consumption too, still regret selling them…
Not had any issues yet just the whole thing is horrible,the 5 pot finished in 2006 of which I had one of the last ones new before the digi tacho came out .
I had a 5 pot Audi yrs ago .
Like you say bulletproof though .
Couple more photo’s from the Stockton archives of a Sunters movement , first one crossing the river Tees between Stockton and Thornaby second one going under bridge in Stockton on Portrack Lane.
Our thongs[flip flops isn’t that horrible terminology] were renamed here as "Japanese Riding Boots much more acceptable in the world of H and S.
I have to admit in later years i drove mainly bare footed although the slip on rig boots were kept close to the drivers door easy to slip on for what ever reason a dismount was needed.
Also I never got out of the habit of the singlet and shorts attire still do on long journeys the mandatory High Viz shirt also ready for wear
but they haven’t found a skin cancer repellant with all the parfenalia one is forced to wear these days,when i worked for Tolls they issued short sleeve shirts and shorts might as well wear a singlet.
Dig
I worked on some of these PMG [Post Master Generals]trucks at Leylands Perth branch 1970ish one was a LAD cabbed Hippo and the other an Ergomatic unit that had thrown a fan blade at a place called Meckering which was devastated by an earth quake in the late 60s and the truck was involved in moving earth moving units around to fix the line both trucks pulled low loaders and were involved in laying/maintaining the co axial cable from the eastern states to West Aus.
{ I was ■■■■■■■■ myself when laying underneath affecting a repair waiting for the earth to swallow me up.]
just for the unfamiliar the Leyland Buffalo had 3 vent strip breathers above the butterfly bonnet hinge and the Super Hippo only 2.
Spardo:
The top picture is not of a driver walking around his stationary wagon, he would never stop on a ‘jump up’ (unless it wouldn’t make it and he was uncoupling some trailers to do a relay), the 2nd driver is at the wheel with it in lo-lo and the main man has time to walk around the whole train checking tyres. Way to go.
He does seem a tad overdressed though.
BTW, that is the ‘air conditioned’ sleeper on top of the cab.
Can’t even imagine doing that in the boiling heat David, owt above 25 C and I’m already knackered!
I still can’t get my head round that picture, years after seeing it for the first time. It is obviously hot, with both windscreens open, and yet that bloke is wandering around at least 7 trailers (by my count) in a full one piece boilersuit. Unbelieveable
And to Dig, how did you stand driving barefoot? I always found the pedals way too hot for that and was never without a strip of rubber between me and them. I worked with a bloke in Queensland (Sarina) for the MRD (Main Roads Department) on a road improvement scheme out in the bush. I was driving a roller (not a car, a machine for making things flat ) and he was on the grader. Fresh out of a long stay in hospital after he had rolled his car and was very badly injured, he said he had been wearing thongs and on a bad corner got tangled with the accelerator when going for the brake. He told me how the police visited him in hospital after he came round to serve him a summons for the offence of forbidden footwear.
DIG:
I worked on some of these PMG [Post Master Generals]trucks at Leylands Perth branch 1970ish one was a LAD cabbed Hippo and the other an Ergomatic unit that had thrown a fan blade at a place called Meckering which was devastated by an earth quake in the late 60s and the truck was involved in moving earth moving units around to fix the line both trucks pulled low loaders and were involved in laying/maintaining the co axial cable from the eastern states to West Aus.
{ I was ■■■■■■■■ myself when laying underneath affecting a repair waiting for the earth to swallow me up.]
just for the unfamiliar the Leyland Buffalo had 3 vent strip breathers above the butterfly bonnet hinge and the Super Hippo only 2.
Dig
Speaking of fan blades Dig , we had a batch of Buffalo (600 Leyland )about that time when Leyland thought plastic fans were the way to go . They went alright , mostly through the radiator in bits .
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Speaking of fan blades Dig , we had a batch of Buffalo (600 Leyland )about that time when Leyland thought plastic fans were the way to go . They went alright , mostly through the radiator in bits .
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Same problem Rigsby totally unsuited for aus conditions with a crank mounted fan which were prone to as you say decimating the radiators.
Dig
Wasn’t this truck Yohansens Diamond T David and if that was soon after sunup around the centre of Aus in July I reckon it would have been about 4 degrees but the truck would have been coming to the boil nicely with that load hanging off kingpin…
I didn’t start driving barefooted until KW days the old Hippo would melted the soles off my boots let alone the bare feet.I knew a couple of blokes one a Buntine legend who never wore any thing on the feet regardless of where or why,can’t get summons for inappropriate foot wear if you aren’t wearing anything and on that subject.
I recall and old station friend arriving to persuade me to go to the local for a quite ale or 3 one saturday arvo when we got there a notice on the garden bar door said no thongs no singlets allowed so we left our thongs and singlets at the door and fronted up to the bar and we left at stumps about 9 hours later nothing was said so obviously we had complied with the rules.
jshepguis:
Couple more photo’s from the Stockton archives of a Sunters movement , first one crossing the river Tees between Stockton and Thornaby second one going under bridge in Stockton on Portrack Lane.
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Ta mate, looks pretty wide to me Any ideas where it was going to?
In Germany it’s strictly forbidden to drive with just bare feet, they’ve got some scientific formula that with shoes on, in case of emergency braking, the applied pressure on the brake pedal is much bigger than with bare feet (maybe Johnny knows more about this?). Flip flops or anything else that might come loose in such a situation is all banned, if caught one could be fined for it.
I quite like the term “Japanese riding boots” though DIG
Speaking of fan blades Dig , we had a batch of Buffalo (600 Leyland )about that time when Leyland thought plastic fans were the way to go . They went alright , mostly through the radiator in bits .
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Same problem Rigsby totally unsuited for aus conditions with a crank mounted fan which were prone to as you say decimating the radiators.
Dig
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A colleague of mine was driving a MAN plated for 250t, I think he was in Italy when it happened, long story short, he was going uphill in summertime with quite a heavy load when the fan came off and re-modelled the engine hump along some parts… his ankle was bruised for some time too…
DIG:
Wasn’t this truck Yohansens Diamond T David and if that was soon after sunup around the centre of Aus in July I reckon it would have been about 4 degrees but the truck would have been coming to the boil nicely with that load hanging off kingpin…
It could have been mate, he was a pioneer inventing road trains at the time, but the chapter the picture comes from was devoted to Dave Baldock so I reckon he would be favourite. Although he had a driver at the wheel in this case, before the war when many of the tracks were deeply rutted, he was able to set the hand throttle and have a kip just as if he was running on rails.
The Diamond T would be American army surplus amongst many abandonned in the Teritory after the war and pounced upon cheaply by the pioneers to improve their businesses. Perhaps the number on the bumper, 901, was a military designation which was allowed to be carried over as a reg no. Not much law in the Territory in those days, and for years afterwards. I can’t remember when HGV licences came in in the UK, but whatever licence it was that I had at the time in '67, I was allowed to swap it without any test or question for what they were pleased to designate a ‘Lorry Licence’, which allowed me to drive anything, including of course, road trains.
They wouldn’t wear it in Sydney though, if your licence didn’t have the words ‘semi-trailer’ on it, it was for cars. Or, presumably rigids, because I did drive a parcel van for Yellow Express for a time.
pv83:
In Germany it’s strictly forbidden to drive with just bare feet, they’ve got some scientific formula that with shoes on, in case of emergency braking, the applied pressure on the brake pedal is much bigger than with bare feet (maybe Johnny knows more about this?). Flip flops or anything else that might come loose in such a situation is all banned, if caught one could be fined for it.
I quite like the term “Japanese riding boots” though DIG
Pretty sure something similar in France too, Patrick, in fact I have been warned unofficially that the wooden soled clogs I wear for any journeys over an hour might be suspect too, though some have said that if they had backs to them it might be ok. Come to think of it, I have some totally wooden French ones that do have a little lip at the back, might try them instead.
A colleague of mine was driving a MAN plated for 250t, I think he was in Italy when it happened, long story short, he was going uphill in summertime with quite a heavy load when the fan came off and re-modelled the engine hump along some parts… his ankle was bruised for some time too…
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That would have been scary at least with a bonneted truck your a bit farther away.
I lost a blade on the Titan 3hours north of Perth on my way home it put a large hole in the radiator I took off what was left of the fan pinched the rad core tubes with pliers purchased a dozen eggs and a large pot of black pepper from a roadhouse 5 kms from where I was dropped it all in the rad it didn’t leak so I drove home.
No wonder all those truckies only wear flip flops! Ahum… coat…
