Good evening to you all,
This is what happens when it goes wrong!!
m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QFA1vcS3-M
Ed
oiltreader:
Posted this on the Timber thread a while back, Hayes logging trucks with max loads and right at the end of the clip the gear change.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z3cQjuWXGlU
Oily
What kind of gearbox here? In ther following report, they mention either Spicer 5x5 or Allison automatic, but it looks the driver is double-clutching. Strange gear stick too.
Froggy55:
oiltreader:
Posted this on the Timber thread a while back, Hayes logging trucks with max loads and right at the end of the clip the gear change.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z3cQjuWXGlU
OilyWhat kind of gearbox here? In ther following report, they mention either Spicer 5x5 or Allison automatic, but it looks the driver is double-clutching. Strange gear stick too.
The shift is a gate-change, like Scammells used to have (encourages sequential non-skip changes, much beloved of North Americans). The 'box will be a normal manual constant-mesh box I think. Someone’ll put us right! ro
With reference to the article by Nils Jannsen on the Hayes logger ‘Angels Playmate’, The late Martin Phippard and Peter Connock made a video of this back in 1991 titled ‘Angels Playmate’.
ERF-NGC-European:
Froggy55:
oiltreader:
Posted this on the Timber thread a while back, Hayes logging trucks with max loads and right at the end of the clip the gear change.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z3cQjuWXGlU
OilyWhat kind of gearbox here? In ther following report, they mention either Spicer 5x5 or Allison automatic, but it looks the driver is double-clutching. Strange gear stick too.
The shift is a gate-change, like Scammells used to have (encourages sequential non-skip changes, much beloved of North Americans). The 'box will be a normal manual constant-mesh box I think. Someone’ll put us right! ro
Certainly a gate change, like my old Highwayman (though a rather smaller example) but as to it being a manual or not, I don’t know, didn’t buses used to have a similar, semi-automatic, set-up?
Same outfit off Pinterest with triple as mentioned in Dean’s post.
Oily
Spardo:
ERF-NGC-European:
Froggy55:
oiltreader:
Posted this on the Timber thread a while back, Hayes logging trucks with max loads and right at the end of the clip the gear change.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z3cQjuWXGlU
OilyWhat kind of gearbox here? In ther following report, they mention either Spicer 5x5 or Allison automatic, but it looks the driver is double-clutching. Strange gear stick too.
The shift is a gate-change, like Scammells used to have (encourages sequential non-skip changes, much beloved of North Americans). The 'box will be a normal manual constant-mesh box I think. Someone’ll put us right! ro
Certainly a gate change, like my old Highwayman (though a rather smaller example) but as to it being a manual or not, I don’t know, didn’t buses used to have a similar, semi-automatic, set-up?
Great clip Oily, cheers 
I was thinking along the lines that it could be a Allison semi-automatic gearbox?
Somewhere in the article Dean has posted (ta mate ) it says that the drive train could cope with 90.000 up to 130.000lbs, in normal language that would mean 40 to 58t! Impressive indeed, bearing in mind that they drove on those dirt tracks all the time…
oiltreader:
Same outfit off Pinterest with triple as mentioned in Dean’s post.
Oily
DIG must be going berserk after seeing this Oily 
Spardo:
pv83:
Nice article about Kaye Goodfellow, what happened to them in the end?Indeed, and where does the Kaye come in? Was that his own first name? I always assumed there was a Mr. Kaye at some point.
He wasn’t far wrong on the 50mph point though was he, 56 now, near as dammit?
Was confused at first as to why his dedication to Guys was featured in the Leyland Journal, then the penny dropped, Guy was bought by Jaguar, and Jaguar…
I seem to recollect that Kaye Goodfellow was the wife David,not overly sure but something in my dim and distant past reminds me of such.
On a side issue David,David Goodfellow was a Director of McKelvie Transport and the Manchester depot manager,when he left to start up his own crane hire company,he used to park his cranes in McKelvie’s Manchester depot,which by sheer coincidence was purchased by SoM for their Manchester depot.
Kaye Goodfellow ceased trading January 1991.
Stay well.
David
EDTRUCK:
Good evening to you all,This is what happens when it goes wrong!!
m.youtube.com/watch?v=9QFA1vcS3-M
Ed
90% stupidity of the ones involved… 
Watching that clip reminds me of my first trip to Romania, the three of us had to offload frames with a conveyor belt in it, coupled together it was some sort of production line, can’t really remember what is was for though. Anyway, the frames weight about 15 to 20t and the crane that supposedly was going to offload us looked like something that was designed and build by the Soviets shortly after the war ended. A lot of noise and smoke, but not much happening. I was the first one to get under the crane, and the crane driver asked about the weight, so I told him, and he made a gesture saying that that wasn’t going to be a problem for his “mighty” crane… So, lifting chains attached, he pulled away and… nothing happened. So he made another attempt, this resulting in even more noise and black smoke, and he was really going for it, as the legs of the crane on one side were up in the air! And not just by a few mm, but nearly 1m! So after a lot of shouting, he too realised it wasn’t going to happen, so a Kobelco digger that was on site had to come to help, the crane lifted the frame on one side, the Kobelco the other side, job done.
pv83:
Stoof/Mammoet from back in the day
Synchronising gear shifting with pairs of ex-WW II wreckers must have needed great skill!
Froggy55:
pv83:
Stoof/Mammoet from back in the daySynchronising gear shifting with pairs of ex-WW II wreckers must have needed great skill!
Now I don’t know, never having double-headed myself, but with crash boxes I would have thought you found the highest starting gear and then stuck to it until you got it rolling on a flat smooth surface then changed gear one at a time, the non changing unit keeping the momentum going until it was his turn to change up. It isn’t as if you would suddenly come upon a steep descent or ascent, presumably someone would have planned the route in advance.
Now is that the way to do it, or all nonsense. 
5thwheel:
Spardo:
pv83:
Nice article about Kaye Goodfellow, what happened to them in the end?Indeed, and where does the Kaye come in? Was that his own first name? I always assumed there was a Mr. Kaye at some point.
He wasn’t far wrong on the 50mph point though was he, 56 now, near as dammit?
Was confused at first as to why his dedication to Guys was featured in the Leyland Journal, then the penny dropped, Guy was bought by Jaguar, and Jaguar…
I seem to recollect that Kaye Goodfellow was the wife David,not overly sure but something in my dim and distant past reminds me of such.
On a side issue David,David Goodfellow was a Director of McKelvie Transport and the Manchester depot manager,when he left to start up his own crane hire company,he used to park his cranes in McKelvie’s Manchester depot,which by sheer coincidence was purchased by SoM for their Manchester depot.
Kaye Goodfellow ceased trading January 1991.Stay well.
David
Thank you for that interesting infornmation, David. It did seem strange that throughout that article they only referred to him as Mr. Goodfellow, and no mention of a partner. Never known a Kay with an ‘e’ before though.
Thanks too for the good wishes, we are ok at the moment, hunkered down with only 2 outings a week to the shops and market, but I can get out with the dog, and on my new trike
damius.com/en/evasion-elect … cycle.html
for one hour a day within a 1 km radius. As we are out in the wilds it is not difficult keeping to the law.
We hear all about Spain and Italy here (in fact I got out of Italy with 2 dogs just before the virus hit there) but nothing at all about Portugal. I hope that means it is not so serious there. You stay safe too.
Spardo:
5thwheel:
Spardo:
pv83:
Nice article about Kaye Goodfellow, what happened to them in the end?Indeed, and where does the Kaye come in? Was that his own first name? I always assumed there was a Mr. Kaye at some point.
He wasn’t far wrong on the 50mph point though was he, 56 now, near as dammit?
Was confused at first as to why his dedication to Guys was featured in the Leyland Journal, then the penny dropped, Guy was bought by Jaguar, and Jaguar…
I seem to recollect that Kaye Goodfellow was the wife David,not overly sure but something in my dim and distant past reminds me of such.
On a side issue David,David Goodfellow was a Director of McKelvie Transport and the Manchester depot manager,when he left to start up his own crane hire company,he used to park his cranes in McKelvie’s Manchester depot,which by sheer coincidence was purchased by SoM for their Manchester depot.
Kaye Goodfellow ceased trading January 1991.Stay well.
David
Thank you for that interesting infornmation, David. It did seem strange that throughout that article they only referred to him as Mr. Goodfellow, and no mention of a partner. Never known a Kay with an ‘e’ before though.
Thanks too for the good wishes, we are ok at the moment, hunkered down with only 2 outings a week to the shops and market, but I can get out with the dog, and on my new trike
damius.com/en/evasion-elect … cycle.html
for one hour a day within a 1 km radius. As we are out in the wilds it is not difficult keeping to the law.
We hear all about Spain and Italy here (in fact I got out of Italy with 2 dogs just before the virus hit there) but nothing at all about Portugal. I hope that means it is not so serious there. You stay safe too.
Portugal has a population of around 10.5 million,very scattered,well up in the Serra’s or mountains,where we live there are cases in central Portugal,not many,the main virus infection areas are the large towns and cities,Portugal is,I think number 20 in the world virus rating,once again it’s just about being sensible and washing hands,common sense WILL prevail.
Take care,stay safe.
David
Hi Patrick i know you did ask how my uncle was keeping a couple of pages back ,well he is ok and here is a couple taken at Llandudno a couple of years ago driving another FTF.
This was taken at Fraserburgh quick way of getting the empty reel off the lay vessel and out of the way of other work on the quayside.
Spardo:
Froggy55:
pv83:
Stoof/Mammoet from back in the daySynchronising gear shifting with pairs of ex-WW II wreckers must have needed great skill!
Now I don’t know, never having double-headed myself, but with crash boxes I would have thought you found the highest starting gear and then stuck to it until you got it rolling on a flat smooth surface then changed gear one at a time, the non changing unit keeping the momentum going until it was his turn to change up. It isn’t as if you would suddenly come upon a steep descent or ascent, presumably someone would have planned the route in advance.
Now is that the way to do it, or all nonsense.
Definitely Spardo. Alternate gear changes between front and back units; made easier with the help of CB radio and nowadays with cell phone headsets.
ChrisArbon:
Spardo:
Froggy55:
pv83:
Stoof/Mammoet from back in the daySynchronising gear shifting with pairs of ex-WW II wreckers must have needed great skill!
Now I don’t know, never having double-headed myself, but with crash boxes I would have thought you found the highest starting gear and then stuck to it until you got it rolling on a flat smooth surface then changed gear one at a time, the non changing unit keeping the momentum going until it was his turn to change up. It isn’t as if you would suddenly come upon a steep descent or ascent, presumably someone would have planned the route in advance.
Now is that the way to do it, or all nonsense.
Definitely Spardo. Alternate gear changes between front and back units; made easier with the help of CB radio and nowadays with cell phone headsets.
I think I’ve read somewhere (maybe in one of the articles Dean has posted) that back in the day, some lads of the crew told the driver when to shift?