Guy

Retired Old ■■■■:
Trailer manufacturers-
Taskers were at Andover (now superceded by Andover Trailers)
Highway Trailers (GB) ltd were at Dereham, Norfolk, I believe taken over by Crane Fruehauf?
When the “Old Firm” eventually went into artics in the 1960s most of the trailers were single axle Highways, with a couple of York single axles, all pulled by Bedford TKs with the 330 engine. It wasn’t until the early 70s, if memory serves me, that ERF tractor units were purchased and some York tandems came into the fleet.

Are you feeding me a “bum steer” ROF as is your won’t from time to time ? When did Crane Fruehauf take over Highway Trailers ? I just thought they shut down at Highway along with other smaller trailer builders in the UK. Cheers Dennis.

The Crane Fruehauf factory in Dereham collapsed in 2005, laying off its remaining 345 workers. With it an important chapter in Norfolk’s industrial history came to an abrupt end. The site of the first Crane factory known as ‘Crane Corner’ in little Fransham is nw home to the Fransham Forge run by Nigel Barnett an extremely talented blacksmith. He has opened a gallery of his work on site, as well as a museum of Crane’s memorabilia. Nigel is more than happy to help out with any iron work connected with cart or shepherd hut reconstruction and can also fabricate itens like Shepherd hut wheels.
Subsidiaries / take overs.
Boden Trailers Ltd - 1967
Crane Fruehauf Trailers (North Walsham) Ltd - JV between Crane, Fruehauf, and Wall Engineering.
Dennison Trailers of Ireland - 1967 - 51 % stake acquired & 100% in 1975
Created Rentco Nationwide Ltd to lease trailers - 1970
t/o Imperial Coach builders - 1971
create Crane Fruehauf Iran Ltd - 1975
t/o Abel Bodywork of Oldham - 1977

Highway Commercial & Trailer Spares Ltd are now possibly owned by owned by King Group.

Cheers Dave.

Hiya Dave,hope you are both keeping well and looking forward to Christmas,thanks for the info on CF’s I knew they went out of business a while after I used to deal with them,I’ve been their guest on a number of occaisions in the early/mid 90’s when I had stopped buying TASK trailers after those tossers at Montracon closed the factory at ■■■■■■■■■■■ and I had renewed my aquaintence with Crane Fruehauf.I believe that ROF is correct (that’s a ■■■■■■■■ as it seemed that CF did aquire the Highway Trailer Co. and the firm you mention is an entirely different firm mainly concerned with selling spares from Chelmsford.Cranes gave me a book on their history " We built Trailers" I think it is called and it was written by one of the origional family.Cheers Dennis.

Bewick:
Hiya Dave,hope you are both keeping well and looking forward to Christmas,thanks for the info on CF’s I knew they went out of business a while after I used to deal with them,I’ve been their guest on a number of occaisions in the early/mid 90’s when I had stopped buying TASK trailers after those tossers at Montracon closed the factory at ■■■■■■■■■■■ and I had renewed my aquaintence with Crane Fruehauf.I believe that ROF is correct (that’s a ■■■■■■■■ as it seemed that CF did aquire the Highway Trailer Co. and the firm you mention is an entirely different firm mainly concerned with selling spares from Chelmsford.Cranes gave me a book on their history " We built Trailers" I think it is called and it was written by one of the origional family.Cheers Dennis.

You are probably right Dennis. I cheated, and looked it up on Wikipedia. Happy Christmas.Tracy likes the festive season, but I’m like Scrooge
" Bah Humbug ". :laughing:
Cheers Dave.

“And they shoot Reindeer in Radnorshire” especially those with red noses and pulling sleds,also carol singers I believe !! Cheers Eddie the Elf :cry:

Bewick:
“And they shoot Reindeer in Radnorshire” especially those with red noses and pulling sleds,also carol singers I believe !! Cheers Eddie the Elf :cry:

I could put up with Reindeer, but not bloody carol singers squalling at the door, and letting the heat out of the building. I will just pay them to stay away, or cable tie the gates :exclamation: :imp: :laughing:

Good Dave a man after my own heart as they say. Aye I would cancel the bloody thing anytime. Eddie.

Highway trailers were built at Eastleigh near Southampton (Where Eastleigh airport is now). Smiths bought a lot of 40 footer spread axle (most with double wheels a few with S.S.) and the lightweight 33 ft with the super singles. The photo of Smiths with the 33ft loaded with drums is a Southampton motor. They used a lot of alloy for the raves / headboards and cross beams, plus a wooden deck that was also very light, not traditional heavy timbers, good for payload.
First load out of Union Carbide that l did on one of those lightweights bounced around so much that the drums all shifted to the nearside, had to stop at Banbury and restack them, I never got on with those trailers, in fact l hated them.
The 40ft spreads were Ok, but because they were also light they tended to bow a bit and if not loaded properly would, in conjuntion with the spread axles, give an interesting ride to say the least, they were better with the twin wheels though.
They were a good govenors trailer as compaired to the likes of Boden they could carry a fair bit more…Got a couple of pic’s of a 40 ft, will dig 'em out.

Many thanks for that most comprehensive explanation re. Highway Trailers Dave :smiley: :wink: I knew you’d come up trumps once you concentrated your mind on more important items on TN ! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: By the sound of it those Highway trailers were “a bridge to far” so to speak with regard to their extremely lightweight construction which I guess didn’t make for a long operational life.Some modern curtainsiders suffer from similar problems with the manufactures taking weight saving beyond sensible boundaries but the big outfits only want the length of the lease deal out of these trailers then they hand them back but by this time they are more-or-less knackered so they are knocked out at rock bottom prices.Cheers Dennis.

Bewick:
Many thanks for that most comprehensive explanation re. Highway Trailers Dave :smiley: :wink: I knew you’d come up trumps once you concentrated your mind on more important items on TN ! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: By the sound of it those Highway trailers were “a bridge to far” so to speak with regard to their extremely lightweight construction which I guess didn’t make for a long operational life.Some modern curtainsiders suffer from similar problems with the manufactures taking weight saving beyond sensible boundaries but the big outfits only want the length of the lease deal out of these trailers then they hand them back but by this time they are more-or-less knackered so they are knocked out at rock bottom prices.Cheers Dennis.

Den…not sure as it’s over 40 years ago, but I THINK that the 33’ lightweights were almost a ton lighter than the 33’ Bodens which Smiths also had quite a few, the Boden being my favorite trailer, solid as a rock…

Here are a few photo’s of two 40’ spread axle Highway trailers, and by coincidence happen to be pulled by Guys…

Fergie47:
Here are a few photo’s of two 40’ spread axle Highway trailers, and by coincidence happen to be pulled by Guys

Thank god for that!
Thought this had turned into a trailer thread! :unamused:

moomooland:

Fergie47:
Here are a few photo’s of two 40’ spread axle Highway trailers, and by coincidence happen to be pulled by Guys

Thank god for that!
Thought this had turned into a trailer thread! :unamused:

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Blame Bewick…he told me to… :unamused:

Bewick:
I believe that ROF is correct (that’s a ■■■■■■■■ as it seemed that CF did aquire the Highway Trailer Co. and the firm you mention is an entirely different firm mainly concerned with selling spares from Chelmsford.Cheers Dennis.

I’ve just put a mark on the calendar, a note in my diary and run a flag up the pole at ROF Towers- Dennis has admitted that I’m correct, for once! :unamused:
It was just an educated guess that CF had taken over the Highway design and order books (probably not the factory) as the last address for Highway Trailers (G.B.) Ltd is the same as the last address for CF in Norfolk. Sometimes I get lucky!
Speaking of light trailers (pushing the boundaries of the “Guy” thread!), Praill’s, the commercial dealers in Hereford, manufactured Fleet trailers, which were really lightweight and were aimed at the South Wales steel hauliers with coil wells and T-section side raves (straps & ratchets were just starting to be used). Some users found that the chassis needed flitch plates welding in after a while but most found that as long as the trailer was loaded properly there were no problems. Unfortunately they couldn’t sell enough to make the project worthwhile.

Fergie47:

Bewick:
Many thanks for that most comprehensive explanation re. Highway Trailers Dave :smiley: :wink: I knew you’d come up trumps once you concentrated your mind on more important items on TN ! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: By the sound of it those Highway trailers were “a bridge to far” so to speak with regard to their extremely lightweight construction which I guess didn’t make for a long operational life.Some modern curtainsiders suffer from similar problems with the manufactures taking weight saving beyond sensible boundaries but the big outfits only want the length of the lease deal out of these trailers then they hand them back but by this time they are more-or-less knackered so they are knocked out at rock bottom prices.Cheers Dennis.

Den…not sure as it’s over 40 years ago, but I THINK that the 33’ lightweights were almost a ton lighter than the 33’ Bodens which Smiths also had quite a few, the Boden being my favorite trailer, solid as a rock…

Here are a few photo’s of two 40’ spread axle Highway trailers, and by coincidence happen to be pulled by Guys…

Great shots of a fine transport firm Dave,however,can I take issue with you on the standard of sheeting and roping on the second shot ! :blush: had you just removed a bit of “gear”,“plunder” or similar and hadn’t tidied the corner up at the time ? :open_mouth: Seriously,I can claim MR.James as a friend as I got to know him by chance from meeting him at the Earls Court commercial motor show in around '72 and he used to give be a “bell” occaisionally when he was on his way north on the M6 and I would meet him at Burton Services for a brew for an hour or more.He had retired from SOM by the mid '70’s and I was just building up our operation,but he sure was an interesting chap to talk to about the years he and his brother Alex were building up SOM I couldn’t relate all the stories he told me as it was so long ago,but talk about “learning at the feet of the master” SOM were surely the greatest Scottish Transport firm of all time,well they were to me anyway !! Cheers Dennis.

Evening all, missed quite a lot… and do not have free time to catch up as yet!

Sadly my mom, having really settled here at the farm, and seeming to enjoy her new life in the converted “Pig Sty”, suffered a fall, (those of you with elderly moms know the “horrible” procedure…Paramedics, A&E, assesment, and all that follows)…thankfully we (argued), and insisted that she be taken to New Cross at Wolverhampton, rather than Princess Royal at Telford…or heaven protect us that operation at Stafford…where the same standards, or lack of them, persist under a “rebranded” name, (why does no one insist that commercial standards of management be applied in the Health, (■■?), service), … make accountable the (cruel), wrong doers, and ship them out!..too PC. and just too frrigtned to be truly “accountable”. But considering she is 95, I, (nor no one else), could complain about the help she is being given in Wolverhampton,…truly she is being treated as well as my daughter was as a gravely injured 25 year old…and by staff as culturally, and ethnically diverse as could ever have been imagined, a truly humbling and gratifying experience, (whatever the outcome)…

But may I offer a few words of background to Highway-Multiwheeler Trailers, whose major client was J&A Smith, of Maddiston by Falkirk, a company that I grew to know very well, and a major Guy user.

Fergie is right , the old airport at Eastleigh was the manufacturing base, but did you realise that their background lay in the original Multi Wheeler Company, who manufactured under licence the load transfer trailer designs of the French manufacturer Chenard Walcker, and designs of Rochert Schneider.

Highway were a very forward thinking company, they specialised in designs that were anything but standard! The very first, (Gerald Broadbent), designed “Tautliner” body, (with curtains by “Pac A Mac”), was built on a single axle Highway trailer for Louis Reece. Given as a gift to the Science Musuem…does she still exist I wonder?

The "Super Lightweights were as Fergie says, “bouncy”! Boy they should be, given the specification. Mainly aluminium, with pierced mainframes, and composite ply decks, spread axles slipper sprung, riding on “balloon” single wheels produced specially by Avon, designed to give a 22 ton payload at 28 tons gross behind Guy Big J AEC powered 28 ton tractor…See the thinking…save on road tax, but the same payload as a 32 ton outfit! But behind a 32 ton unit an extra 2 tons of payload!

The spread axle Highways on Fergies pictures are “early” models, the rear undr run bar does not curve upwards as became standard on later versions, (Fergies picture of the Mac MacDonald outfit refers).

But Highways real strength lay in Coil Carriers, and their top selling salesman was South Wales “Coil Carrier King”, Lew Lewis. Stronger, and lighter than the equivelent M&G, and totally outclassing anything produced by those people at Crane, most Welsh and Scottish Coil fleets liked the Highway product.

Lew based himself at Stan Ross`s, (Ross Roadways), Penarth Rd, Cardiff operation, where on inumerble occasions, Stan, and Lew would ply this young Blackcountryman with strong liquor…and send me on my way back to the midlands in charge of some worn out piece of South Wales equipment,sometimes lugging behind a fairly new, (or not so new) product of Highways factory…which never failed to sell at a handsome margin to some Blackcountry “steel man”!!..(which is more than could be said for the results achieved with the tractor units…how did they ever get me back home ■■?

Boalloy, and Highway marketed the Tautliner concept originally only on Highway trailer frames only, and produced a demonstrator trailer…a 40 ft single axle…oh what joy they were to lug around…do you remember what fun they were to manouever in an urban situation…or in a “works”…Imanaged , (with great skill, and panache), to wedge this trailer right across the loading bays at Birminghams Davenport Brewery…“Beer at Home means Davenports”, in front of the assembled Directors, (including the Gentleman with the Bowler hat who fronted their TV adverts)…call my self a lorry driver?..red face…oh yes, and very sweaty armpits!!!

But it was Norrie Mc Claine, Highways Scottish representative who sold J&A Smith on Highway, and Smiths became Highways largest single customer, and I came to know, and be enchanted by their Fleet Engineer Hulme Robertson, (a Gardner man indeed), who kept most of the Leith Fishing fleets Gardners in fine fettle…and how I came one cold, (is there any haulage yard, anywhere in the British Isles, as cold as that yard at Maddistone)? and wet day to be evaluating a potential purchase of a Highway Superlightweight tandem…which was connected by its wafer thin rubbing plate to a Big J with a 240 Gardner sticking out back of the cab…but on that day the unit was of no interest to me whatsoever…I was BBBBBBBBBBB cold.

Nice trailers Highways…and connected in a lot of cases to Guy`s…and some quite exotic ones indeed…

Cheerio for now.

Firstly, I’m sure most others on this illustrious site, as well as myself would like to wish Saviem’s mum a very speedy recovery and the return to the good health that she no doubt deserves. It’s great to hear that there is still the odd NHS establishment which strives to treat their customers in the appropriate manner (don’t get me started on Macclesfield General!).
Great to know that there were those who were big fans of Highway Trailers as I was, although I only had experience of short, single-axle models, apart from a single spread-axle 32-footer which was OK provided you didn’t do too much running on rough roads!
Of course, no matter in what esteem we all hold Monseiur Saviem, that chap from Milnthorpe will never believe he spotted a SoM Big J with a Gardner 240 fitted. Maybe our friend was mistaken all those years ago? Or could it possibly be that, for some unaccountable reason, Smiths had moved the 180 rearwards in the chassis? I think we all know where those nice Smith chaps (the Scottish ones, not that bloke from ■■■■■■■■ got their engines, don’t we. And it is rumoured that there are still a considerable number remaining in that ■■■■■■■■ barn.

I GIVE UP :frowning:

moomooland:
I GIVE UP :frowning:

Hiya,
Altogether now, ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS A 240. :laughing: :laughing:
thanks harry, long retired.

Saviem:
Evening all, missed quite a lot… and do not have free time to catch up as yet!

Sadly my mom, having really settled here at the farm, and seeming to enjoy her new life in the converted “Pig Sty”, suffered a fall, (those of you with elderly moms know the “horrible” procedure…Paramedics, A&E, assesment, and all that follows)…thankfully we (argued), and insisted that she be taken to New Cross at Wolverhampton, rather than Princess Royal at Telford…or heaven protect us that operation at Stafford…where the same standards, or lack of them, persist under a “rebranded” name, (why does no one insist that commercial standards of management be applied in the Health, (■■?), service), … make accountable the (cruel), wrong doers, and ship them out!..too PC. and just too frrigtned to be truly “accountable”. But considering she is 95, I, (nor no one else), could complain about the help she is being given in Wolverhampton,…truly she is being treated as well as my daughter was as a gravely injured 25 year old…and by staff as culturally, and ethnically diverse as could ever have been imagined, a truly humbling and gratifying experience, (whatever the outcome)…

But may I offer a few words of background to Highway-Multiwheeler Trailers, whose major client was J&A Smith, of Maddiston by Falkirk, a company that I grew to know very well, and a major Guy user.

Fergie is right , the old airport at Eastleigh was the manufacturing base, but did you realise that their background lay in the original Multi Wheeler Company, who manufactured under licence the load transfer trailer designs of the French manufacturer Chenard Walcker, and designs of Rochert Schneider.

Highway were a very forward thinking company, they specialised in designs that were anything but standard! The very first, (Gerald Broadbent), designed “Tautliner” body, (with curtains by “Pac A Mac”), was built on a single axle Highway trailer for Louis Reece. Given as a gift to the Science Musuem…does she still exist I wonder?

The "Super Lightweights were as Fergie says, “bouncy”! Boy they should be, given the specification. Mainly aluminium, with pierced mainframes, and composite ply decks, spread axles slipper sprung, riding on “balloon” single wheels produced specially by Avon, designed to give a 22 ton payload at 28 tons gross behind Guy Big J AEC powered 28 ton tractor…See the thinking…save on road tax, but the same payload as a 32 ton outfit! But behind a 32 ton unit an extra 2 tons of payload!

The spread axle Highways on Fergies pictures are “early” models, the rear undr run bar does not curve upwards as became standard on later versions, (Fergies picture of the Mac MacDonald outfit refers).

But Highways real strength lay in Coil Carriers, and their top selling salesman was South Wales “Coil Carrier King”, Lew Lewis. Stronger, and lighter than the equivelent M&G, and totally outclassing anything produced by those people at Crane, most Welsh and Scottish Coil fleets liked the Highway product.

Lew based himself at Stan Ross`s, (Ross Roadways), Penarth Rd, Cardiff operation, where on inumerble occasions, Stan, and Lew would ply this young Blackcountryman with strong liquor…and send me on my way back to the midlands in charge of some worn out piece of South Wales equipment,sometimes lugging behind a fairly new, (or not so new) product of Highways factory…which never failed to sell at a handsome margin to some Blackcountry “steel man”!!..(which is more than could be said for the results achieved with the tractor units…how did they ever get me back home ■■?

Boalloy, and Highway marketed the Tautliner concept originally only on Highway trailer frames only, and produced a demonstrator trailer…a 40 ft single axle…oh what joy they were to lug around…do you remember what fun they were to manouever in an urban situation…or in a “works”…Imanaged , (with great skill, and panache), to wedge this trailer right across the loading bays at Birminghams Davenport Brewery…“Beer at Home means Davenports”, in front of the assembled Directors, (including the Gentleman with the Bowler hat who fronted their TV adverts)…call my self a lorry driver?..red face…oh yes, and very sweaty armpits!!!

But it was Norrie Mc Claine, Highways Scottish representative who sold J&A Smith on Highway, and Smiths became Highways largest single customer, and I came to know, and be enchanted by their Fleet Engineer Hulme Robertson, (a Gardner man indeed), who kept most of the Leith Fishing fleets Gardners in fine fettle…and how I came one cold, (is there any haulage yard, anywhere in the British Isles, as cold as that yard at Maddistone)? and wet day to be evaluating a potential purchase of a Highway Superlightweight tandem…which was connected by its wafer thin rubbing plate to a Big J with a 240 Gardner sticking out back of the cab…but on that day the unit was of no interest to me whatsoever…I was BBBBBBBBBBB cold.

Nice trailers Highways…and connected in a lot of cases to Guy`s…and some quite exotic ones indeed…

Cheerio for now.

Saviem,a nice ditty indeed,however that other Smith chappie from Milnthorpe won’t believe you saw a 240 Percy in a Big J,such a doubting Thomas is he,that without photograph evidence,he disbelieves all those that have seen,driver or worked on Big J’s with the big Percy.

David