Got a false ticket

Clunk:
I once delivered to this place.
The loading bay had cars parked in them, so I stopped in the road and started off loading 8 pallets. As I opened the doors, I started unfolding the tail lift and a car stopped too close to me to allow the tail lift to unfold. I asked him to drop back and he refused. So I pull forward and went back round the back and he was less than 6 inches away from my tail lift. I asked him to move to which he replied ‘go around again I need to be somewhere’.
So I said fine, closed up the back doors, and opened the side. he came over and asked what I was doing. I said that as he wont move back, I will handball the boxes into the shop instead. He started shouting at me then after a while got back in his car constantly beeping his horn. I just ignored him.
The cars started piling up behind him, and some started honking.
After 5 mins or so, a copper appeared. Asked what I was doing. Explained that I had 8 pallets to unload, and the loading bays were blocked. And about the guy behind blocking my tail lift deliberately thus slowing me down.
He grinned at me, and said ‘take your time’.
He then got his book out, and started writing tickets for the three cars in the loading bay. As he was doing so, the car behind me honked his horn. The copper then wrote him a ticket for disturbing the peace.
I was there 40 minutes in the end. With the copper nearby dealing with the complaints.

I can remember the good old days when most coppers were like that! I know my brother years ago was waiting in Chelsea on double yellows for somebody to open a gate so he could get in to drop. A warden suddenly appeared with a ticket and tried to stick it on the screen, but she was only little and couldn’t reach. She went round to his window waving the ticket, but he refused to open it, so she went round the front again and tried to climb on the bumper. He started the engine and revved it (two stroke Commer, big noise), she shot off and stood a few yards away waving her arms about. Just then, a copper came round the corner, she flagged him down, and complained that my brother was trying to run her down. Plod asked him what was going on, he told him, and was advised it was probably not a good idea to wind her up. Copper then called the warden over, told her to hand my brother the ticket, then told her she was asking for trouble and should have more sense than to ticket a driver trying to go about his work, and said my brother should contest it as he was unloading, and gave him his police number in case he wanted back-up. Brother contested it, and they waived the ticket.

Bernard

Quinny:
If it ain’t your truck, then don’t stress about it, as it’s your gaffers problem for him to take up with the council and the consignor.

Ken.

^^ This

Right, double yellows on the road are ok to unload on, as long as you’re seen to be unloading - I think there’s a 2 minute check period if I remember correctly, so they have to watch for 2 mins to see if anyone is loading / unloading.

Any markings on the kerb too will indicate a loading ban, a single yellow line would be a timed ban indicated by a timeplate (usually rush hour times similar to bus lanes), double yellow kerb chevrons indicate no loading at any time.

If there was no kerb chevrons, just argue it saying your were loading and unloading, were seen in the act of loading / unloading, you’re appealing the decision and are prepared to go higher if required.

BUT, as Ken said, it’s not your problem, it’s your bosses problem ultimately.

This is Wolverhamptons own parking rule book.
And I quote…
"- Don’t park on double yellow lines
unless you are loading or unloading.
Civil Enforcement Officers will
observe vehicles to ensure that
loading or unloading is evident. "

shuttlespanker:
a few years ago, i was working on agency delivering to the Perfect Pizza chain of shops, one particular shop in London,

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: spanky and driving in london"!!! thats false if ever i saw something :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

i once got a ticket in blackburn, cus i put tyhe wheels on a kerb so i asnt blocking the road!! if id left it blocking a lane on the road id have been ok!! the same traffic warden was parked illegally on a junction corner as he gave me a ticket :imp: i had the last laugh, i saw a accident where someone cliped his van which i was asked if i saw it, by the same ■■■■ a short time later i was unable to comment :laughing: :laughing:

Christ, could write a book on this subject.

On double yellows in London, my mate jumps out to deliver small package to reception of an office block. I’m chatting to a black woman tw (English was not her native tounge!) across the motor through the open passeger window - I thought I was keeping her sweet till my mate come back! Engine still running and I see my mate running up to the motor. She starts printing off a ticket, I have a quick ckeck and I’m away - leaving my mate behind. As I pull away I hear a thump and see the tw stumble down the kerb :open_mouth: I slammed on fearing the worst, she then pops up and slaps a ticket on the windscreen :exclamation: I called her a pig to a dog. :blush:

Thought my bloke was gonna argue my corner, but all he did was bollock me and told me I will have to pay any more parking tickets.
Companies can’t be arsed to contest these fines so they just pay them, mine does.

Dafman:
Quinny is correct not your problem bosses problem.

If it’s in your contract you pay parking fines, apart from not signing the contract, what do you do?

Same kind of thing happened to me last year. Had a tail lift drop to do to a factory in Glasgow and the only practical place to unload was on double yellows with loading restrictions on it. Seen a traffic warden and explained the reason it would be easier for me to unload on the yellows and he agreed so long as I wasn’t there any longer than 10mins. Little did I know his matey was already round the front of my truck writing his ticket while I was reasoning with him.

Anyway, as much as I disagreed with the ticket, I couldn’t argue as I was unloading in a restricted area while I was trying to do my job. But I have a decent boss who told me to pay the ticket as its company policy not to pay parking fines and he would slip a couple of hours OT in my wages to cover it, and he stuck to his word.:slight_smile:

Dave55:

Dafman:
Quinny is correct not your problem bosses problem.

If it’s in your contract you pay parking fines, apart from not signing the contract, what do you do?

the last i heard, if it is in the contract, and you don’t sign the contract, you will still have to pay it anyway, as technically, you are agreeing to the terms of the contract by the fact that you are continuing to work there

Always challenge them as it costs them money to process it :smiling_imp:

I did a bit of work for a courier company around london, so got a delivery in a small street, obviously yellowed up to the hilt, but i had a job to do, the road was a bit small, and was also a one way street, so rather than block the road up, decided to use my brain, and park 2 wheels up on the kerb, and the traffic flowed freely, however i was only gone for 5 minutes, and returned to find no warden ( where do they go to ) and a nice yellow bag on the windscreen, for parking on the pavement, and it was me who had to pay any tickets, where has the sense gone, and why doesnt the RHA or other bodies provoke the government into giving delivery drivers a dispensation when delivering the nations goods.
I have always thought that if we were unionised, a lot of areas would be without their goods.
As one after thought, i worked for a company whose boss was a real east end villain, hard as nails, but a very fair bloke who would always stick up for his drivers, so back in the day, when towns were introducing lorry bans, i had a delivery to Windsor, this town had just introduced a lorry ban, and a weight limit, and i had 20 tons of paving slabs on, for the local council, i couldnt get to the depot because of the weight limits, so the boss rang the council, the council said they didnt know what to do, so the boss stored the slabs in his yard, and asked the council to come and collect, and charged them storage for the privelage, so that taught them a costly lesson.

Why is the ticket false ? sounds like you got a geniune one to me.

Lonewolf Yorks:
I once got a parking ticket slapped on my windscreen while asleep in the cab one night. Can’t remember exactly where I was but some industrial estate in London.

I got one in Bridgend, S.Wales. I was parked on an industrial estate with no lines or markings whatsoever. The ‘offense’ on the ticket? Parking at night with no parking lights showing!

truckyboy:
I did a bit of work for a courier company around london, so got a delivery in a small street, obviously yellowed up to the hilt, but i had a job to do, the road was a bit small, and was also a one way street, so rather than block the road up, decided to use my brain, and park 2 wheels up on the kerb, and the traffic flowed freely, however i was only gone for 5 minutes, and returned to find no warden ( where do they go to ) and a nice yellow bag on the windscreen, for parking on the pavement, and it was me who had to pay any tickets, where has the sense gone, and why doesnt the RHA or other bodies provoke the government into giving delivery drivers a dispensation when delivering the nations goods.
I have always thought that if we were unionised, a lot of areas would be without their goods.
As one after thought, i worked for a company whose boss was a real east end villain, hard as nails, but a very fair bloke who would always stick up for his drivers, so back in the day, when towns were introducing lorry bans, i had a delivery to Windsor, this town had just introduced a lorry ban, and a weight limit, and i had 20 tons of paving slabs on, for the local council, i couldnt get to the depot because of the weight limits, so the boss rang the council, the council said they didnt know what to do, so the boss stored the slabs in his yard, and asked the council to come and collect, and charged them storage for the privelage, so that taught them a costly lesson.

Wheels on the kerb is an offence as blocking the public right of way if someone had caught themselves or any of there clothing & damage was done they could take you to small claims court

RHA dont make me laugh they only interested in taking your money nowt else ( this is from personal experience )

animal:
Wheels on the kerb is an offence as blocking the public right of way if someone had caught themselves or any of there clothing & damage was done they could take you to small claims court

Its an offence to drive or park an HGV on a footpath or verge.

sea frog:
unfortunatly wolverhampton is a sod for wardens/tickets usualy travel around on mopeheads. last firm i worked for was a confidential waste firm so collecting from banks post offices etc and we used to get at least two a week usualy got them thrown out/written off.

Near where i live, a TW was using a moped to get round his patch,One guy reported him to the police and got him done for using a vehicle for work purposes when he wasn’t insured for it. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

rocky 7:

sea frog:
unfortunatly wolverhampton is a sod for wardens/tickets usualy travel around on mopeheads. last firm i worked for was a confidential waste firm so collecting from banks post offices etc and we used to get at least two a week usualy got them thrown out/written off.

Near where i live, a TW was using a moped to get round his patch,One guy reported him to the police and got him done for using a vehicle for work purposes when he wasn’t insured for it. :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Lots do that anyway. Often those delivering catalogues and similar parcels…

Easy money for the councils Company should pay for it I do then claim it of the client.Just ■■■■■■ winds me up you send £2 a month so they dont have to walk 20 miles to a well for there water they save come here become traffic wardens and nick us.

Driveroneuk:

animal:
Wheels on the kerb is an offence as blocking the public right of way if someone had caught themselves or any of there clothing & damage was done they could take you to small claims court

Its an offence to drive or park an HGV on a footpath or verge.

Also a car

Not sure about now but a few years ago it was £20 fine or 3point on licence or go to court

animal:

Driveroneuk:

animal:
Wheels on the kerb is an offence as blocking the public right of way if someone had caught themselves or any of there clothing & damage was done they could take you to small claims court

Its an offence to drive or park an HGV on a footpath or verge.

Also a car

Not sure about now but a few years ago it was £20 fine or 3point on licence or go to court

£60 pound for it, no points

mickyblue:

animal:

Driveroneuk:

animal:
Wheels on the kerb is an offence as blocking the public right of way if someone had caught themselves or any of there clothing & damage was done they could take you to small claims court

Its an offence to drive or park an HGV on a footpath or verge.

Also a car

Not sure about now but a few years ago it was £20 fine or 3point on licence or go to court

£60 pound for it, no points

Yep well did say it was a few more like 10-15 years :blush:

Bit different in Dublin then. Though I am told that Ireland is different these days.

I drove up O’Connell Street with a wagon and drag and believe it or not found enough room outside the General Post Office (very historical place, 1916 etc.) I knew from my street map that my drop was behind in a very small street but my load was on the wagon.

After walking round the block I saw that not only could I not get there with the trailer but the wagon wouldn’t have got round the bottom corner either. So I asked a warden where was there a lorry park for me to drop the trailer. He said ‘right here’. We were on Parnell Street at the time, one way, very busy, double yellows. ‘But the yellows’ I said, ‘No problem’ he replied ‘sure, you have your job to do don’t you?’

I did as I was told, he supervised me round the corner and between the market stalls and then watched as I reversed 200 yards down the one way street.

Tipped, recoupled, away, no bother. Nice man. :laughing: