roaduser66:
You want to force cyclists to use facilities where they are more likely to get hurt. You are pig-ignorant, lazy and bigoted.
Explain how cyclists are supposedly ‘safer’ on the road than on the segregated provision in the specific example I’ve shown.Not the selectively applied worst case sections shown by you where the speed differential issue isn’t as much anyway for obvious reasons.
Why do some cyclists have a problem with having to stop at the end or interruption of a cycle lane? When I ride my bike I treat the end of the cycle lane like a give way instruction on the road.
Talking of calling cyclists “stupid” I think I’ll call the cyclist who was riding along the road this morning near my house with no lights, no reflective clothing etc ■■■■■■■ mentally retarded. And the bloke cycling on the A34 earlier. He had lights and helmet etc but what a gamble to take in fog. Yes he’s permitted on the A34 but why risk your life doing so? Much nicer cycle ride on the old road through Wytham and onto Wolvercote.
Carryfast:
roaduser66:
You want to force cyclists to use facilities where they are more likely to get hurt. You are pig-ignorant, lazy and bigoted.Explain how cyclists are supposedly ‘safer’ on the road than on the segregated provision in the specific example I’ve shown.Not the selectively applied worst case sections shown by you where the speed differential issue isn’t as much anyway for obvious reasons.
It’s a shared-use path. Would you be happy if someone cycled past your toddler at 20mph? THINK.! Use your brain. Pedestrians are unpredictable, they meander, they wander, especially children. It would be anti-social and reckless to cycle close past children at ANY speed. You are so consumed with hatred of cyclists to understand the issues they face, do you seriously believe that cyclists WANT to annoy drivers? You didn’t know that cycle lanes are more dangerous than the road, injuries are more likely and collisions more frequent. That’s forgiveable, although you could have looked it up yourself rather than expose your ignorance here.
Is there not a CycleNetUK/BellendNetUK for this clown?? If there is a pedestrian on your dog crap ridden path, SLOW DOWN or GIVE THEM PLENTY OF ROOM. You know, like knobheads such as you expect us to do for you simple bellends.
Besides which, why do you all wear crappy brightly coloured crappy clothing and shave your legs??
Perverts.
Your mum likes the lycra when I ■■■■ her in the mouth.
Cycle lanes are for elderly people and kids learning to ride a bike. The rest of us use the road and we’re not going to stop so stop whining and sniveling about it, it’s none of your beeswax.
Haha. You need to do better than that bellend. 4/10.
So…what do you think about slowing down and/or giving extra room?
It’s what I do every day I use a share-use path. That’s why I’ve ridden 50k miles in London and never come close to hitting a ped.
roaduser66:
Carryfast:
roaduser66:
You want to force cyclists to use facilities where they are more likely to get hurt. You are pig-ignorant, lazy and bigoted.Explain how cyclists are supposedly ‘safer’ on the road than on the segregated provision in the specific example I’ve shown.Not the selectively applied worst case sections shown by you where the speed differential issue isn’t as much anyway for obvious reasons.
It’s a shared-use path. Would you be happy if someone cycled past your toddler at 20mph? THINK.! Use your brain. Pedestrians are unpredictable, they meander, they wander, especially children. It would be anti-social and reckless to cycle close past children at ANY speed. You are so consumed with hatred of cyclists to understand the issues they face, do you seriously believe that cyclists WANT to annoy drivers? You didn’t know that cycle lanes are more dangerous than the road, injuries are more likely and collisions more frequent. That’s forgiveable, although you could have looked it up yourself rather than expose your ignorance here.
It’s clear that the majority of that section of the provision seperates pedestrians from cyclists with two seperate lanes.While even where it isn’t there is sufficient room on most parts of it between Leatherhead and Dorking for co operation between cyclists and pedestrians in the very rare event that anyone would actually be walking along the route anyway. 
I think I have fired a terminal shot there CF. I am gonna leave him alone with his stupidity for company.
What makes me laugh, is that he thinks I care about him being on the road or not. 44 tonnes Scania vs Bellend on a recycled bath.
I know who will definitely come off better.
Separated by a bit of grass. Children are unpredictable. They dart from side to side. Only a sociopath would force children to mix with bikes going above, say, 18mph, which was the safe limit proposed for cycle lanes, faster than that and you are much safer using the road. But you didn’t know that, did you?
Annex D: Code of Conduct Notice for Cyclists
Ride at a sensible speed for the situation and ensure you can stop in time. As a general rule, if you want to cycle quickly, say in excess of 18 mph/30 kph, then you should be riding on the road.
webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. … icefor1688
So stop slagging people off and calling them “stupid” when they are simply following official guidance.
roaduser66:
Separated by a bit of grass. Children are unpredictable. They dart from side to side. Only a sociopath would force children to mix with bikes going above, say, 18mph, which was the safe limit proposed for cycle lanes, faster than that and you are much safer using the road. But you didn’t know that, did you?Annex D: Code of Conduct Notice for Cyclists
Ride at a sensible speed for the situation and ensure you can stop in time. As a general rule, if you want to cycle quickly, say in excess of 18 mph/30 kph, then you should be riding on the road.
webarchive.nationalarchives.gov. … icefor1688
So stop slagging people off and calling them “stupid” when they are simply following official guidance.
We’ve got a segregated walkway and another segregated cycleway all divided by grass verges or just a kerb.So what is it that makes the road any safer in regards to these supposedly out of control pedestrians.Let me guess in cyclist logic we’ve got a magic verge or kerb that seperates the road from everything else.On that note up to 18 mph is plenty even in the case of a ‘shared’ walkway ‘and’ cycleway,which it mostly isn’t, and still a lot safer than cyclists sharing even a now reduced 50 mph limit dual carriageway with trucks and cars etc.
I have to put my hand up and admit i have run over 2 pedestrians and 1 dog on shared use paths in Bristol . 1 old lady who wobbled across path had to go to hospital altho she seemed far from dead judging by the language . thankfully i was on mtb and it suffered no damage .
I also have run over an idiot fisherman and his fish sticks on shared canal path near Stourbridge . that was definately his fault for leaving things all across the path .
On the road i have only hit 1 pedestrian and several rabbits . these were on road bike and ive bust several wheels .
Of course tho , outside of bristol , brighton and parts of london etc there are NO segregated cycle ways so it is academic to argue about using them
roaduser66:
You are pig-ignorant, lazy and bigoted.
roaduser66:
Go away, you are too stupid to argue with.
Gosh. Sounds like someone is getting a tad upset.
roaduser66:
Your mum likes the lycra when I [zb] her in the mouth.
Oh dear. Someones showing their immense level of immaturity here. With comments like that, are you REALLY the best person to be lecturing everyone? Hardly makes you a decent person for a reasoned debate does it?
roaduser66:
So stop slagging people off and calling them “stupid” when they are simply following official guidance.
Its also official guidance to always wear a helmet and use front and rear lights but you and that other ■■■ BWD seem to think it doesnt matter since its not illegal. Cant have it both ways pal
roaduser66:
You are so consumed with hatred of cyclists to understand the issues they face
Says you. A clown with a hatred for anything with more than two wheels who consistantly ignores what everyone else is saying and instead twists everything to suit his own blinkered view of whats going on in the real world and hides behind statistics. You have NO idea of the issues hgv drivers face when dealing with everything on the road due to their size yet you feel sufficiantly qualified to come on here and lecture everyone about what needs to be done? Its been painfully obvious since your first post on this forum just how deep your hatred for hgvs goes and how blinkered your views are stop blaming everyone else
And i think some of the simpler minded people on here confuse having a pootle about for fun with commuting .
When im commuting im looking to get to work at a particular time , or catch the train …
Then im looking at keeping momentum .
Im not going to ■■■■ about with 20 yards of cyclepath . im going to be hammering .
And its YOUR responsibility as driver of killing machine to pay attention and not kill me .
I can sympathise with boredwivdrivin here (wonders never cease 
) and say I’ve had a minor altercation with a fisherman before and a couple of dogs (one was in a nightclub and I wasn’t ■■■■■■ enough 
). Fisherman flung his line and hook over his shoulder without looking for pedestrians and cyclists (shared path/trackway) and nearly hooked me as I passed. I didn’t know a rod licence gave him those rights.
Had a couple of annoying “handbag dogs” run across infront of me attached to those washing line leads. I just rammed the lead and gave the dog the spin dryer effect. That was hilarious. 
boredwivdrivin:
And i think some of the simpler minded people on here confuse having a pootle about for fun with commuting .When im commuting im looking to get to work at a particular time , or catch the train …
Then im looking at keeping momentum .
Im not going to ■■■■ about with 20 yards of cyclepath . im going to be hammering .
And its YOUR responsibility as driver of killing machine to pay attention and not kill me .
So by your reasoning, commuters in motorised vehicles, also looking to get to work at a particular time or catch the train, are equally ok to be “hammering?” DORK.
Bluey Circles:
the roads are as much for cyclists as they are for other vehicles, and we pay for them every bit as much as other road users (may be arguably even more so)
Hmmm…Don`t think so.
This latest fisherman, i shouted at him from a long way off to move his sticks / chair /coolbox etc .
He didnt move so i kept my foot down to ‘bunnyhop’ his junk .
At last moment he dived for his sticks and got a peddle in his shins and front brake hand in his guts .
I fell into stinging nettles .
He refused to apologise and was moaning his sticks were broke along with his shins .
Im sure we are all pleased to know that my Anthem X1 was completely unscathed in this incident .
Carryfast:
Bluey Circles:
From the example you give of the A24, I would agree it would be a very odd place to take a bike, even suicidal, there is no way I would venture on to that road on my bike (have you seen the traffic count for it 39,000 per day). And in the example you give the cycle path does look OK. however many cycle paths are just horrendous, overgrown, uneven, dog shet, broken glass, pedestrian (who seem to dislike you even more than car drivers) and even the ones that do appear visually to have a good surface, are in fact of a much lower standard than the road and are very tiring to ride on.
So although I agree with you on the example you give, I am uneasy about cycling infrastructure and excluding bikes from the general highway, the roads are as much for cyclists as they are for other vehicles, and we pay for them every bit as much as other road users (may be arguably even more so)Admittedly there are obviously places where cycle ways won’t be an ideal solution.However in general it would be fair to say that if it’s considered unsafe by horse riders then it’s also just as unsafe for cyclists and the large speed differentials between cyclists and motor traffic are a bigger risk to safety than anything which you’ve described.In this case there are numerous safer more suitable routes in the area for cyclists than the A24 anyway and that’s even without the cycleway issue.
I don’t think there is a cycle path within 20 miles of where I live, so do I need to find someone with a horse to test if a road is suitable or not before I venture out on two wheels ? and would all horse riders be equally knowledgeable? or would I need to consult a special horsey person? its certainly an unusual argument you have.
When driving do you show more care when around horses than cyclists or do you treat them both the same ?