Getting off the road

I rarely visit this site now, only signed in twice last year, as I haven’t driven a lorry since New Year’s Eve 2017. My hobby had grown into a small business through word of mouth and reinvesting every penny. Never intended on it becoming more than an addition but by sheer luck I dropped on another business which dove-tailed superbly. That was the catalyst I needed.

Within a year I’d stopped driving lorries and moved them from rented premises into a large barn I bought from a farmer. Within two years taken on a couple of staff to expand and am now in the process of building another barn at the side of the other to separate the two businesses as they’ve outgrown my expectations.

Thoroughly enjoying myself and actually look forward to working now.

Stanley Knife:
I rarely visit this site now, only signed in twice last year, as I haven’t driven a lorry since New Year’s Eve 2017. My hobby had grown into a small business through word of mouth and reinvesting every penny. Never intended on it becoming more than an addition but by sheer luck I dropped on another business which dove-tailed superbly. That was the catalyst I needed.

Within a year I’d stopped driving lorries and moved them from rented premises into a large barn I bought from a farmer. Within two years taken on a couple of staff to expand and am now in the process of building another barn at the side of the other to separate the two businesses as they’ve outgrown my expectations.

Thoroughly enjoying myself and actually look forward to working now.

Great when you can make a living out of a hobby. I make a little pocket money out of one of mine. Good luck to you pal. :smiley:

No desire to leave the industry.

Couple of mates got me a job that offers very good terms and conditions.
It really is a world apart from anything I’ve had before.

Seems like I’m in the minority here, nothing unusual THERE then! I actually enjoy the lorry driving, the isolation, getting paid to listen to the radio, dealing with people for a maximum of five minutes at a time and the actual driving.

My place recently trained me up to run the office (skydiving accident, long story), and now they’ve offered me a permanent job in there. Same wage, regular hours and finish times, out of the bad weather and all the other things that make me grumble. It was even suggested that I could go out on the road now and then if I wanted! All in all, a great opportunity that doesnt come along very often.

I turned it down. What the ■■■■ is wrong with me?

Not many transferable skills from lorry driving into other non-driving professions & it’s not exactly the most well regarded job going out there.

For many guys doing this job, lorry driving will be the most lucrative job they will have had and they will have built their financial commitments & and lifestyle around their £30k earnings, maybe even £40k+ earnings for some. Such earnings in many other professions is a proper qualification and/or several promotions away.

Your in the money trap, basically.

rob22888:
Not many transferable skills from lorry driving into other non-driving professions & it’s not exactly the most well regarded job going out there.

For many guys doing this job, lorry driving will be the most lucrative job they will have had and they will have built their financial commitments & and lifestyle around their £30k earnings, maybe even £40k+ earnings for some. Such earnings in many other professions is a proper qualification and/or several promotions away.

Your in the money trap, basically.

the average UK salary is £35,423 so I am not so sure.

The average working class wage is nowhere near that.

jakethesnake:

rob22888:

the average UK salary is £35,423 so I am not so sure.

A misleading figure and always has been, a high number of people in the south east especially will have salaries around £100k and many far above that, then the share options BUPA preferential pension schemes, both private and public (paid by us) sectors, often for amazingly short working weeks when they can be bothered to attend between sick days training days ‘‘working from home’’ and all the other fiddles that are never mentioned, deals like that are legion and skew the average…no one ever states the average for the working class.

If we talk about lorry driver wages, generally these are for anything up to twice the hours that the above will be putting in, and no early release circa age 55 on an index linked golden pension that some i know are fortunate enough to draw, the smug attitude of these people is sickening when you consider how little so many did for their 30 pieces.

Most lorry drivers in general hire and reward work wouldn’t get over £25k for a 39 hour week, its only because they do two weeks work every week and some still stubbornly include their subsistence allowances when talking money, though including subs is understandable because 39 hours @ even £11 an hour without subs would produce a desperate top line, and too many are working on contracts which actually con them out of overtime they ave already earned earlier in the week by taking it back off them if a short day Friday.

Most people in typical working class jobs arn’t making anything like £35k unless they’re in hard graft mucky jobs or working far in excess of standard office hours and/or shifts others wouldn’t contemplate.

I thought my shift pattern was weird, though it suits us personally and gives me lots of time off, but the various places i go to people don’t have a clue what day of the week it is, they’re doing 4 x 12 hour earlies this week then 2 days off then 2 x night shifts sat and sun then 2 days off and back on 4 x 12 hour nights and on it goes, yes they will be on much more than £35k, but not only are they averaging 48 hours at least, when you look at them their eyes are like ■■■■ holes in the snow and they are often miserable and depressed.

The lot of the average working class person has never been good, not helped by the destruction of the unions, mass immigration has been the kicker though which all political parties (none of the main ones have any respect for or allegiance to the native genuine working class, and the working class were dissuaded from those who were genuinely working class driven) are signed up to and no intention whatsoever of curtailing in any meaningful way.

Commonrail said the same in 9 words :blush:

Some of the jobs some of you lot do, permanent rdc.s for example, would do my head in.
Also the way some of you actually do the job :unamused: … lay by/msa parking, allowing yourselves to be run ragged, maxing out/minimum rests as targets, phone calls and hassle every 5min asking ‘‘Why have you gone that way/stopped/off route’’, ■■■■ random surveillance cameras, and all the other insults to professionalism…all that type of crap would urge me to jack tomorrow…fact. :unamused:

I thing my generation of drivers definitely had the best days in the job, and can see how it has improved in some ways but got a lot worse in many more ways.
Would I start it again as it is today …Would I ■■■■.

The reason I still do it is my present type of work and the fact I’m left alone to do it.
The money is average, and although a lot less than what I was on 10 15 yrs ago working out based for the foreigners and a Southern firm , I can live fairly comfortably and afford a decent social life with holidays for me and my Mrs.
I don’t run like a deranged idiot with his arse on fire, and I park up in decent places.
Unless I end up falling out with my lot (not difficult btw) I can’t see me jacking the steady little number I have made for myself…so that is my answer as to why I’m still doing it.

commonrail:
The average working class wage is nowhere near that.

Its close to what I was on when I retired and I consider my self as average. :laughing:

For the past 20 years I seemed to alternate between transport and garage trade.
I had my perfect job working for a good mate restoring classic cars and preparing race cars and attending race meetings and car shows . I was lucky as I don’t have any qualifications in the motor trade but have a lot of experience. Then the recession hit and my mate cut right back then eventually went bankrupt . Returned to transport and did long distance and European work on vans and 7.5t , realised that I was earning more than many on class one without the aggravation and restrictions. I thoroughly enjoyed the work but only tolerated the management.
Stopped in 2017 due to heart problems and briefly returned to the cars until further health problems stopped everything.
It’s not just work where many stay put despite hating what they do , many stay in relationships because they are afraid of change or stuck in a financial trap .

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grumpyken52:
It’s not just work where many stay put despite hating what they do , many stay in relationships because they are afraid of change or stuck in a financial trap .

I.suppose I’ve been lucky with jobs.
Since I finished on my own over 20 yrs ago I’'ve only had 5 employers, 2 of which I only lasted about a year each, so 2 more over 10 yrs each.
The firm I worked for in Essex ceased trading, I would still have been there today if they had not, cracking employers they were, they knew how to treat drivers and how to get the best out of them…more than willingly.
One Harry Vos, not so good…enough said :smiley: .
The other, Brit European out of Zeebrugge, another bloody good job, but made redundant.
My present employer 10 yrs, but not as good as last two by any means, we have a bit of a love hate relationship :smiley: , but the actual job like I said,.I do enjoy.

So yeh, I have got out of jobs that did not suit me but I do get what you mean about some being afraid of change, but is that the right reason to stay in a crap job?..I reckon not.

So Stanley Knife turned his hobby into a business -didn’t know you can get paid for donating sperm and I hate to think what he keeps in his 2 barns :smiley: