newmercman:
I’m with crazyfreak on this one, the artic towing a smaller trailer would be horrible to drive forwards, let alone in reverse and it would be a total nightmare getting even weight distribution, a 6x2 rigid with a converter dolly and a 13.6m trailer is by far the best way to go
Before you get carried away freaky boy, I said 6x2, no need for double drive…or heat on the windscreen…and it’d need a good fuel surcharge
Would that be diesel or gas? … and how many spark plugs??
All depends on wether I decide to put an LPG fuelled Meteor engine in that 6x4 Foden prime mover instead of the Detroit.
newmercman:
I’m with crazyfreak on this one, the artic towing a smaller trailer would be horrible to drive forwards, let alone in reverse and it would be a total nightmare getting even weight distribution, a 6x2 rigid with a converter dolly and a 13.6m trailer is by far the best way to go
Before you get carried away freaky boy, I said 6x2, no need for double drive…or heat on the windscreen…and it’d need a good fuel surcharge
Would that be diesel or gas? … and how many spark plugs??
All depends on wether I decide to put an LPG fuelled Meteor engine in that 6x4 Foden prime mover instead of the Detroit.
not found a way to convert the garbage that comes out your mouth most of the time?
newmercman:
I’m with crazyfreak on this one, the artic towing a smaller trailer would be horrible to drive forwards, let alone in reverse and it would be a total nightmare getting even weight distribution, a 6x2 rigid with a converter dolly and a 13.6m trailer is by far the best way to go
Before you get carried away freaky boy, I said 6x2, no need for double drive…or heat on the windscreen…and it’d need a good fuel surcharge
Would that be diesel or gas? … and how many spark plugs??
All depends on wether I decide to put an LPG fuelled Meteor engine in that 6x4 Foden prime mover instead of the Detroit.
not found a way to convert the garbage that comes out your mouth most of the time?
If the government thought that the idea of running diesel engined trucks on LPG and getting rid of screen heating vents was as good as bs converted to LPG then they’d be charging £6 per gallon for that too.
Wheel Nut:
We didn’t get tramlining when we used trailer leaf springs, I think it was put down to the pummeling it got from air. I am sure there was some study done
was that about the same time trailer wheels changed from duals to super singles ?
The thing most of you seem to miss is it was an acticle from the Daily Mail. A right wing paper with an Anti EU agenda, so they love any story that has an anti EU slant.
So the EU are looking at Road haulage, hence the 4m and longer trailer debate. It’s quite possible that certain Countires and industry pressure groups are pushing for longer and heavier trucks. No doubt our Govenment will bow to the pressure from the big players in the industry (The only people who’ll benefit) and try and get these trucks, whilst blaming the EU for thier introduction.
But there are also other Countries and Pressure groups who will be fighting against any increase, probably want more restrictions on Road Haulage and more subsidies for Rail Frieght.
It’s probably one of these groups who feed this story to the Daily Mail so they could help boost thier anti truck campaign.
muckles:
The thing most of you seem to miss is it was an acticle from the Daily Mail. A right wing paper with an Anti EU agenda, so they love any story that has an anti EU slant.
So the EU are looking at Road haulage, hence the 4m and longer trailer debate. It’s quite possible that certain Countires and industry pressure groups are pushing for longer and heavier trucks. No doubt our Govenment will bow to the pressure from the big players in the industry (The only people who’ll benefit) and try and get these trucks, whilst blaming the EU for thier introduction.
But there are also other Countries and Pressure groups who will be fighting against any increase, probably want more restrictions on Road Haulage and more subsidies for Rail Frieght.
It’s probably one of these groups who feed this story to the Daily Mail so they could help boost thier anti truck campaign.
The issues concerning small long distance haulage firms versus intermodal rail freight operations is a big business agenda and big business always does what suits it best wether that’s support of the EU,like when all the parties,including the tory lot,supported our membership when we joined,or like now when it’s bankers jumping ship and zb’ing off to Switzerland while investing all the country’s money in places like China and Eastern Europe to take advantage of cheap labour.
That big business agenda is also actually more in favour of big rail freight interests and intermodal operations than small haulage firms using larger more efficient trucks on long distance in competition with rail.The agenda of the rail freight interest groups is probably more pro global free market,intermodal container operations and anti long distance road transport,than anti EU and the EU angle is irrelevant in that context in that they’ll support some things which the EU support when it suits them but not others when it does’nt.However it would be interesting to hear the reasoning for the Mail’s opposition to larger trucks.
But 60 + tonner drawbar outfits (and the specialist nature of the type of equipment needed to pull them) would actually be more suited to small owner driver,european long distance,sub contract,traction operations than ‘the big fleet local/uk distribution players’.
Just thinking if 60 tonnes is better why not go the whole hog and knock them up to 80 or 120 tonnes,by the way how long would a walk round check take with all those wheels and if there is more wheels thats more punctures.
Wheel Nut:
We didn’t get tramlining when we used trailer leaf springs, I think it was put down to the pummeling it got from air. I am sure there was some study done
was that about the same time trailer wheels changed from duals to super singles ?
( I blame super singles )
It all happened around the same time Denis, so I suppose it is all related
From 32500 to 38000, from 4 axles to 5 which probably resulted in more artics and less 8 wheelers.
When we were all using the yellow brick road from Antwerp, the cloggies and chip eaters were running air, plus super singles at higher weights, that road was horrendous, the trailers were bouncing so much with sparks coming off the rear bumpers.
Would that be diesel or gas? … and how many spark plugs??
