dave docwra:
adam277:
Not a single vote for TIG(Anna Soubry’s party)
No wonder they don’t want a general election.The poll indicates that a split in the leave vote might happen. It will be very interesting to see what decision Nigel Farage will make when he announces the plan for the Brexit Party.
Does anyone on this forum actually want to remain. ?
I am a Remainer, it would be an ideal time to announce that we wish to stay and would want to negotiate a better deal for the UK…
I’m sure the EU would welcome us “back” (we didn’t leave after all) - with a shiny new “No Reforms” guarantee, and leave us like they left Socialist Tsipras of Greece who threw his hand away by saying “he wanted to stay in” - only for the EU to then inflict humongous austerity upon Greece, which has already cost many lives. I don’t think the EU will EVER “reform” from it’s wasteful ways, alas. I didn’t realize that - until the point when Cameron came back empty-handed. Even on this day we could and should have left with no deal - the EU have offered us NO incentive to “stay” other than “Better the devil you know”. We lose on our trade with the EU, but ministers have been too lazy to face the “work cut out for them” that would be re-setting all our foreign trade routes, in future by-passing the EU. We’ll gain from leaving in the end, but sure - there will be teething troubles. If we stay in though? Our energy prices - show what happens to our cost of living “whilst we remain”. I’d expect no less of such rising prices upon “Must-have” imports - in the years to come IF we don’t ever leave.
It isn’t that “Socialism doesn’t work” - but rather “Socialism needs a magic money tree” - with the Brexit Dividend being it - but has so far, been turned down by the mainstream, presumably because people actually IN power get “strongly convinced” to support a different view to any common-sense mathematical argument about being “better or worse off”.
I, don’t have a problem with Labour’s expensive policy spending commitments - IF they are paid for by said magic money tree… Promising new taxes on an undefined “wealthy” - doesn’t cut it, as “wealthy” is likely to prove to be “anyone earning more than minimum wages, who don’t claim benefits”, alas.
In fact, I’d rather see Farage in coalition with Labour - since we cannot trust the Tories to SPEND the Brexit Dividend on public services, should they ever deliver the no deal Brexit necessary to come into this 1billion permanent per month line of cash… Merkel - has been running surpluses in Germany for yonks - but didn’t spend it wiseley, and now her country are getting poorer by the hour. Talk about “not fixing your roof when the sun was shining” - she’s gone one better: Failing to get a job when you still had legs/Filling your belly whilst still alive, and just beginning to starve rather than all this “Jam Tomorrow” rubbish, where we go without TODAY so some rich chump doesn’t have to answer for the fact that you and yours face a premature austerity-induced end before retirement in all-too-many cases…