Carryfast:
I was disappointed with the ridiculously far fetched ending and stereotypical idea of the Germans allowing a Tiger to get caught in a close in engagement.When the reality was more along the lines of hoping that the allies wouldn’t run out of Shermans and their unfortunate crews before the Germans ran out of fuel and ammunition.The story line in this case would have arguably been a lot more effective if they’d made the end of the film with Fury’s and its complete crew’s luck having finally ran out with a single shot from the Tiger’s 88 from a range where they didn’t even know what hit them.
Well if you actually watched the film CF… the tank named FURY didn’t get finished off by a tiger…they hit a land mine which blew the left track at a cross road…
The Fury Sherman finished off the Tiger by shooting it in the weakest point, its ■■■…
the maoster:
I must have missed that particular documentary tbh. I did however watch a recent Hollywood film on the subject of tank warfare, obviously being a Hollywood film it catered for the masses with the obvious aim of putting bums on cinema seats.
documentary? if you’re going to make a film ,might as well make it realistic-the Memphis belle seemed pretty close to the truth(even for Hollywood), saving private ryan was fiction,but it was realistic.band of brothers was spot on(not a film but a ten part series but nethertheless very very accurate).and all the better for it(despite Hollywood forgetting we fought in the the war at all, from 1939-1945,not just 1942-1945 like them…)
Fury was just a load of total ■■■■■■■■.
bums on seats in cinemas? stick it up yer [zb] hole if it aint accurate to the truth.
that would be Memphis belle the second plane to complete its tour yeah realy accurate and truthfull
I meant close to the truth to what happened in general,not to the actual Memphis belle-.do you think Fury was close to the actual truth with that ending?
the maoster:
I must have missed that particular documentary tbh. I did however watch a recent Hollywood film on the subject of tank warfare, obviously being a Hollywood film it catered for the masses with the obvious aim of putting bums on cinema seats.
documentary? if you’re going to make a film ,might as well make it realistic-the Memphis belle seemed pretty close to the truth(even for Hollywood), saving private ryan was fiction,but it was realistic.band of brothers was spot on(not a film but a ten part series but nethertheless very very accurate).and all the better for it(despite Hollywood forgetting we fought in the the war at all, from 1939-1945,not just 1942-1945 like them…)
Fury was just a load of total ■■■■■■■■.
bums on seats in cinemas? stick it up yer [zb] hole if it aint accurate to the truth.
Yeah you are of course correct in that making a film it should be factually correct. A point which in fact I brought up with George Lucas whilst discussing Star Wars. I told him “George, everybody knows that Liuke Skywalker was raised on Tantra three and you seem to have left that out, do you think we’re all idiots?” Never received my usual Christmas card from him this year for some reason.
Carryfast:
I was disappointed with the ridiculously far fetched ending and stereotypical idea of the Germans allowing a Tiger to get caught in a close in engagement.When the reality was more along the lines of hoping that the allies wouldn’t run out of Shermans and their unfortunate crews before the Germans ran out of fuel and ammunition.The story line in this case would have arguably been a lot more effective if they’d made the end of the film with Fury’s and its complete crew’s luck having finally ran out with a single shot from the Tiger’s 88 from a range where they didn’t even know what hit them.
Well if you actually watched the film CF… the tank named FURY didn’t get finished off by a tiger…they hit a land mine which blew the left track at a cross road…
The Fury Sherman finished off the Tiger by shooting it in the weakest point, its ■■■…
I think that was CF’s whole argument about letting a tiger get caught in close engagement.
yeah they blew a left track on a mine,then killed 200 plus SS,many of which carried panzerfaust rockets which would have sliced through the Sherman like a hot knife through butter…
donkey-dog:
I think that bloke Bruce Cromptom from Combat dealers on Quest supplied some of the vehicles used on the fury set ?
he did, same with saving private ryan,ie the tiger tank
Like Kelly’s Heroes the ‘Tiger’ in Saving Private Ryan was obviously a T34 based copy with Tiger type false deck and turret.Whereas the one used in Fury was the real thing being the ex Afrika Corps one which was captured in North Africa and kept at Bovington.While it would have been a lot better to realistically reflect the sad unnecessary casualties sustained by allied tank crews,because their masters were going by the rule of quantity/cheapness over quality,by giving the Tiger the credit it deserved.In having shown the way forward in tank design being more about protection and gun effectiveness,which ironically saved Israel in the form of the Centurion.While showing the true cost and almost suicidal heroism of allied tank crews in WW2.
On that note there is an absolutely horrific clip of uncensored WW2 film on Live Leak involving what recovery crews like my late dad had to deal with every day and which shows the reality of putting the Sherman up against superior machinery in the form of the 88mm gun in all its forms either Flak or Tiger tank mounted.The results suggesting spalling,suffered by the lightly armoured Sherman,let alone penetration,that my father had tried but obviously couldn’t describe to me that he’d been involved with as an 18 year old in REME service.I’d suggest that Fury would have done more for the memory of all those involved if the story line had made that the final fate of Fury and its crew and its effects on a young recovery recruit on his first day in the job.
On that note the Sherman’s armour protection was so bad as to create confusion among historians that being petrol fuelled was its problem. Bearing in mind that the Tiger was also petrol fuelled just like the Centurion was v its diesel fuelled Russian opposition.
Many of these panzerfaust rockets were in fact,ineffective,having been sabotaged during assembly by slave labour, mostly POW’s,mainly from Eastern Europe.Occasionally,I believe,agency workers were also utilised.
Contraflow:
I thought it was a good film. I couldn’t give two [zb]s how historically accurate it was but then I do have ■■■ quite a lot so maybe that’s it.
perhaps your relatives didn’t fight in that particular part of ww2,so you might not give two ■■■■■.perhaps other members on here do have relatives that fought in that theatre,and would like to be represented a bit more accurately.at least you enjoyed it.
Baggie:
Many of these panzerfaust rockets were in fact,ineffective,having been sabotaged during assembly by slave labour, mostly POW’s,mainly from Eastern Europe.Occasionally,I believe,agency workers were also utilised.
would you have liked to stood on the wrong end of one ?
agency workers? really funny.how many family members did you lose to slave camps in ww2?
Carryfast:
I was disappointed with the ridiculously far fetched ending and stereotypical idea of the Germans allowing a Tiger to get caught in a close in engagement.When the reality was more along the lines of hoping that the allies wouldn’t run out of Shermans and their unfortunate crews before the Germans ran out of fuel and ammunition.The story line in this case would have arguably been a lot more effective if they’d made the end of the film with Fury’s and its complete crew’s luck having finally ran out with a single shot from the Tiger’s 88 from a range where they didn’t even know what hit them.
Well if you actually watched the film CF… the tank named FURY didn’t get finished off by a tiger…they hit a land mine which blew the left track at a cross road…
The Fury Sherman finished off the Tiger by shooting it in the weakest point, its ■■■…
I know which was the points I was making.IE the ‘heroism’ was in reality just climbing into the thing in an environment where they already knew the damage which an ‘88’ could do since the North African campaign combined with the armour protection of the best German tanks which made almost suicidal tactics the only way of defeating them.Which probably explains why many German tank ‘losses’ were the result of being wrecked by their own crews having run out of ammo or fuel and/or maintenance back up or both.Not being shot ‘in the rear’ by a Sherman.In which case as I said it would have done the memory of such allied tank crews a better service if the end of the film had made ‘Fury’s’ demise a more realistic one at the wrong end of an 88 mm anti tank round fired from massive range.While making/showing the successful close in Sherman v Tiger engagement the very rare suicidal idea it was.Let alone waiting around with a knackered broken tank for an even more suicidal showdown with what was left of the German army on its own turf.
Baggie:
Many of these panzerfaust rockets were in fact,ineffective,having been sabotaged during assembly by slave labour, mostly POW’s,mainly from Eastern Europe.Occasionally,I believe,agency workers were also utilised.
would you have liked to stood on the wrong end of one ?
agency workers? really funny.how many family members did you lose to slave camps in ww2?
Did you not see the smiley/winky thing at the end ■■?
Get yourself down to Specsavers …and try Ebay as well,sense of humours are going cheap at the moment
Baggie:
Many of these panzerfaust rockets were in fact,ineffective,having been sabotaged during assembly by slave labour, mostly POW’s,mainly from Eastern Europe.Occasionally,I believe,agency workers were also utilised.
would you have liked to stood on the wrong end of one ?
agency workers? really funny.how many family members did you lose to slave camps in ww2?
Did you not see the smiley/winky thing at the end ■■?
Get yourself down to Specsavers …and try Ebay as well,sense of humours are going cheap at the moment
yes I saw the smiley-very funny,as was the specsavers joke.
like I said,how many family members did you lose to slave camps in ww2? .
perhaps you could look on ebay at how much a sense of decency costs? would it now be funny if I put lots of smileys at the end of my post?
parkus:
Just watched the film the other week for the first time, ended up watching it another 3 times the following week
I was disappointed with the ridiculously far fetched ending and stereotypical idea of the Germans allowing a Tiger to get caught in a close in engagement.When the reality was more along the lines of hoping that the allies wouldn’t run out of Shermans and their unfortunate crews before the Germans ran out of fuel and ammunition.The story line in this case would have arguably been a lot more effective if they’d made the end of the film with Fury’s and its complete crew’s luck having finally ran out with a single shot from the Tiger’s 88 from a range where they didn’t even know what hit them.
With you there carry,I thought i would glean some sense of what my late grandfather went through as a sherman driver during ww2,but what a pile of,as you say.cliched tripe featuring one Brad Pitt,possibly the worlds most egotistical wooden thespian.Makes Jason Statham look like Laurence Olivier.
It would arguably be fair to say that the allies traded lives for cash by holding back on the production development timescale of tanks like the Comet/Centurion and admittedly slightly less reliable Pershing.
Bearing in mind that the Tiger was also petrol fuelled just like the Centurion was v its diesel fuelled Russian opposition. 
