James the cat:
Oh that and oil. We’d have to stop buying oil from them indirectly as Putin said to America. That’s a small point.
Or as I’d have said to Putin we should have joined Israel in 1973 and just taken it as war reperations after helping Israel to smash all that junk that Russia and East Germany had supplied to its Arab mates. 
I’d guess that what he actually meant was along similar lines as my own view of the main stream media bs.IE sick of all the same old PC message of loads of propaganda sympathy for the victims.But equally let’s not allow this to affect the continuation of our open door immigration policy that has caused the problem blah blah,and let’s drop some more bombs on Syria that’ll fix it.
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+! spot on old chap. nuke the country so theres nowhere to run to,then work your way through whats left. 
Juddian:
Haven’t seen any of that pish DD, but then i haven’t bought a newspaper for over 30 years and we don’t watch live television and positively never watch or listen to the British state propaganda broadcasting channel nor any of the other MSM come to that…it’s surprisingly liberating to allow yourself to think again once you have cleansed yourself of the usual brainwashing…must be a similar experience for battery hens when they’ve been freed, try it sometime…avoiding the bought and paid for media that is.If you cared to click onto RT, Russia Today, you might find a different coverage style (albeit with their own agenda just as the msm have), indeed listening to this chap, Gearoid O Colmain, for ten minutes would be ten minutes of your life not wasted.
youtube.com/watch?v=L7GAbVhjTSw
If you bother to watch this, look at the interviewing style and compare with how a guest speaker would be treated and how many times they would be interrupted, especially if they were giving the wrong message, on the Beeb or Channel 4.
+1 I watched it…completely different…for over the last 30 years,I only see the tv on the boats or if im passing through the room when my misses is stuck to it.i cant stand it.i never watch sport,the only papers I see are on the boat if im stuck upstairs,or mabey the front page in a petrol station.people don’t realise there being systematically brainwashed for all of their life by the gov,and media.same as how they all just accept their being taxed to death for beer,■■■■,fuel compared to every other country in the world.but then again,if they ddnt watch tv and read newspapers,there wouldn’t be so much waffling in here…
Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of bombing ■■■■ out of them.
James the cat:
the maoster:
Captain Caveman raises an interesting and very valid point there. Money! It costs an awful lot to fund a terrorist organisation and there is ALWAYS a money trail. Why spend millions on munitions when you can spend relatively little and with no risk to troops and collateral damage employ computer geeks to follow the money trail and freeze and seize the money?How do you freeze their assets? I daresay they’ve tried that. These guys probably don’t just have a Barclays Bank account. It’ll be black market stuff from thousands of streams. Oh that and oil. We’d have to stop buying oil from them indirectly as Putin said to America. That’s a small point.
Maybe that Internet lot, anonymous, who post scary messages but ultimately are geeks with taped up glasses can hack a few computers and cause some carnage on a surface level.
Captain Caveman 76:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vApBZlaePecActually, I was thinking more along the lines of bombing [zb] out of them.
James the cat:
the maoster:
Captain Caveman raises an interesting and very valid point there. Money! It costs an awful lot to fund a terrorist organisation and there is ALWAYS a money trail. Why spend millions on munitions when you can spend relatively little and with no risk to troops and collateral damage employ computer geeks to follow the money trail and freeze and seize the money?How do you freeze their assets? I daresay they’ve tried that. These guys probably don’t just have a Barclays Bank account. It’ll be black market stuff from thousands of streams. Oh that and oil. We’d have to stop buying oil from them indirectly as Putin said to America. That’s a small point.
Maybe that Internet lot, anonymous, who post scary messages but ultimately are geeks with taped up glasses can hack a few computers and cause some carnage on a surface level.
It makes great television for the Americans but that’s about it.
we might never be able to freeze their assets,but stopping their giros and shipping them back to france would amount to the same thing for a start.
dieseldog999:
we might never be able to freeze their assets,but stopping their giros and shipping them back to france would amount to the same thing for a start.
I think given who’s name they’re acting in, Islam, the mosques of the U.K. need to stand up and take responsibility in their part and provide more assistance to the UK. IF they’ve nothing to hide they can be proud surely? Except places like Finsbury park are a factory for these idiots and are still trading. Yet a woman is arrested for saying something anti Islamic about a hairdressers? Nice to see we’re funneling our policing resources in an adult fashion
For too long the Muslim community has stood to distance itself by silence following any attacks. At the same time very vocal when it comes to small fry to do with halal meat in Tescos. We’re so used to hearing Muslim “speakers” and educated young females decrying the rights of Muslims any time someone so much as ■■■■■ in their direction. No speaking mouth pieces on air every five minutes now. The silence is defeaning.
I’m not saying all Mosques condone the attacks but a lot silently turn a blind eye because they feel on the fence or feel conflicted. The silence is starting to grate with people and it’s showing as people know the Muslim community has a very loud shouty voice to be used when it chooses. If this terrorist lot acted in the name of Christianity I doubt Canterbury Cathedral would be so quiet.
They need to speak up and help us if they really do feel this is wrong. I doubt a lot of them do and the ones that do are strangled by local pressure.
James the cat:
They need to speak up and help us if they really do feel this is wrong.
In that case we would at least logically have expected to see a mass boycott of the Haj by now.Because of the message contained in Saudi and Iranian type sharia law which obviously goes against all their claimed values of peace and tolerance. 
Meanwhile I won’t be holding my breath.When these are the type of bat zb nutters we’re dealing with. 
the one lesson thats clear to me is that this is not an islamic problem
its a religion problem .
it was christian bomb happy missionaries (blair/bush) who managed to impose their weird ‘democratic’ anarchy on iraq , syria , libya etc . they have blown the lid off the bottle and let the bad guys out .
if you watched your kids get fried in one of those countries you wouldnt be feeling very christian .
across the globe only rastafarians , hindus and pagans can hold their head high and rightly claim their philosophies have done more good than harm .
there needs to be a war on all religion :
ban it in schools altogether .
treat religious indoctrination of kids by parents as child abuse
burn the bloody books
ban animal torturing diets and imprison those who practise halal/kosher foods . they are already illegal butchery methods if religion is not invoked as a defence
remove bishops from parliament
treat religious assembly as a public order offence . if 6 people gather to demand legal drugs or animal rights they can be dispersed . why is religion treated differently .
ban head covers . if i go in a bank with a helmet on i am not served
treat all days as equal and stop people having sundays or saturdays or fridays off for religious reasons
reform discrimination laws to exclude religion . its a choice not a human fundamental .
prosecute all the kiddy fiddlers from rome .
prosecute those who mutilate boys and girls ■■■■■■■■
dont allow any religion as a valid reason to claim asylum
smash the CofE and confiscate their wealth
stop the media brainwashing that religion is a good thing
religion should be treated like ■■■ …
if consenting adults want to mess about in the privacy of own bedroom fine …
but if they do it in public they should be locked up !!
Agree with banning religion in schools. What-s the point to it? In one lesson "God made the world (wave palm trees and sing “hallelujah” children). In the next lesson, the kids are taught how species evolved. Great, two hours of the kids lives wasted on contradiction.
And why do schools proclaim “C of E aided”? The church gives a tiny amount of cash compared to what we pay towards them, yet they have a say in what hypocrisy some bloke in a dog collar tells them during assembly.
boredwivdrivin:
the one lesson thats clear to me is that this is not an islamic problemits a religion problem . +10 on that
it was christian bomb happy missionaries (blair/bush) who managed to impose their weird ‘democratic’ anarchy on iraq , syria , libya etc . they have blown the lid off the bottle and let the bad guys out .
if you watched your kids get fried in one of those countries you wouldnt be feeling very christian .
across the globe only rastafarians , hindus and pagans can hold their head high and rightly claim their philosophies have done more good than harm .
there needs to be a war on all religion :
ban it in schools altogether .
treat religious indoctrination of kids by parents as child abuse
burn the bloody books
ban animal torturing diets and imprison those who practise halal/kosher foods . they are already illegal butchery methods if religion is not invoked as a defence
remove bishops from parliament
treat religious assembly as a public order offence . if 6 people gather to demand legal drugs or animal rights they can be dispersed . why is religion treated differently .
ban head covers . if i go in a bank with a helmet on i am not served
treat all days as equal and stop people having sundays or saturdays or fridays off for religious reasons
reform discrimination laws to exclude religion . its a choice not a human fundamental .
prosecute all the kiddy fiddlers from rome .
prosecute those who mutilate boys and girls ■■■■■■■■
dont allow any religion as a valid reason to claim asylum
smash the CofE and confiscate their wealth
stop the media brainwashing that religion is a good thing
religion should be treated like ■■■ …
if consenting adults want to mess about in the privacy of own bedroom fine …
but if they do it in public they should be locked up !!
An interesting fact:
ISLAMIC TERRORISM: WHY THERE IS NONE IN JAPAN
As they used to say: Fiendishly clever these Japanese.
Well thats sad, one of the wealthiest and advanced nations don’t have guns to protect itself. What is your opinion on guns for all UK police, I know its long tradition to not have them, but in this days and times?
Our police don’t have the guns to protect us, writes Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner KEVIN HURLEY
Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article … URLEY.html
boredwivdrivin:
the one lesson thats clear to me is that this is not an islamic problemits a religion problem .
it was christian bomb happy missionaries (blair/bush) who managed to impose their weird ‘democratic’ anarchy on iraq , syria , libya etc . they have blown the lid off the bottle and let the bad guys out .
if you watched your kids get fried in one of those countries you wouldnt be feeling very christian .
across the globe only rastafarians , hindus and pagans can hold their head high and rightly claim their philosophies have done more good than harm .
there needs to be a war on all religion :
ban it in schools altogether .
treat religious indoctrination of kids by parents as child abuse
burn the bloody books
ban animal torturing diets and imprison those who practise halal/kosher foods . they are already illegal butchery methods if religion is not invoked as a defence
remove bishops from parliament
treat religious assembly as a public order offence . if 6 people gather to demand legal drugs or animal rights they can be dispersed . why is religion treated differently .
ban head covers . if i go in a bank with a helmet on i am not served
treat all days as equal and stop people having sundays or saturdays or fridays off for religious reasons
reform discrimination laws to exclude religion . its a choice not a human fundamental .
prosecute all the kiddy fiddlers from rome .
prosecute those who mutilate boys and girls ■■■■■■■■
dont allow any religion as a valid reason to claim asylum
smash the CofE and confiscate their wealth
stop the media brainwashing that religion is a good thing
religion should be treated like ■■■ …
if consenting adults want to mess about in the privacy of own bedroom fine …
but if they do it in public they should be locked up !!
You seem to have left out the Devil Worshipers for some reason let alone the fact that Atheist Commy regimes don’t exactly have a good record.I’ll go for the Japanese immigration policy idea.
Dolph:
Well thats sad, one of the wealthiest and advanced nations don’t have guns to protect itself. What is your opinion on guns for all UK police, I know its long tradition to not have them, but in this days and times?Our police don’t have the guns to protect us, writes Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner KEVIN HURLEY
Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article … URLEY.html
More like Surrey as usual setting itself up as a target to take the potential heat off of zb London.IE he might as well have said look over here hit us don’t hit them.
On that note an armed population like the Americans,Swiss or Israelis presents a bigger threat to the nutters than armed police.As for the calibre issue the small calibre idea also seems to be the same for the military not just the police with 5.56 being considered adequate by NATO.When an old WW2 BAR and Tommy Gun or 1970’s FN would probably present a bigger threat to the enemy in that regard.
Carryfast:
Dolph:
Well thats sad, one of the wealthiest and advanced nations don’t have guns to protect itself. What is your opinion on guns for all UK police, I know its long tradition to not have them, but in this days and times?Our police don’t have the guns to protect us, writes Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner KEVIN HURLEY
Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article … URLEY.htmlMore like Surrey as usual setting itself up as a target to take the potential heat off of zb London.IE he might as well have said look over here hit us don’t hit them.
On that note an armed population like the Americans,Swiss or Israelis presents a bigger threat to the nutters than armed police.As for the calibre issue the small calibre idea also seems to be the same for the military not just the police with 5.56 being considered adequate by NATO.When an old WW2 BAR and Tommy Gun or 1970’s FN would probably present a bigger threat to the enemy in that regard.
Regarding the caliber he is talking BS, 5.56 is more the adequate to do the job. I don’t think that armed people in Europe(any country) is good idea. 44 million muslims live in Europe, most of them citizens, now imagine 1 million radicalized and armed like the rest of the people, its gonna be bloody civil war. We are simply not ready for it, even though I like gun, grew up around guns, and fire a lot of them in BG and US.
I like Japan way of dealing with muslims, yeah we can have guns but only after a decade of JAP style laws.
Dolph:
Carryfast:
Dolph:
Well thats sad, one of the wealthiest and advanced nations don’t have guns to protect itself. What is your opinion on guns for all UK police, I know its long tradition to not have them, but in this days and times?Our police don’t have the guns to protect us, writes Surrey Police and Crime Commissioner KEVIN HURLEY
Read more: dailymail.co.uk/news/article … URLEY.htmlMore like Surrey as usual setting itself up as a target to take the potential heat off of zb London.IE he might as well have said look over here hit us don’t hit them.
On that note an armed population like the Americans,Swiss or Israelis presents a bigger threat to the nutters than armed police.As for the calibre issue the small calibre idea also seems to be the same for the military not just the police with 5.56 being considered adequate by NATO.When an old WW2 BAR and Tommy Gun or 1970’s FN would probably present a bigger threat to the enemy in that regard.
Regarding the caliber he is talking BS, 5.56 is more the adequate to do the job. I don’t think that armed people in Europe(any country) is good idea. 44 million muslims live in Europe, most of them citizens, now imagine 1 million radicalized and armed like the rest of the people, its gonna be bloody civil war. We are simply not ready for it, even though I like gun, grew up around guns, and fire a lot of them in BG and US.
I like Japan way of dealing with muslims, yeah we can have guns but only after a decade of JAP style laws.
As America shows there are arguments for and against an armed population but in this case we’ve got nothing to lose because the Jihadists are armed and it’s only their potential adversaries who aren’t.As for the calibre thing the fact is bigger is better as shown ultimately in everything from small arms to artillery.On that note I’d compromise in saying that we need the Japanese immigration policy to be applied retrospectively.Together with being happy to see and pay for at least every Surrey officer who chooses to be armed with and trained to use a 7.62 FN rifle and pistol of choice at least until that Japanese immigration policy has been implemented and carried out. 
Carryfast:
.As for the calibre issue the small calibre idea also seems to be the same for the military not just the police with 5.56 being considered adequate by NATO.When an old WW2 BAR and Tommy Gun or 1970’s FN would probably present a bigger threat to the enemy in that regard.
I haven’t checked Wikepedia but I’m pretty sure that there’s never been a single instance of anyone after being shot with a 5.56 round getting up and saying “thank ■■■■ that was a 5.56, if it’d been 7.62 or even 9mm I’d be in serious trouble now!”
On that note an armed population like the Americans,Swiss or Israelis presents a bigger threat to the nutters than armed police …
Maybe time to call down the armed gangs from Manchester then