Dolph:
Deeireland:
Dolph:
I am horrified by the attacks in Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones. I stand in solidarity with the people of France.Totally agree.100%
They have put the fear of allah into us all.which is what they wanted!
[zb] savages.No they have not and never will!
L’union fait la force.
Yes they have!
That’s why they have to be takin down asap.
Deeireland:
Dolph:
Deeireland:
Dolph:
I am horrified by the attacks in Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones. I stand in solidarity with the people of France.Totally agree.100%
They have put the fear of allah into us all.which is what they wanted!
[zb] savages.No they have not and never will!
L’union fait la force.Yes they have!
That’s why they have to be takin down asap.
Relax, take a deep breath of air, have glass of wine/beer/whisky.
They can be taken down if a dictator controls every country in Middle East, its sad, but its a fact. When Saddam and Assad were in full control of their countries we had no isis…
Relax, take a deep breath of air, have glass of wine/beer/whisky.
They can be taken down if a dictator controls every country in Middle East, its sad, but its a fact. When Saddam and Assad were in full control of their countries we had no isis…
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I agree.
Tell me this,I don’t meet many Muslims in the land that time forgot.
What’s it like sitting beside one ,say at a football match or a shopping centre .
Just curious .
Maybe I’m being paranoid, but!
They haven’t put the fear into me chief. I’m off to Dubai tomorrow. And if I fancied Egypt, I would go there.
I for one will never be cowed and dictated to by a bunch of cowardly fundamentalists. The Beaver would rather be blown to pieces than be afraid of terrorists.
[zb] them. Vive la France.
Dolph:
Deeireland:
Dolph:
I am horrified by the attacks in Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones. I stand in solidarity with the people of France.Totally agree.100%
They have put the fear of allah into us all.which is what they wanted!
[zb] savages.No they have not and never will!
L’union fait la force.
Allah is that some kind of illegal drug? if it is it would go a long long way in explaining why ,Other than that it’s complete bollax , RE a sadam type to keep them in line, why can’t such be manufactured by the west ? and given were needed some un documented military back up, but that would only be a short term fix
Why isn’t it possible given all the technological advances for the security services to basically implant a GPS tracking device or even better inside these returning isis members , obviously there would be an anti tamper (booby trap) fitted to that, and a nuke button,?
Deeireland:
Relax, take a deep breath of air, have glass of wine/beer/whisky.
They can be taken down if a dictator controls every country in Middle East, its sad, but its a fact. When Saddam and Assad were in full control of their countries we had no isis…
I agree.
Tell me this,I don’t meet many Muslims in the land that time forgot.
What’s it like sitting beside one ,say at a football match or a shopping centre .
Just curious .
Maybe I’m be paranoid, but!
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It depends of the muslims, as trivial as this may sound.
I have worked and still work with Bulgarian muslims, they are not like the freaks from the middle east, some are brainwashed and went to Saudi Arabia for religious studies, but not many. The worst of all isthe politicians who turn them away from their Bulgarian(European) way of life and turn them into followers of the Koran for personal gain. Many gypsy’s are becoming muslim here for money…
Example:On of my colleagues(jurist), beautiful, ■■■■, with short skirt and muslim.
Maybe fear is the wrong word.
Deeireland:
Dolph:
I am horrified by the attacks in Paris tonight. My thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones. I stand in solidarity with the people of France.Totally agree.100%
They have put the fear of allah into us all.which is what they wanted!
[zb] savages.
I don’t fear no murdering terrorist scum,
faced them before.
Give me a H&K33 couple hundred rounds of 5.56mm point me to a cell of them and its “sloting time” no bother.
Carryfast:
The-Snowman:
Carryfast:
The-Snowman:
Carryfast:
or the Irish nationalist forces who were justifiably fighting for their country.You’ve gone too far now carryfast. Justifying everything the IRA did? Have you completely lost the plot? Just because they didnt hijack planes doesn’t make them any different to any other terrorist group,and that’s all they were. There is NO difference from planting live bombs in a crowded market place to opening fire with a sub machine gun. Any “group” who use devices with the sole aim of killing as many innocent people as possible all fall under the same umbrella. Terrorists. There is NO justification for purposfully targeting innocent people going about their daily lives, no matter what your beliefs or what you think your “fighting” for.
If your saying the IRA were justified in their actions then your saying ISIS are justified also. Which is it?You seem to have deliberately missed the finer points of detail that I was referring to the Nationalist side in the Irish fight for Independence and the resulting Anglo Irish treaty of 1921.‘Not’ the anti treaty continuity factions which followed which is what you’re referring to.Unless you’re saying that our alliance with America,which also came into being by exactly the same process,also justifies support of Jihad.
So your saying you DONT agree with the what the IRA did? Because this morning you said something along the lines of “at least didnt fly planes into buildings and gave coded warnings” as if that somehow made their actions justified. Im not interested in what happened when. I want YOUR own opinions. Because maybe im reading what you’ve put wrong but it looks like your almost condoning the IRA. Which,as ive said, means you also condone ISIS. The IRA used bombs to “make their point”. So do ISIS. They are both as bad as each other and before you lecture us anymore about anything, I think we have a right to know your own opinions of the IRA actions because you cant defend ones actions without condoning the others
Saying at least they didn’t fly planes into buildings,or carry out machine gun massacres of the general population,or generally use bombs as a method of intentionally causing injury or murder,as opposed to material damage,isn’t condoning anything.It is actually stating the difference in the level of the threat.
You better Google
“Kingsmills Massacre”
Carryfast!!!
No its not the wrong word mate. Its exactly what these scum want. Our politicians, and those of our ’ allies ’ are afraid.
I think you will find that the majority of Brits are not.
Evil Crimes Of The British Empire,
The Bengal Famine
In 1943, a deadly famine swept the Bengal region of modern East India and Bangladesh. Between one and three million people died in a tragedy that was completely preventable. At the time, the extent of suffering was put down to an incompetent British government too busy dealing with a war to look after its empire properly. But in 2010 a new book came out claiming the lack of famine relief was deliberate and that the deaths of those millions had been intentionally engineered by one man: Winston Churchill.
According to the book, Churchill refused to divert supplies away from already well-supplied British troops, saying the war effort wouldn’t allow it. This in itself wouldn’t be too damning, but at the same time he allegedly blocked American and Canadian ships from delivering aid to India either. Nor would he allow the Indians to help themselves: the colonial government forbade the country from using its own ships or currency reserves to help the starving masses. Meanwhile, London pushed up the price of grain with hugely inflated purchases, making it unaffordable for the dying and destitute. Most-chillingly of all, when the government of Delhi telegrammed to tell him people were dying, Churchill allegedly only replied to ask why Gandhi hadn’t died yet.
If all this is true—and documents support it—then Winston Churchill, the British war hero who stood up to the Nazis, may well have starved to death as many innocent people as Stalin did in the Ukrainian genocide. Could the man who held out against Hitler really be capable of such an atrocity? Judging by the rest of this list, it wouldn’t be surprising.
Saying at least they didn’t fly planes into buildings,or carry out machine gun massacres of the general population,or generally use bombs as a method of intentionally causing injury or murder,as opposed to material damage,isn’t condoning anything.It is actually stating the difference in the level of the threat.
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You better Google
“Kingsmills Massacre”
Carryfast!!!
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Or try googling the shank hill butchers and the committee .
Carryfast:
Freight Dog:
There’s nothing fine about the difference. A man seeking to die is a far more dangerous animal than a man who is willing to risk death but ultimately values his life and seeks to live.These Jihadists don’t believe “I’m going to die doing this but I don’t care”. They believe “I WANT to die doing this, I DO care, I seek to die”.
Try using any deterrent of violence on that mindset. The fear of death and fear of pain has historically been the mediator in many campaigns, including the Second World War. No one WANTS to be killed.
The face of terrorism changed when it was realized terrorists moved from hijacking jets, parking them up and holding hostages to taking themselves and everyone on board. These terrorists don’t seek to live.
Talking of MAD. This fundamental difference is why in the history of the nuclear stand off we are all still here. If one entity in that conflict was seeking to die rather than willing to die. And that entity held “the button” then there would have been one ending.
The logical conclusion of that would be that Islam is ultimately a suicide cult that either wants Jihad to be victorious or they take out us with them.To which the answer is either surrender or meet fire with fire and carry out a strategic nuclear launch on Saudi and Iran without warning.They’ll obviously welcome the instant sunshine.
Seriously no I don’t see any difference in the power of being willing/happy/don’t give a zb about dying assuming the cold war had gone hot than meeting the Islamic threat head on with the same/close enough mentality as their’s.Which again I’d guess matches the thoughts of the IDF based on what happened at Massada and which is why Israel is still there surrounded by these nutters.
Well given my point started when talking from a defence/intelligence view the difference is very important.
Put it this way, the difference is important enough that without going into detail it is mentioned in security training. And the difference has directly changed the way certainly in aviation security is handled in certain phases of the operation.
You know the phrase “know thy enemy”
Deeireland:
Saying at least they didn’t fly planes into buildings,or carry out machine gun massacres of the general population,or generally use bombs as a method of intentionally causing injury or murder,as opposed to material damage,isn’t condoning anything.It is actually stating the difference in the level of the threat.
You better Google
“Kingsmills Massacre”
Carryfast!!!
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Or try googling the shank hill butchers and the committee .
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Shankill Butchers didn’t have guns or bombs, terrorist scum all the same!!!
Never heard of “The Committee” who are they when we’re at home??
BillyHunt:
My point exactly, He’s trying to pass off all the atrocities committed by Irish terrorists as different & acceptable because he agrees with their cause, while denouncing attacks by another group of like minded murderers.
Obviously he cannot recall the bombings all over the north of Ireland & England, the gunmen going into pubs & spraying machine guns at anyone inside, the blowing up of nightclubs full of innocent young Irish people He’s just another troll of the worst kind.
Firstly having been there in the day the usual well known MO of the IRA was venues with military connections,military targets,and in most cases trying to avoid causing casualties among the general population.As opposed to the Jihadist MO which is all about the intention to create as many casualties as possible across the population spectrum.While as I said that’s a statement of fact regards the level of the threat.While you’re obviously on some bs pro immigration crusade that’s trying to make connections where none exist to divert attention from that agenda’s role in bringing the far more serious threat in question within our borders.However at least the next time that the Jihadists decide to go on a bombing rampage hopefully they’ll send out a coded warning first so the area can be evacuated.
Big Truck:
Deeireland:
Saying at least they didn’t fly planes into buildings,or carry out machine gun massacres of the general population,or generally use bombs as a method of intentionally causing injury or murder,as opposed to material damage,isn’t condoning anything.It is actually stating the difference in the level of the threat.You better Google
“Kingsmills Massacre”
Carryfast!!!
Or try googling the shank hill butchers and the committee .
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Shankill Butchers didn’t have guns or bombs, terrorist scum all the same!!!
Never heard of “The Committee” who are they when we’re at home??
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Your right!
They just used knifes and urine
Carryfast:
BillyHunt:
My point exactly, He’s trying to pass off all the atrocities committed by Irish terrorists as different & acceptable because he agrees with their cause, while denouncing attacks by another group of like minded murderers.
Obviously he cannot recall the bombings all over the north of Ireland & England, the gunmen going into pubs & spraying machine guns at anyone inside, the blowing up of nightclubs full of innocent young Irish people He’s just another troll of the worst kind.Firstly having been there in the day the usual well known MO of the IRA was venues with military connections,military targets,and in most cases trying to avoid causing casualties among the general population.As opposed to the Jihadist MO which is all about the intention to create as many casualties as possible across the population spectrum.While as I said that’s a statement of fact regards the level of the threat.While you’re obviously on some bs pro immigration crusade that’s trying to make connections where none exist to divert attention from that agenda’s role in bringing the far more serious threat in question within our borders.However at least the next time that the Jihadists decide to go on a bombing rampage hopefully they’ll send out a coded warning first so the area can be evacuated.
What “military connection” did
La Mon House hotel have where 13 innocent people burned to death in a firebomb inferno some 3mile from my house■■?
Freight Dog:
Seriously no I don’t see any difference in the power of being willing/happy/don’t give a zb about dying assuming the cold war had gone hot than meeting the Islamic threat head on with the same/close enough mentality as their’s.Which again I’d guess matches the thoughts of the IDF based on what happened at Massada and which is why Israel is still there surrounded by these nutters.
Well given my point started when talking from a defence/intelligence view the difference is very important.
Put it this way, the difference is important enough that without going into detail it is mentioned in security training. And the difference has directly changed the way certainly in aviation security is handled in certain phases of the operation.
You know the phrase “know thy enemy”
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As I said my ideas seem to be based on the Israeli model of how to deal with these nutters not zb Merkel’s,Hollande’s or Cameron’s and it shows. 
Deeireland:
Big Truck:
Deeireland:
Saying at least they didn’t fly planes into buildings,or carry out machine gun massacres of the general population,or generally use bombs as a method of intentionally causing injury or murder,as opposed to material damage,isn’t condoning anything.It is actually stating the difference in the level of the threat.You better Google
“Kingsmills Massacre”
Carryfast!!!Or try googling the shank hill butchers and the committee .
Shankill Butchers didn’t have guns or bombs, terrorist scum all the same!!!
Never heard of “The Committee” who are they when we’re at home??
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Your right!
They just used knifes and urine
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You’ve lost me on the urine bit!!!
The big encyclopaedia is your friend .ie Google
