Bewick:
I am told that you could get 100,000 miles plus out of a set of tyres on a 4-in-line! Thats some cracking shots of the buisness end of a 4-in-line.Bewick.
hiya,
They did’nt scrub much Dennis but still horrible things tyre wear as you say was minimal they was seemingly prone to “slow speed roll-over”.
thanks harry long retired.
Good clear photo’s of the axles, you can see on the middle pic the circular plate above the lower spring, this is the oscillating part to allow the set of wheels to move up and down, which looking at the left set of wheels you can see they are slightly tilted on the uneven ground. Clever idea but the amount of movement may have contributed to the unstableness during cornering and with the double springing the set up was much better suited to low loaders, a classic trailer design all the same.
Franky.
harry_gill:
Bewick:
I am told that you could get 100,000 miles plus out of a set of tyres on a 4-in-line! Thats some cracking shots of the buisness end of a 4-in-line.Bewick.hiya,
They did’nt scrub much Dennis but still horrible things tyre wear as you say was minimal they was seemingly prone to “slow speed roll-over”.
thanks harry long retired.
I wouldn’t have worried one bit about setting you off with a Beaver and 4-in-line “H” 15ton one drop Surrey docks!!! In their own way the 4-in-line was an invention of the time as the Max GVW was only 24ton so this trailer was the ultimate load carrier.The later tandem “4” (we had one) was only margionally more stable when you had high and heavy load on.Cheers Dennis.
Bewick:
harry_gill:
Bewick:
I am told that you could get 100,000 miles plus out of a set of tyres on a 4-in-line! Thats some cracking shots of the buisness end of a 4-in-line.Bewick.hiya,
They did’nt scrub much Dennis but still horrible things tyre wear as you say was minimal they was seemingly prone to “slow speed roll-over”.
thanks harry long retired.I wouldn’t have worried one bit about setting you off with a Beaver and 4-in-line “H” 15ton one drop Surrey docks!!! In their own way the 4-in-line was an invention of the time as the Max GVW was only 24ton so this trailer was the ultimate load carrier.The later tandem “4” (we had one) was only margionally more stable when you had high and heavy load on.Cheers Dennis.
hiya,
Howay Dennis at least a 180 Atki day cab’ll do good pub doing digs near the docks it’s still 1968 is’nt it.
thanks harry long retired.
harry_gill:
Bewick:
harry_gill:
Bewick:
I am told that you could get 100,000 miles plus out of a set of tyres on a 4-in-line! Thats some cracking shots of the buisness end of a 4-in-line.Bewick.hiya,
They did’nt scrub much Dennis but still horrible things tyre wear as you say was minimal they was seemingly prone to “slow speed roll-over”.
thanks harry long retired.I wouldn’t have worried one bit about setting you off with a Beaver and 4-in-line “H” 15ton one drop Surrey docks!!! In their own way the 4-in-line was an invention of the time as the Max GVW was only 24ton so this trailer was the ultimate load carrier.The later tandem “4” (we had one) was only margionally more stable when you had high and heavy load on.Cheers Dennis.
hiya,
Howay Dennis at least a 180 Atki day cab’ll do good pub doing digs near the docks it’s still 1968 is’nt it.
thanks harry long retired.
If I was to go for Max payload “H” (16 ton) you’d be going down the road with a Comet,with eaton 2 spd of course!Dennis.
Bewick:
harry_gill:
Bewick:
harry_gill:
Bewick:
I am told that you could get 100,000 miles plus out of a set of tyres on a 4-in-line! Thats some cracking shots of the buisness end of a 4-in-line.Bewick.hiya,
They did’nt scrub much Dennis but still horrible things tyre wear as you say was minimal they was seemingly prone to “slow speed roll-over”.
thanks harry long retired.I wouldn’t have worried one bit about setting you off with a Beaver and 4-in-line “H” 15ton one drop Surrey docks!!! In their own way the 4-in-line was an invention of the time as the Max GVW was only 24ton so this trailer was the ultimate load carrier.The later tandem “4” (we had one) was only margionally more stable when you had high and heavy load on.Cheers Dennis.
hiya,
Howay Dennis at least a 180 Atki day cab’ll do good pub doing digs near the docks it’s still 1968 is’nt it.
thanks harry long retired.If I was to go for Max payload “H” (16 ton) you’d be going down the road with a Comet,with eaton 2 spd of course!Dennis.
hiya,
Remember Fearings of Burnley buying a second hand Comet previously owned by Charlies of Abereen must have been an old fish motor, never drove it but did it fly i think someone out of the workshops mentioned it was diffed-up with a Leyland tiger back end, so bring on the Comet Dennis, i can drive owt so long as it’s ancient, you know “two of a kind”.
thanks harry long retired.
harry_gill:
Bewick:
harry_gill:
Bewick:
harry_gill:
Bewick:
I am told that you could get 100,000 miles plus out of a set of tyres on a 4-in-line! Thats some cracking shots of the buisness end of a 4-in-line.Bewick.hiya,
They did’nt scrub much Dennis but still horrible things tyre wear as you say was minimal they was seemingly prone to “slow speed roll-over”.
thanks harry long retired.I wouldn’t have worried one bit about setting you off with a Beaver and 4-in-line “H” 15ton one drop Surrey docks!!! In their own way the 4-in-line was an invention of the time as the Max GVW was only 24ton so this trailer was the ultimate load carrier.The later tandem “4” (we had one) was only margionally more stable when you had high and heavy load on.Cheers Dennis.
hiya,
Howay Dennis at least a 180 Atki day cab’ll do good pub doing digs near the docks it’s still 1968 is’nt it.
thanks harry long retired.If I was to go for Max payload “H” (16 ton) you’d be going down the road with a Comet,with eaton 2 spd of course!Dennis.
hiya,
Remember Fearings of Burnley buying a second hand Comet previously owned by Charlies of Abereen must have been an old fish motor, never drove it but did it fly i think someone out of the workshops mentioned it was diffed-up with a Leyland tiger back end, so bring on the Comet Dennis, i can drive owt so long as it’s ancient, you know “two of a kind”.
thanks harry long retired.
Aye “H” I’m sure you still the posess the deft skills required to nurse and cajole an under-powered,under braked and overloaded motor to the “Smoke” and back without coming to grief!! Cheers dennis.
hiya,
Dennis you have spelled “deft” as in deft skills correctly have’nt you??.
thanks harry long retired.
harry_gill:
hiya,
Dennis you have spelled “deft” as in deft skills correctly have’nt you??.
thanks harry long retired.
On second thoughts “H” should the word have been Daft!!! Dennis.
Bewick:
harry_gill:
hiya,
Dennis you have spelled “deft” as in deft skills correctly have’nt you??.
thanks harry long retired.On second thoughts “H” should the word have been Daft!!! Dennis.
hiya,
Yes Dennis i think it should in my case read “daft” followed by “as a brush”.
thanks harry long retired.
harry_gill:
Bewick:
harry_gill:
hiya,
Dennis you have spelled “deft” as in deft skills correctly have’nt you??.
thanks harry long retired.On second thoughts “H” should the word have been Daft!!! Dennis.
hiya,
Yes Dennis i think it should in my case read “daft” followed by “as a brush”.
thanks harry long retired.
hiya,
Now Dennis maybe you can answer me a question that has puzzled me for a long time, when i worked for BRS Consett formerley Siddle C Cookes we had overlength trailers not trombone’s just normal flat beds and these varied in length from the normal 40footers to 45, 50 and 55 footers there was 60 and 75 footers as well the latter two were just used for special long loads but the 45, 50, and 55s were used on a daily basis on general haulage i regularly pulled them on journey work i thought anything over the legal 40s would have come under construction and use and would only be allowed to work when the load was the length of the trailer and any movement should have been notifiable, it did’nt seem to apply to us and we all used them as you would a normal 40 footer as i said can never remember anyone being pulled i certainly never had problems.
thanks harry long retired.
hiya,
Still waiting for Dennis to put his Mr Bewick hat on and answer my previous question in the post above, or someone must have the answer, please.
thanks harry long retired.
harry_gill:
hiya,
Still waiting for Dennis to put his Mr Bewick hat on and answer my previous question in the post above, or someone must have the answer, please.
thanks harry long retired.
Hiya "H"sorry I’ve not got back to you on your query,had a visit from from one of my ex drivers who retired 15 years ago and we always have a good “crack”!!!As far as your question about trailers longer than 40ft(at the time you are referring) I always accepted that you could only use them for overlength,indivisable loads and they couldn’t be used for general traffic that could be loaded on a normal length trailer!You suprise me that you never got a pull off the old bill.I remember Strathclyde Motor Services of Motherwell running some long’un’s but from memory they were always on long lengths of steel when I saw them.So you did run “bent” on BRS “H”----well thats nothing to be proud of then is it-----I don’t know how youv’e got the cheek to come on this site and rub shoulders with some of the finest,straightest,consiencious lads you could wish to find this side of the Isle of Man!!Why some of them will be shattered to learn that one of their illustrious number is a former “cowboy” Cheers Dennis.
Got to agree with you Bewick, Waugh’ (Newcastle) had 45’ that only left the yard on ‘special types’ it was often used by Consett plate mill. Obviously when Cooky’s couldnt cope!! Oops .
kevmac47:
Got to agree with you Bewick, Waugh’ (Newcastle) had 45’ that only left the yard on ‘special types’ it was often used by Consett plate mill. Obviously when Cooky’s couldnt cope!! Oops .
hiya,
Well “kevmac47” i think the majority of our trailers was 45,50 and 55 footers we had 40s but they was in the minority, remember all loads out of Hownsgill plate mill had to be sheeted even if going to a known outside storage delivery, must have been to hide the fact that nothing about the load was anywhere near the length of the trailer, if i managed to get one normal length trailer a month i was lucky, and thanks Dennis “cowboy” you’ve made my day i always had aspirations of grandeur, it took a long time but i finally made it.
thanks harry long retired.
The axles on the front of these cement trailers are four-in-line axles, the trucks and trailers are owned by Milburn NZ Ltd which was The Guardian Cement company Ltd from Westport on the westcoast of the south Is NZ
Hi Bewick and Harry, on Strathclyde we had 65ft Trombones and 70 footers authorised under Construction and use Regs as far as I can remember going away from your Depot it had to be Indivisable Loads ,coming home you were allowed anything.On Davis Bros when the Mercedes 1418 Normal control came on the Road it was slightly over the limit with a 40 footer on 49ft 2.6ins I think and the Ministry were always stopping us, then maybe It was because it was Davis,Harry you were were very lucky to get away with pulling anything over the Legal limit on General.
Ben.
ben walker:
Hi Bewick and Harry, on Strathclyde we had 65ft Trombones and 70 footers authorised under Construction and use Regs as far as I can remember going away from your Depot it had to be Indivisable Loads ,coming home you were allowed anything.On Davis Bros when the Mercedes 1418 Normal control came on the Road it was slightly over the limit with a 40 footer on 49ft 2.6ins I think and the Ministry were always stopping us, then maybe It was because it was Davis,Harry you were were very lucky to get away with pulling anything over the Legal limit on General.Ben.
Hiya Ben,very interesting comments,typical of “old bill” to pull something a few inches over length and the likes of “H” (for example) would go sailing by with a 60 footer on loaded with tatties or some other general load!!!I think a lot of the longer wheelbase tractors were or were close to being overlength when the 40 footers came on the scene.I wonder if it was because of the 30inch king pin prior to the later setting of 40inch on tri-axles.You suprise me about being able to re-load anything on the return leg though! I didn’t know that! Cheers Dennis.
atkinsonb:
The axles on the front of these cement trailers are four-in-line axles, the trucks and trailers are owned by Milburn NZ Ltd which was The Guardian Cement company Ltd from Westport on the westcoast of the south Is NZ
That Merc tank outfit is one the strangest combinations I’ve ever seen!!! Bewick.
Hi Dennis might be wrong in last statement,memory not so good no doubt somebody on here will know.might be thinking years ago of the 40 Footer before it was legal,
Ben