For the Royal Mail drivers

Shandy123:
As usual, a lot of people on here, who obviously know [zb] all thats relevant about a subject giving their opinion from the comfort of their armchair.
They are worried about the new executive that’s been brought in as an axe man, fresh from screwing up the TACOS of workers at tesco and Glasgow Rangers.
He’s already trying to divide and conquer by splitting parcelforce away from the rest of royal mail group as ‘a seperate legal entity’. Ostensibly to “make it more nimble”, but anyone who believes that is naive in the extreme.
It’s the thin end of the wedge. Next it will be “Wembly Distribution Centre, Ltd.”, and “Daventry DC Ltd.” etc. Etc. Indeed he’s made them all separate, he can remove the union’s power bit by bit, before commencing the usual race to the bottom seen in every other player in the industry.
Instead of criticising them, for being ungrateful, we should be backing them, in the hope that the existence of decent TACOS jobs in our industry makes other hauliers pay a decent wage, to prevent a hemmeorage of good staff.
Rather than saying that then striking out balloting “■■■■■■ you off”, why not look a bit deeper. The continual reduction in our industry’s pay and conditions in real terms and absolute terms should be “■■■■■■■ you off” more.

Welcome to the private sector where you have to provide a better service at a lower price than your competitors.

My understanding was that the recent RM strike ballot was a very high percentage in favour of striking, and one a very high turnout…

Who can then say on the shop floor “I’m ■■■■■■ off that I have to strike”?

The moment you say stuff like THAT - you’ve let the firm know that "this is only a half-hearted attempt to get some concessions…

If there WERE a strike at Christmas time - then RM wouldn’t be able to get agency cover in - as it is the same full time drivers acting as “assessors” and “acting managers” that’ll be at the picket - refusing to “induct” any fresh agency bods that might turn up…

I was quite shocked to find an unusually LOW number of Eastern European agency drivers around RM at different depots I was running to last Christmas…

Plenty of Non-EU migrant INDOOR workers though… It’s not about “Immigration” then, but maybe something else I can’t quite put my finger on as yet…

Own Account Driver:

Shandy123:
As usual, a lot of people on here, who obviously know [zb] all thats relevant about a subject giving their opinion from the comfort of their armchair.
They are worried about the new executive that’s been brought in as an axe man, fresh from screwing up the TACOS of workers at tesco and Glasgow Rangers.
He’s already trying to divide and conquer by splitting parcelforce away from the rest of royal mail group as ‘a seperate legal entity’. Ostensibly to “make it more nimble”, but anyone who believes that is naive in the extreme.
It’s the thin end of the wedge. Next it will be “Wembly Distribution Centre, Ltd.”, and “Daventry DC Ltd.” etc. Etc. Indeed he’s made them all separate, he can remove the union’s power bit by bit, before commencing the usual race to the bottom seen in every other player in the industry.
Instead of criticising them, for being ungrateful, we should be backing them, in the hope that the existence of decent TACOS jobs in our industry makes other hauliers pay a decent wage, to prevent a hemmeorage of good staff.
Rather than saying that then striking out balloting “■■■■■■ you off”, why not look a bit deeper. The continual reduction in our industry’s pay and conditions in real terms and absolute terms should be “■■■■■■■ you off” more.

Welcome to the private sector where you have to provide a better service at a lower price than your competitors.

Tell me, where does that cycle ultimately lead us?

That’s right: everyone on ■■■■ wages and long hours.

I wonder why many people know it as the Royal Fail?

According to reports losing a colossal amount of cash monthly. Like all the parcel giants have to improve, streamline , as the big behemoth Amazon is just waiting to pounce & takeover.

My mrs & daughter and the company they work fall have various deliveries into them from all the parcel companies every day .
The worst by far they say for not turning up on time ( if at all ) are Royal Mail . This strike is really not helping there cause I think they are in big do do , like people have said Amazon and others are just waiting in the wings .

Think some of the regulations need looking at too. Like I mean do we really need a mail delivery on a Saturday? And if so is it fair that it’s only RM that are obliged by the universal service obligation?

I cant imagine many feet on the street posties minding that their job has become Monday - Friday instead of Monday to Saturday with a floating odd day off in the week, at least that’s how it was when I was a postie anyway. I know I certainly wouldn’t have minded and I bet it would save a fair but on running costs too.

Downstream Access is the chokehold the rest of the market has over Royal Mail:

"Royal Mail must deliver it’s competitor’s mail at a loss to itself, due to the “final mile” delivery monopoly they have.

That means that delivery drivers of the same competitor firms - can now deliver what they can using their self-employed van drivers (no risk to the non-employer eh?) as well as simply “post stuff in red pillarboxes” that otherwise would end up in the “Too Hard Box”…

I reckon it is legally impossible for RM to ever make a tidy profit ever again, “losses from running an expensive unionized workforce” - be damned!

Got a letter through the post this week…

Yes, as expected - the Royal Mail pension fund - were one of those pension managers who donked away even more money than Robert Maxwell did - by playing the interest futures market ineffectively (used to be illegal, insider trading, etc), buying bonds on margin (casino banking) - and then being forced under the short Kwasi Kazi chancellory to sell those bonds at the bottom of the bond market dip that then ensued…

Last year my estimated pension (paid up) was £294 a week… This week - it has dropped to £187.

That’s a third of mine, and a lot of other people’s pensions destroyed. Cheers a bunch, criminal establishment!!! :imp: :imp: :imp: :angry:

This country doesn’t need a Labour government promising “more of the same”. It needs a 1605 event - and I’m not talking about five past four in the afternoon here!

This has nothing to do with a strike but is a heartwarming tale of the Royal Mail. A couple of days before Christmas I recieved a card from a friend in England but as I looked at the address it didn’t have America or USA written on it. The last line was ‘NH 03254’ so I’m assuming someone at the Royal Mail knew NH meant New Hampshire in the USA and put it in the mail bag coming here. :sunglasses: :smiley:

I don’t think our US Mail is as smart as that as I’ve heard of expats putting UK on letters to England and some have been shipped off to the Ukraine. :confused: