Peter Smythe:
btw this course should be the most interactive course on the cpc planet. Had to have face to face meetings with JAUPT to get the principle approved because it was so different. Took 8 months to get it past them so determined to make it brilliant. Want to get rid of the current driver cpc mindset which is soul destroying for all concerned and often a total waste of time.
As far as I can see my own DCPC courses are, and always have been, interactive and I have had no issue with JAUPT at course approval or during audits.
Initially I had problems with timings because an interactive course will not generally run to a strict timetable - audience participation cannot be controlled to the minute, but the end result will be achieved (someone hopefully learns something or confirms their existing knowledge) - so I had them moaning about minutes here and minutes but they seem to have relaxed on this now.
Good news you are turning to the dark side and trying to make DCPC interesting - and worthwhile. No matter what you do, you aren’t gonna change some people perception
Good news you are turning to the dark side and trying to make DCPC interesting - and worthwhile. No matter what you do, you aren’t gonna change some people perception
Like you, I’ve always tried but felt like arms are tied behind my back. But this gives a lot more flexibility, interaction and consequently, should be more interesting and enjoyable. My aim is to have folks wanting to come back rather than having to come back. But I totally agree, some folks just aint up for change!
Here is one which could be put up on a screen or handed out which encompasses many of the rules -
Discussion points are max driving hours, daily rest rules, WTD rules
SCENARIO
Driver usually has a 4 on 4 off shift pattern but has been asked to do some holiday cover for another driver
Driver finishes 4 days off on a wed so starts a 6 shift week on thu at 6am
SHIFT 1 = Thu 6am to 8pm - 10 hours driving + 2 hours other work + 2 hours break = 12 hours WTD
SHIFT 2 = Fri 6am to 8pm - 10 hours driving + 2 hours other work + 2 hours break = 12 hours WTD
SHIFT 3 = Sat 7am to 8pm - 9 hours driving + 3 hours other work + 1 hour break = 12 hours WTD
SHIFT 4 = Sun 6am to 7pm - 9 hours driving + 3 hours other work + 1 hour break = 12 hours WTD
SHIFT 5 = Mon 6am to 7pm - 10 hours driving + 1 hour other work + 2 hours break = 11 hours WTD
SHIFT 6 = Tue 6am to 8pm - 10 hours driving + 2 hours other work + 2 hours break = 12 hours WTD
Wed off
SHIFT 7 = Thu 6am to 8pm - 9 hours driving + 3 hours other work + 1 hour break = 12 hours WTD
SHIFT 8 = Fri 6am to 8pm - 9 hours driving + 3 hours other work + 1 hour break = 12 hours WTD
SHIFT 9 = Sat 7am to 8pm - 9 hours driving + 3 hours other work + 1 hour break = 12 hours WTD
SHIFT 10 = Sun 6am to 8pm -10 hours driving + 2 hours other work + 2 hours break = 12 hours WTD
4 days off
On what SHIFTS have reduced daily rests been taken
Does that number exceed the maximum allowed
Has the max weekly driving time been exceeded if yes then on what SHIFT did that occur
Has the max number of weekly 10 hour drives been exceeded if yes then on what SHIFT(S)
Has the max weekly WTD limit been exceeded - if yes then by how much and on which SHIFT(S)
start 6am
work 15 mins
drive 15 mins
break 15 mins
work 30 mins
drive 3 hours
work 30 mins
drive 1 hour
break 30 mins
drive 1 hour
work 1 hour
drive 1 hour
work 30 mins
drive 1 hour
work 1 hour
drive 1 hour
work 45 mins
finish 7pm
start 6am
work 15 mins
drive 15 mins
break 30 mins
work 30 mins
drive 3 hours
work 30 mins
drive 1 hour
break 15 mins
drive 1 hour
work 1 hour
drive 1 hour
work 30 mins
drive 1 hour
work 1 hour
drive 1 hour
work 45 mins
finish 7pm
Peter Smythe:
I’m in the process of writing a new driver cpc course. I need provocative, interesting questions on the following subjects:
Drivers’ Hours/Tachos
Customer Service/Company Image
Health & Safety
Driver Well-being
I fully expect a few sarcastic replies, but would welcome some good input.
I want material to generate good debate in the classroom. Although I’m quite capable of doing this myself, I’d like to get fresh ideas as well. Thanks, for the good answers, in advance.
Pete
Hi Pete, ill certainly give it a go, gimme a little time though being very green obviously, but …
I do think that some kind of practical content would be good, think someone has suggested this but to get out of the classroom for a little bit and give everyone a go with everyday scenario’s can only be a positive thing for me,
A happy student will take in much more especially when interacted with, not just sat being talked to etc.
Is there a CPC module on standing your ground? Lol
Far too many drivers starting out get bullied into taking out unsafe loads or being asked to bend the rules, most times without realising it. I realise in Mod 4 you are shown how to use load restraints but would it not be better to be shown with a physical load as opposed to just using a ratchet etc
NickW88:
Is there a CPC module on standing your ground? Lol
Far too many drivers starting out get bullied into taking out unsafe loads or being asked to bend the rules, most times without realising it. I realise in Mod 4 you are shown how to use load restraints but would it not be better to be shown with a physical load as opposed to just using a ratchet etc
Mate if you get bullied into taking out a load that is actually unsafe, you are a mug. Plain and simple…
True I suppose, I refused to take an unsafe load and vehicle out the other week. I’m now unemployed as a result but my license is intact and to me that’s what matters, I won’t be bullied by anyone.
There are far weaker individuals out there though who would be taken advantage of and won’t even understand how you properly secure a load and will take anyone’s word for it.
NickW88:
I realise in Mod 4 you are shown how to use load restraints but would it not be better to be shown with a physical load as opposed to just using a ratchet etc
You are spot on that Training using an actual load would be more beneficial but …
From a trainers point of view - how do you do that? You might be employed to carry metal, wood, sand, pallets, animals, cars, balloons, paper, oils, fuel, bricks, motorbikes etc in curtains, on flats, in boxes, containers, tanks and on and on and on.
The industry is so diverse I couldn’t run a course to suit 15 people. It would be relevant to some but not to others.
Unfortunately this kind of specialist training can realistically only be organised by the employer and that’s where it falls down - employers just go for the easiest cheapest option.
You are spot on that Training using an actual load would be more beneficial but …
From a trainers point of view - how do you do that? You might be employed to carry metal, wood, sand, pallets, animals, cars, balloons, paper, oils, fuel, bricks, motorbikes etc in curtains, on flats, in boxes, containers, tanks and on and on and on.
The industry is so diverse I couldn’t run a course to suit 15 people. It would be relevant to some but not to others.
Unfortunately this kind of specialist training can realistically only be organised by the employer and that’s where it falls down - employers just go for the easiest cheapest option.
Not often I totally agree with someone but this is an exception! 100% accurate.
What about some questions regarding mental health etc, putting you in situations etc,
Q) What would you do if you saw a driver doing xyz, something against the law, dangerous etc, im sure there would be lots of scenarios you could cover pete, sure would provoke interesting discussion and answers.
As someone who has access to a few trucks why not make yourself a little video. Show a driver, entering/exiting a unit, coupling up, strapping up etc, with some deliberate mistakes on the H&S, ask the room to critique the video and ask how they could do it better.
why not make yourself a little video. Show a driver, entering/exiting a unit, coupling up, strapping up etc, with some deliberate mistakes on the H&S, ask the room to critique the video and ask how they could do it better.