Looks awful doesn’t it?
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Good to know how much better we are, here in Blighty.
Our next PM is about to be elected by a small group of paid-up members of the, (currently) ruling party.
He will be elected from a short list of two, whittled down by an even smaller group of party members…
(What would you say if it was Russian or Chinese party members, rather than good old Tory party apparatchiks I wonder?)
The leading candidate has a history that puts others into the shade.
He seems to have a much more…colourful… history than the German lady. She really doesn’t even approach his standard for mendacity, and duplicity does she?
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These Euros aren’t producing villains as well as we are. Poor effort Fritz!
Franglais:
Looks awful doesn’t it?
.
Good to know how much better we are, here in Blighty.
Our next PM is about to be elected by a small group of paid-up members of the, (currently) ruling party.
He will be elected from a short list of two, whittled down by an even smaller group of party members…
(What would you say if it was Russian or Chinese party members, rather than good old Tory party apparatchiks I wonder?)
The leading candidate has a history that puts others into the shade.
He seems to have a much more…colourful… history than the German lady. She really doesn’t even approach his standard for mendacity, and duplicity does she?
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These Euros aren’t producing villains as well as we are. Poor effort Fritz!
So, is this the stinking 4th Reich making an appearance at last? I think we should be told.
Actually, I suspect someone on here will tell us pretty soon.
Franglais:
Looks awful doesn’t it?
.
Good to know how much better we are, here in Blighty.
Our next PM is about to be elected by a small group of paid-up members of the, (currently) ruling party.
He will be elected from a short list of two, whittled down by an even smaller group of party members…
(What would you say if it was Russian or Chinese party members, rather than good old Tory party apparatchiks I wonder?)
The leading candidate has a history that puts others into the shade.
He seems to have a much more…colourful… history than the German lady. She really doesn’t even approach his standard for mendacity, and duplicity does she?
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These Euros aren’t producing villains as well as we are. Poor effort Fritz!
So, is this the stinking 4th Reich making an appearance at last? I think we should be told.
Actually, I suspect someone on here will tell us pretty soon.
You could well be correct. Ze Germans are the architects of the EU: By cleverly pretending to lose WW2 they put themselves in place to rule us now. Their master plan was always to unite Europe in this way. That Hitler bloke was just a stooge set up by the monied elite.
All part of the Kalihari Plan. That of course, is linked to the desertification of the world by climate change. We all know that oil is found under desert sands so part of this plan is to get more fuel for our Jaguars.
After Brexit we don’t expect those stinking foreign car makers to remain here, do we? So obvously we will all have to drive Jags and RangeRovers.
Yeah, they may seem more expensive than Clios and Fiestas now, but if we stopped buying Euro boxes, the extra new British car sales would increase in volume and so bring prices down. You can’t argue with them economics, mate.
Franglais:
After Brexit we don’t expect those stinking foreign car makers to remain here, do we? So obvously we will all have to drive Jags and RangeRovers.
Yeah, they may seem more expensive than Clios and Fiestas now, but if we stopped buying Euro boxes, the extra new British car sales would increase in volume and so bring prices down. You can’t argue with them economics, mate.
Strange how I don’t seem to remember the domestic car industry being limited to producing just Jags and Range Rovers before we joined the EU.Remind us what were the sales figures for the Cortina in that regard and where it and the majority,if not all,of its components were made.It’s so much better for our balance of payments to hand all that industry over to the French and Germans.
While most 17 year olds these days are more likely to be riding a bicycle than driving a 1600 E.Because their minimum wage zero hours job in the resulting Brit industrial wasteland won’t pay them enough to buy and run a car,or they believe all the EU eco indoctrination.
As for the rest of your vindictive bs,regarding obviously putting us under a trade embargo,for the crime of secession from your stinking 4th Reich,good luck with that.
Apparently Johnson has raised over £700,000 in aid of his leadership bid.
It has been reported that some of his business supporters are keen for Brexit at any price.
I’m sure some others are also keen for Brexit at any price. But do we know that any future PM will have the best interests of the whole country at the forefront? Or will they be influenced by wealthy backers?
Good to know we don’t live in a banana republic ain’t it?
Franglais:
Looks awful doesn’t it?
.
Good to know how much better we are, here in Blighty.
Our next PM is about to be elected by a small group of paid-up members of the, (currently) ruling party.
He will be elected from a short list of two, whittled down by an even smaller group of party members…
(What would you say if it was Russian or Chinese party members, rather than good old Tory party apparatchiks I wonder?)
The leading candidate has a history that puts others into the shade.
He seems to have a much more…colourful… history than the German lady. She really doesn’t even approach his standard for mendacity, and duplicity does she?
.
These Euros aren’t producing villains as well as we are. Poor effort Fritz!
So who would you suggest gets a vote on who becomes the next leader of the Torys ■■? Labour , Libs Green Party FFS ,… interesting comments on the racist Trump on todays news.Apparently the poor lady he told to go home is anti Jew pro Al Khaida . No racism there then but of course it is only a one way street
Franglais:
Looks awful doesn’t it?
.
Good to know how much better we are, here in Blighty.
Our next PM is about to be elected by a small group of paid-up members of the, (currently) ruling party.
He will be elected from a short list of two, whittled down by an even smaller group of party members…
(What would you say if it was Russian or Chinese party members, rather than good old Tory party apparatchiks I wonder?)
The leading candidate has a history that puts others into the shade.
He seems to have a much more…colourful… history than the German lady. She really doesn’t even approach his standard for mendacity, and duplicity does she?
.
These Euros aren’t producing villains as well as we are. Poor effort Fritz!
So who would you suggest gets a vote on who becomes the next leader of the Torys ■■? Labour , Libs Green Party FFS ,… interesting comments on the racist Trump on todays news.Apparently the poor lady he told to go home is anti Jew pro Al Khaida . No racism there then but of course it is only a one way street
Maybe our parliamentary system needs a tweak?
Voting for a Cameron PM and getting a May Gov; voting for Blair and getting Brown ain’t perfect.
Once upon a time PMs had less personal power, and it seemed to be Parliament that rules. Maybe I’m wrong, but the person at the top seems to hold more away nowadays?
Let the Torys choose who they want as leader , but shouldn’t the electorate of the whole country have a say in who becomes PM?
Daresay some citizens who would vote for a Blair led Labour party wouldn’t vote for a Corbin led one. Same here, some who voted Tory with May as boss won’t be happy seeing Johnson there.
Franglais:
Looks awful doesn’t it?
.
Good to know how much better we are, here in Blighty.
Our next PM is about to be elected by a small group of paid-up members of the, (currently) ruling party.
He will be elected from a short list of two, whittled down by an even smaller group of party members…
(What would you say if it was Russian or Chinese party members, rather than good old Tory party apparatchiks I wonder?)
The leading candidate has a history that puts others into the shade.
He seems to have a much more…colourful… history than the German lady. She really doesn’t even approach his standard for mendacity, and duplicity does she?
.
These Euros aren’t producing villains as well as we are. Poor effort Fritz!
So who would you suggest gets a vote on who becomes the next leader of the Torys ■■? Labour , Libs Green Party FFS ,… interesting comments on the racist Trump on todays news.Apparently the poor lady he told to go home is anti Jew pro Al Khaida . No racism there then but of course it is only a one way street
Maybe our parliamentary system needs a tweak?
Voting for a Cameron PM and getting a May Gov; voting for Blair and getting Brown ain’t perfect.
Once upon a time PMs had less personal power, and it seemed to be Parliament that rules. Maybe I’m wrong, but the person at the top seems to hold more away nowadays?
Let the Torys choose who they want as leader , but shouldn’t the electorate of the whole country have a say in who becomes PM?
Daresay some citizens who would vote for a Blair led Labour party wouldn’t vote for a Corbin led one. Same here, some who voted Tory with May as boss won’t be happy seeing Johnson there.
What point would there be if you think about it letting the country decide who our PM should be, remember we are not democratic any more as the country had a vote on Brexit and that is yet to be carried through. There is always someone who wants to derail a democratic vote and the people of the UK just want it done and dusted now, Buzzer.
Am I missing something here? Less than a year ago Boris Johnson was regarded as a bumbling good for nothing but a laugh, clown - now he looks like the “best candidate” to lead the country! OH! and if you want an honest opinion as to how Jeremy is at running an organisation, just ask any nurse. Let’s get real - we are watching a bunch of self serving gits get their own way whatever the majority (ie the common man or woman) want. Jim.
Franglais:
Looks awful doesn’t it?
.
Good to know how much better we are, here in Blighty.
Our next PM is about to be elected by a small group of paid-up members of the, (currently) ruling party.
He will be elected from a short list of two, whittled down by an even smaller group of party members…
(What would you say if it was Russian or Chinese party members, rather than good old Tory party apparatchiks I wonder?)
The leading candidate has a history that puts others into the shade.
He seems to have a much more…colourful… history than the German lady. She really doesn’t even approach his standard for mendacity, and duplicity does she?
.
These Euros aren’t producing villains as well as we are. Poor effort Fritz!
So who would you suggest gets a vote on who becomes the next leader of the Torys ■■? Labour , Libs Green Party FFS ,… interesting comments on the racist Trump on todays news.Apparently the poor lady he told to go home is anti Jew pro Al Khaida . No racism there then but of course it is only a one way street
Maybe our parliamentary system needs a tweak?
Voting for a Cameron PM and getting a May Gov; voting for Blair and getting Brown ain’t perfect.
Once upon a time PMs had less personal power, and it seemed to be Parliament that rules. Maybe I’m wrong, but the person at the top seems to hold more away nowadays?
Let the Torys choose who they want as leader , but shouldn’t the electorate of the whole country have a say in who becomes PM?
Daresay some citizens who would vote for a Blair led Labour party wouldn’t vote for a Corbin led one. Same here, some who voted Tory with May as boss won’t be happy seeing Johnson there.
What point would there be if you think about it letting the country decide who our PM should be, remember we are not democratic any more as the country had a vote on Brexit and that is yet to be carried through. There is always someone who wants to derail a democratic vote and the people of the UK just want it done and dusted now, Buzzer.
But “the people of the UK” aren’t getting a say here, are they?.
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Maybe you are happy to see a “no deal” Brexit. Not everyone who voted out would be. Many will have been expecting the “easiest trade negotiations in history” and they haven’t come. The Brexit promises including rhe £350m are shown for the dreams they were.
Hardly democratic to force an extreme form of Brexitt upon those who believed the optimistic dreams and downright lies of the Leave Campaign.
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Franglais as always in discussion there needs to be give and take from both sides and the EU were not very forthcoming when Brexit rose its head, perhaps if they had a bit more give a deal under TM would have succeeded but that did not happen. When you look at it there were three main players in the EU that’s the UK, France & Germany the others are less significant and quite a few of them are bankrupt and are just hanging onto the shirt tails of the powerful economies of the main three, some of the rest are like a dead weight so will only make the rest sink especially if the UK being one of the main three do eventually leave.
The EU is not a country in its own right it is what it is and that is just a conglomeration of countries so getting agreement between all is not easy, lots of the lesser countries have had major beneficial financial gains by being members with the EU trying to drag them into modern day structures but this is not cheap to do. Losing just one major contributor to the EU as ourselves will surely have an effect on the remaining group, just want it sorted now its been far to drawn out and that in itself breeds discontentment, Buzzer.
Buzzer:
Franglais as always in discussion there needs to be give and take from both sides and the EU were not very forthcoming when Brexit rose its head, perhaps if they had a bit more give a deal under TM would have succeeded but that did not happen. When you look at it there were three main players in the EU that’s the UK, France & Germany the others are less significant and quite a few of them are bankrupt and are just hanging onto the shirt tails of the powerful economies of the main three, some of the rest are like a dead weight so will only make the rest sink especially if the UK being one of the main three do eventually leave.
The EU is not a country in its own right it is what it is and that is just a conglomeration of countries so getting agreement between all is not easy, lots of the lesser countries have had major beneficial financial gains by being members with the EU trying to drag them into modern day structures but this is not cheap to do. Losing just one major contributor to the EU as ourselves will surely have an effect on the remaining group, just want it sorted now its been far to drawn out and that in itself breeds discontentment, Buzzer.
Cant disagree with that Buzzer but im sure some will
Buzzer:
Franglais as always in discussion there needs to be give and take from both sides
Cant disagree with that Buzzer but im sure some will
How can there possibly be any compromise between the two simple options of remain under EU rule v the return of/to National Sovereignty.Under that idea it’s obvious that Remainers view take as BRINO.With the end game of cancelling Brexit in the longer term.
Maybe you are happy to see a “no deal” Brexit. Not everyone who voted out would be. Many will have been expecting the “easiest trade negotiations in history” and they haven’t come. The Brexit promises including rhe £350m are shown for the dreams they were.
Hardly democratic to force an extreme form of Brexitt upon those who believed the optimistic dreams and downright lies of the Leave Campaign.
I dont remember LEAVE WITH A DEAL or REMAIN WITH A DEAL on the ballot paper, all this deal nonsence is something cooked up by remainers, if you tell yourself a lie for long enough you will begin to believe it.
Just walk away having left them OUR deal if they want us back, it is that simple, have faith in our great country. Harvey
HRS:
I dont remember LEAVE WITH A DEAL or REMAIN WITH A DEAL on the ballot paper, all this deal nonsence is something cooked up by remainers, if you tell yourself a lie for long enough you will begin to believe it.
Similarly, when we vote for a Party in a General Election we only get to put a cross in a box.
We decide where to put that cross based on the promises made by the Parties in their manifestos. Going against manifesto promises is a “no, no”.
If a Party wins our vote by promising tax cuts and delivers tax rises they could be given a vote of no confidence.
Here we have the Leave campaigns promising good, easy, deals before the referendum to win votes. Weve had none of that. They are now pushing for a No-Deal Brexit which wasnt on anyone`s radar 3 years ago.
What was promised and voted on then, is NOT what is on offer now.
Buzzer:
Franglais as always in discussion there needs to be give and take from both sides and the EU were not very forthcoming when Brexit rose its head, perhaps if they had a bit more give a deal under TM would have succeeded but that did not happen
True enough.
If Mrs May had something in her handbag apart from red paint to make lines she could have done better. If she wasnt hamstrung by her own partys back bencher rabble, maybe she could have given a little away to gain more.
Buzzer:
When you look at it there were three main players in the EU that’s the UK, France & Germany the others are less significant and quite a few of them are bankrupt and are just hanging onto the shirt tails of the powerful economies of the main three, some of the rest are like a dead weight so will only make the rest sink especially if the UK being one of the main three do eventually leave.
Powerful economies? Measured how? If you look at GDP per capita for instance, the UK is behind 10 other EU countries!
And exactly which “few countries” are bankrupt or nearly so?
Greece has been in trouble, but its national debt has been decreasing over the past 3 years. It has been hard on the population, but the country isnt about to pull down the shutters.
Buzzer:
The EU is not a country in its own right it is what it is and that is just a conglomeration of countries so getting agreement between all is not easy, lots of the lesser countries have had major beneficial financial gains by being members with the EU trying to drag them into modern day structures but this is not cheap to do.
So, in order to gain in the long term as a big trading structure the EU needs some short term pain?
Sound familiar? Isn`t that what some Brexiteers say? A sort term pain for a longer term gain?
Why accept that for a Brexit “two birds in the bush”, but reject the same thing for the EU “bird in the hand”?
HRS:
I dont remember LEAVE WITH A DEAL or REMAIN WITH A DEAL on the ballot paper, all this deal nonsence is something cooked up by remainers, if you tell yourself a lie for long enough you will begin to believe it.
Similarly, when we vote for a Party in a General Election we only get to put a cross in a box.
We decide where to put that cross based on the promises made by the Parties in their manifestos. Going against manifesto promises is a “no, no”.
If a Party wins our vote by promising tax cuts and delivers tax rises they could be given a vote of no confidence.
Here we have the Leave campaigns promising good, easy, deals before the referendum to win votes. Weve had none of that. They are now pushing for a No-Deal Brexit which wasnt on anyone`s radar 3 years ago.
What was promised and voted on then, is NOT what is on offer now.
The Leave side obviously promised to Leave the EU.The fact that the EU would then throw its toys out of the pram,because Federalists don’t do secession,was always a given.To which the answer was always a no deal probably followed by a trade war which we can only win.On that note what we actually had was Remainers,in the form of May and Hammond and predictably the Conservative Federalist Party as a whole,hijacking the process and then deliberately sabotaging it to date.Who would have thought it.
While as we know the Remainers idea of a ‘deal’ is just more of the same submission to the blackmail of sovereignty for trade and even that all being in the EU’s favour not ours.While there’s no way that the EU can back down on that or compromise because then the whole rotten scam would collapse.So by definition Leave always meant ‘no deal’ because EU rules won’t allow otherwise and the electorate knew it.
Buzzer:
What do we know about this man, quite an orchestrator in Brussel’s apparently reckoned to be a very powerful influence, Buzzer.
Law degree and PhD. Worked for the Central European Bank. Probably actually knows what he is talking about.
Married, but only the once. Not recorded as being sacked by anyone or being proved a liar. No photos of him down the pub. Not been accused of misuse of monies.
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He wouldn`t get far in UK politics with such a boring image, would he?
Buzzer:
What do we know about this man, quite an orchestrator in Brussel’s apparently reckoned to be a very powerful influence, Buzzer.
Law degree and PhD. Worked for the Central European Bank. Probably actually knows what he is talking about.
Married, but only the once. Not recorded as being sacked by anyone or being proved a liar. No photos of him down the pub. Not been accused of misuse of monies.
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He wouldn`t get far in UK politics with such a boring image, would he?
A banker and obviously shares common ground with Blair.What’s not to like.
