The op should have kept it all between him and the tm. Jacked the agency, had the 2 weeks off then gone back full time. Let the company use a different driver for the fortnight, then tell the agency they no longer need staff
You PAYE so entitled to holidays and holiday pay when are they paying that
As others have intimated, it’s the contract between the agency and the company that you’re stuck in between. They, the agency, will have a clause in their contract as they’ve found the client a candidate for free, and lost the revenue from farming you out to them. Pretty standard stuff I’m afraid and something which I expect the company doesn’t want to challenge and potentially damage a business relationship.
Also, I expect it’s pretty well tied-up legally.
If you they, the company, wanted you to join as an FD or sales director they would probably challenge or at least negotiate, but for a driver …
Why would you even tell the agency that you took a full time job with that company? just tell them you found a full time job and your leaving, it has nothing to do with the agency who the company is, which is what i did at the begining of this year, after 3 months at one firm who kept asking for me to work for them direct after only being there 2 days, and no one got overly excited about me doing it.
weeto:
Why would you even tell the agency that you took a full time job with that company?
I didn’t, the TM did.
Plambert:
As others have intimated, it’s the contract between the agency and the company that you’re stuck in between. They, the agency, will have a clause in their contract as they’ve found the client a candidate for free, and lost the revenue from farming you out to them. Pretty standard stuff I’m afraid and something which I expect the company doesn’t want to challenge and potentially damage a business relationship.Also, I expect it’s pretty well tied-up legally.
If you they, the company, wanted you to join as an FD or sales director they would probably challenge or at least negotiate, but for a driver …
Yeah, quite correct, I’m useful but not THAT useful 
Little choice for the time being other than have a minor grumble now and continue as I am until after the holiday at least. It’s my preferred place to work and my agency has the first call to fill whatever places they have available, so moving agency only hurts me. But of course staying with the agency clearly returns me to the same trap if/when they look to recruit again next year.
Just don’t know what to do for the best going forward.
Vid:
A change in life circumstances forced me to chuck my job in at the end of last summer, have been on agency since, bar one week 5/6 months ago and the odd couple of days at around the same time I’ve effectively been full time with one client doing 5 days on 2 off.A mix of class 1 and class 2 depending on what they wanted me to do on any given day, 7am to somewhere between 4 and 6pm, the job suits me, the hours suit me the only issue earlier in the year when full time positions were available were the off days on offer didn’t suit. This changed a few weeks ago and I was offered the days on/off that I’d been doing for the past few months, so ideal, agreement reached with the TM for him to go through the agency and temp to perm. The agency wants 3 months temp to perm and weren’t willing to budge, client not happy but still going ahead, I reminded the agency a couple of days ago that I’ve a 2 week holiday coming up (the missus 50th) to which the reply was that the temp to perm period would have to be extended by 2 weeks.
Thought nothing of it until a couple of hours ago when the TM rang and said that his HR department wouldn’t sanction a later start date (it was already beyond what they were happy with) and had to withdraw the offer. Now trying to work through in my head what I should do from here.
Yes, plenty of jobs out there but how easy will it be to find one that fits my needs as well as this one?
I could get irate with the agency, stick up 2 fingers to them and go elsewhere, back to 1) and they’ll simply send someone else in to do the work I’ve been doing for the past 10 months or so.
I could have a little grumble, continue with the agency and the placement with the client, actually take home more than being fully employed on 5 days weeks, but run into the possibility of days, or even weeks, with little/ no work from them and be faced with 1) again and potentially being forced to do work/ hours/ days that I really don’t want to do to put food on the table.
Not sure if there is any compromise possibility here as the agency are the ones with control and it will make no difference to them whether its me or someone else that they are placing with the client. The only way they’d be hurt would be if the client were the ones to wave 2 fingers at them and move to a different agency.
Any (helpful) thoughts?
Don’t you think you’re well out of it?
your new, potential employer want’s to deny you your holidays…Not good!
Their moaning about 2 weeks extra money, which they’d probably have to cover with your current agency anyway.
Then, to give you the job, then take it back again…Nah! Move on
in the past I have told various agencies I am no longer available as I am starting full time,they then do the usual and that is enquiring who with,so I don’t want them to know it is with a company on their books my reply is either I am moving elsewhere or I am going self employed with my own van,usually have no problems after that
Agencies are parasites and have ruined the industry for drivers. Working for an agency you will be used as a commodity. No one has your interest at heart, not the agency, not the client and certainly not the full timers working for the client. Everyone sees an Agency driver as a mug. The agency driver may put up with this in exchange for the freedom to pick and choose when and where to work but this is in reality a fallacy as the agency will bully you into doing the hours they want you to work and the client they want to fill with arguments like “Well this is a good job and a lot of drivers want it and I am offering it to you but you must do Mon - Fri”, “Yes I know you said you don’t start before 4am but all I have on my books for after 4 is multidrop class 2 rigid”, “I know you like that job but I can’t keep you on it as they don’t need anyone there now and all I have in your area is Poundworld” and loads of other lies they come out with. Agencies lie.
truckman020:
in the past I have told various agencies I am no longer available as I am starting full time,they then do the usual and that is enquiring who with,so I don’t want them to know it is with a company on their books my reply is either I am moving elsewhere or I am going self employed with my own van,usually have no problems after that
Huh.
Sent Thursday a txt i cant do Friday and Saturday as i have an Assessment for Employment.
Passt Assessment and got Job Offer.
£110.- a Day (Mon-Fri)
£140.- Sat
£160.- Sun.
So they know about it,and i have no secrets to my Employer.
I rather have it to some other.
So,perhaps im getin a Uniform on the 14th and £10000.- less a Year
Conor:
OVLOV JAY:
Is there actually a law that the agency can enforce, or is it all agency bs?Contractual law. It is a term of their contract with the clients. And as to war1974’s suggestion of adding up the days and seeing if it comes to 13 weeks, doesn’t work like that. The temp to perm clause kicks in only when the client notifies the agency and the 13 weeks starts from then.
seeing as I work for an agency and have done for most of the larger ones, most will be reasonable if it means A, keeping the client and B, not losing the driver to a competitor. most will bend on it, and whilst yes the ‘contract’ will state 12/13/15 weeks etc. they have earned their money from you and most will bend rather than risk losing the client.
quote … So,perhaps im getin a Uniform on the 14th and £10000.- less a Year
Can I apply for your old job ?
wait till the 15th