It’s quite simple. Labour made huge gains from the lib dems, so a count of around 30 for ukip could have let the snp in the back door, a complete opposite to cutting them loose. It would’ve been nice to see ukip get around 15, and keep the cons around 320 seats, a hopefully get a con/ukip coalition
Great day for Britain, well done keeping the Conservatives in power.
Nice to see Scotland kick labour out, strong scottish woman vs english posh boy milliband no brainer really.
Cleggy lost it when he never got proportional representation in to replace the first pass the past system but lets face it the average voter would never understand it anyway.
Let’s be honest guys, whoever gets in isn’t going to change your lives. Despite the false face they present, most politicians are in it for the money… 
I live in a country village in a strong conservative stronghold. I voted for all three conservative candidates for the local councils, but voted for UKIP for national government. That was just me, a lone voice saying I am fed up of immigration, but realizing the floodgates will stay open.
Winseer:
For the last five years - we were asked to bring our own vaseline.For the next five years, the nobbly stick being used upon the one-working family is studded with rusty nails, broken glass, and dolloped with sewage.
The prospect of Cameron being back in Number 10 without any constraints this time - fills me with dread.
Price change implications @ 0106am…
The Tories are now expected to cut loose Cleggy, even though they are likely to fall just short at 318 seats. UKIP won’t be entertained in coalition, as Farage is now 200 votes behind with less than 1000 left to count in South Thanet. Cleggy is 30/100 on to keep his seat, but not being in Coalition will probably see him booted by his own party in the next few weeks.
UKIP have closed the gap, raised their voting percentages - but in the first past the post system - “coming a close second” is as bad as “falling at the first fence” or “coming last”.
Even Boris is gutted - The Conservatives gaining seats under Cameron kicks any hopes and dreams of himself being leader well into touch. A similar thing happened when Heath unexpectedly led the Conservatives to victory in 1970… Enoch Powell was consigned to the back bench oblivion, and the rest of the country has been suffering for it ever since.
Update: 06:15am Cameron to get an overall majority - odds on 4/7
“Right. That’s UKIP destoyed. There’s no need for an EU Referendum now. That was merely a postulated bargaining chip for any coalition deal, which I now no longer require. The 2017 referendum is hereby cancelled. The EU will be declaring it illegal anyway. It took the electorate 5 years to boot Cleggy for breaking his promise. I’ll be gone in 2020 so the electorate won’t get chance to punish me over me breaking mine! - Now for Government… Very punishing Government for the north and the cities it’ll be too!”
^ This.
Although don’t forget that the South East has as much to lose in terms of what remains of London’s surrounding counties being bulldozed for Boris’ and Cameron’s plans to expand London’s urban sprawl.While he can just call on Labour support for that and in regard to any Conservative backbench rebellion regarding going back on the EU referendum ‘promise’.
OVLOV JAY:
It’s quite simple. Labour made huge gains from the lib dems, so a count of around 30 for ukip could have let the snp in the back door, a complete opposite to cutting them loose. It would’ve been nice to see ukip get around 15, and keep the cons around 320 seats, a hopefully get a con/ukip coalition
Why would any UKIP voter switch to Con instead of staying with UKIP and cutting the Scottish loose by giving the SNP its independence.In which case there never was a threat from the SNP from the point of view of the English UKIP or Con vote.In which case something stinks about this result assuming any of the Con’s unexpected gains are supposedly being put down to a UKIP to Con swing through supposed fear of the SNP.
In 2010 - I wonder how many people switched to voting Tory - that really thought they’d hike interest rates, start up some crushing austerity (eg cut benefits to the bone) and cancel entire concepts such as the minimum wage and tax credits?
They didn’t - perhaps thanks to being in Coalition rather than ruling as a majority.
Because they never promised these things though - no one thought anything of it.
Who’s to say therefore, that right now - this “11th hour swing to Tory” is about similar desires in the electorate? - It’s clear that there is a strong desire to somehow “bring Scotland to Heel” as if listening to what is now practically the entire nation - sticks in the England craw enough that they’d deny democracy to try make it “all go away”?
I think it’s fair to say that those who’ve swung behind the Tories, and returned “the lesser of morons” back to number 10 - are expecting some good old traditional “nastiness” from what was once known as the “Nasty Party”.
The danger though - is that there might have been more desire to be “helped” rather than “continually shafted” south of the border as well as north of it.
Weeks after the Tory’s unexpected 1992 win - they blew more money than Gordon Brown did on selling gold at the bottom of the market - and 1997 punished them for that.
2015 has shown that you don’t get in bed with the enemy and break all your promises - without the public turning on you because they can. It’s a shame the public couldn’t turn on all three parties and give us a showing for UKIP to balance out the SNP surge in Scotland.
That’s politics. One adult gets one vote.
The supreme irony is that I would now expect the SNP to pipe up and make trouble at Westminster every chance they get. THIS was what Tory voters thought they’d be kicking into touch - but alas - now weak government really begins. Scotland will have to be constantly bribed and treated just to shut them up. The tail will try damned hard to wag the dog - majority or no majority in the commons. We can expect for starters - any pro-sassenach SNP moves to be promptly put into the dustbin. Will Cameron pass on the austerity from south of the border? - I voted believing that “No, he won’t”.
Sharing our austerity plan with Scotland might shorten it for all of us - but it’s going to be a long hard road with little or no reward at the end of it.
Cameron has his work cut out. I hope he’s as upto it as enough people in this country have seen fit to declare him to be in their ballots.
Because as I posted earlier, a lot of ukip voters, just like the party itself, are disillusioned tories. Ukip were never going to be in a position to form a government. But too many seats would have put labour close to the tories. And how do you see the snp in coalition as giving them independence?
To be fair there are probably plenty of naive later generation voters who’ve never lived under a real Con administration.Unfortunately ironically in this case,from the point of view of the working class,it was a case of vote Miliband get Cameron.The biggest winners as usual being ze Germans and their bankers and probably the Scottish in the win win situation of them calling for as much as they want to keep them happy. 
OVLOV JAY:
Because as I posted earlier, a lot of ukip voters, just like the party itself, are disillusioned tories. Ukip were never going to be in a position to form a government. But too many seats would have put labour close to the tories. And how do you see the snp in coalition as giving them independence?
UKIP was never going to be in the position of a large majority but the idea would have been to at least keep the Cons in a decent minority and form a similar type of co alition as that as previously held by the LibDems.Assuming that coalition then cut the Scottish loose by dissolving the Union where was the SNP threat in any of that.The fact is we’ve handed the country over to a bunch of raving federalists who’ll act as federalists always do.In this case that translates as trying to hold together the Union by throwing as much money at Scotland as it wants and the same in the case of the EU.
The thing is, is there a real conservative party, or a new labour etc. They’re the same as years gone by, but they’ve evolved. It’s like football, the current man utd team has nothing to do with the Busby babes, but it’s still the same club. This is the reason I don’t align myself to a particular party. I work on a politics for me principle. Too many voters base their votes on things that happened when the current leaders were at school
The con/ukip coalition was my whole point. A reduced conservative vote ran the risk of labour pipping the cons, and labour forming a coalition with the snp. It’s not rocket science
OVLOV JAY:
The thing is, is there a real conservative party, or a new labour etc. They’re the same as years gone by, but they’ve evolved. It’s like football, the current man utd team has nothing to do with the Busby babes, but it’s still the same club. This is the reason I don’t align myself to a particular party. I work on a politics for me principle. Too many voters base their votes on things that happened when the current leaders were at school
Trust me it is exactly the same federalist/unionist CBI driven agenda as that of Heath and all the rest.As will become clear in near future.Possibly,like Thatcher,bought with the bribe of a cut price state funded house for many of their mug voters.
Where is desypete and his predictions of UKIP doing some serious damage now, then?
I am no Tory voter but if this result keeps the SNP and their cringe worthy brand of Little Scotland politics well away from having any say whatsoever on how the UK is run then so much the better.
OVLOV JAY:
The con/ukip coalition was my whole point. A reduced conservative vote ran the risk of labour pipping the cons, and labour forming a coalition with the snp. It’s not rocket science
How does the ‘same’ but ‘combined’ majority vote,split between UKIP and the Cons,just like the previous ConLibdem co alition, supposedly translate as a Lab/SNP majority.In which case why would the SNP then want to stay around assuming that combined UKIP/Con administration offered them independence.
At best Cameron has used a false non existent SNP threat that never was to scare people into voting for him.The result being that the SNP really are a force now as a hostile group who don’t really want to be here.Whereas they wouldn’t have been and we now wouldn’t have Cameron selling out the country to the SNP and the EU.Make no mistake we’re now heading for both an even worse form of UK in which we’re held to ransom by Scotland and same regards the EU.
Olog Hai:
Where is desypete and his predictions of UKIP doing some serious damage now, then?
I am no Tory voter but if this result keeps the SNP and their cringe worthy brand of Little Scotland politics well away from having any say whatsoever on how the UK is run then so much the better.
That’s what Tito and Lincoln thought. 
Like others you really haven’t thought this through if you think that the SNP will just roll over and say fine we accept UK rule.At least unless they get a good pay off and effectively independence at least regards setting how much we have to pay them for their co operation.
There was not a cat in hells chance of Cameron offering the scots independence, as he has not changed his pro union stance from the referendum
Carryfast:
Olog Hai:
Where is desypete and his predictions of UKIP doing some serious damage now, then?
I am no Tory voter but if this result keeps the SNP and their cringe worthy brand of Little Scotland politics well away from having any say whatsoever on how the UK is run then so much the better.
That’s what Tito and Lincoln thought.
Like others you really haven’t thought this through if you think that the SNP will just roll over and say fine we accept UK rule.At least unless they get a good pay off and effectively independence at least regards setting how much we have to pay them for their co operation.
I’m not concerned what someone who belongs in a padded cell thinks.
OVLOV JAY:
There was not a cat in hells chance of Cameron offering the scots independence, as he has not changed his pro union stance from the referendum
It isn’t about what Cameron and his bunch of federalist supporters think it’s the general population who’ll have to pay for the whole vanity project wether they support it or not.While I’m guessing that if it was the difference between a Lab/SNP majority v a UKIP/Con one the choice would be a no brainer.Bearing in mind that it will inevitably have to reach the point where the Scottish have to be cut loose sooner or later because we won’t be able to afford the cost of keeping them onside without taking on loads more debt and spending cuts,just like our EU membership.
Olog Hai:
Carryfast:
Olog Hai:
Where is desypete and his predictions of UKIP doing some serious damage now, then?
I am no Tory voter but if this result keeps the SNP and their cringe worthy brand of Little Scotland politics well away from having any say whatsoever on how the UK is run then so much the better.
That’s what Tito and Lincoln thought.
Like others you really haven’t thought this through if you think that the SNP will just roll over and say fine we accept UK rule.At least unless they get a good pay off and effectively independence at least regards setting how much we have to pay them for their co operation.
I’m not concerned what someone who belongs in a padded cell thinks.
Unless Coffeeholic is having a laugh that would also obviously have to apply to him in that case. 
Winseer:
For the last five years - we were asked to bring our own vaseline.For the next five years, the nobbly stick being used upon the one-working family is studded with rusty nails, broken glass, and dolloped with sewage.
The prospect of Cameron being back in Number 10 without any constraints this time - fills me with dread.
Price change implications @ 0106am…
The Tories are now expected to cut loose Cleggy, even though they are likely to fall just short at 318 seats. UKIP won’t be entertained in coalition, as Farage is now 200 votes behind with less than 1000 left to count in South Thanet. Cleggy is 30/100 on to keep his seat, but not being in Coalition will probably see him booted by his own party in the next few weeks.
UKIP have closed the gap, raised their voting percentages - but in the first past the post system - “coming a close second” is as bad as “falling at the first fence” or “coming last”.
Even Boris is gutted - The Conservatives gaining seats under Cameron kicks any hopes and dreams of himself being leader well into touch. A similar thing happened when Heath unexpectedly led the Conservatives to victory in 1970… Enoch Powell was consigned to the back bench oblivion, and the rest of the country has been suffering for it ever since.
Update: 06:15am Cameron to get an overall majority - odds on 4/7
“Right. That’s UKIP destoyed. There’s no need for an EU Referendum now. That was merely a postulated bargaining chip for any coalition deal, which I now no longer require. The 2017 referendum is hereby cancelled. The EU will be declaring it illegal anyway. It took the electorate 5 years to boot Cleggy for breaking his promise. I’ll be gone in 2020 so the electorate won’t get chance to punish me over me breaking mine! - Now for Government… Very punishing Government for the north and the cities it’ll be too!”
Sorry winseer the people have voted and yes they voted for the correct party for this country at this given time, as you appear to be a bitter loser suffering with Labour Blindness then perhaps you should move to one of the eastern block countries where they have lots of driving jobs. And as for that old potato that the people in the North are going to suffer, Please mate get a life the organ grinder gave up that shout many many years ago.