FarnboroughBoy11:
How the [zb] all the rugby fans on here can argue that catching a ball that went wrong In the factory and running with it is more technical than controlling a ball that’s coming to you at 50mph then keeping it under control with your feet whilst running at full pace I don’t know.
Pound for pound profesional (international) rugby players are considerably more fit than their football counterparts, they need much higher muscle mass & are therefor heavier placing a greater emphasis on their endurance, which given the physical nature of the (full contact) sport means that they have to work much harder in training.
Footballers only need to be able to run, (& that’s how their fitness is measured) sure the top few pro’s do have extraordinary skills but rugby players need enormous strength from head to toe and most pro football players would puke & pull out of an average training session from a 1st team session @ a club like Preston Grasshoppers. (where I’m an age group coach with my sons team)
Let me tell you, If my (U13) son rugby tackled most premiership footballers they’d be taken from the pitch on a stretcher & need at least 3 months recouperation, bunch of tarts.
Ross.
Hahahahaha your mate is right, that is funny.
What a load of bollox.
Typical comment from a father standing on the touch line who has blinkers on and really hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about lol!!!
Cardio vascular endurance. Theres not even an argument, footballers are fitter than their rugby equivalents.
Football is played at a much faster pace and rugby stops and starts every 10 seconds, its pathetic.
Why does Rugby last for 80 minutes and football last for 90?
I would smash any pro rugby player now in a bleep test and I drive a lorry all day.
Get real FFS , that’s the sort of comment to be expected from the likes of B+D , forget the forwards , but if you actually believe it’s possible for you to beat any pro girlie back on a beep test you must surely be deluded .Gotta laugh
Their is clearly no comparison to levels of fitness and training required to play professional Rugby, both games are completely different Football is not a contact sport but requires high levels of cardio vascular fitness, to say that Football players are fitter is obviously incorrect.
FarnboroughBoy11:
How the [zb] all the rugby fans on here can argue that catching a ball that went wrong In the factory and running with it is more technical than controlling a ball that’s coming to you at 50mph then keeping it under control with your feet whilst running at full pace I don’t know.
Pound for pound profesional (international) rugby players are considerably more fit than their football counterparts, they need much higher muscle mass & are therefor heavier placing a greater emphasis on their endurance, which given the physical nature of the (full contact) sport means that they have to work much harder in training.
Footballers only need to be able to run, (& that’s how their fitness is measured) sure the top few pro’s do have extraordinary skills but rugby players need enormous strength from head to toe and most pro football players would puke & pull out of an average training session from a 1st team session @ a club like Preston Grasshoppers. (where I’m an age group coach with my sons team)
Let me tell you, If my (U13) son rugby tackled most premiership footballers they’d be taken from the pitch on a stretcher & need at least 3 months recouperation, bunch of tarts.
Ross.
Hahahahaha your mate is right, that is funny.
What a load of bollox.
Typical comment from a father standing on the touch line who has blinkers on and really hasn’t a clue what he’s talking about lol!!!
Cardio vascular endurance. Theres not even an argument, footballers are fitter than their rugby equivalents.
Football is played at a much faster pace and rugby stops and starts every 10 seconds, its pathetic.
Why does Rugby last for 80 minutes and football last for 90?
I would smash any pro rugby player now in a bleep test and I drive a lorry all day.
Get real FFS , that’s the sort of comment to be expected from the likes of B+D , forget the forwards , but if you actually believe it’s possible for you to beat any pro girlie back on a beep test you must surely be deluded .Gotta laugh
Or maybe people are deluded to actually believe it and think I was serious lol?
Their is clearly no comparison to levels of fitness and training required to play professional Rugby, both games are completely different Football is not a contact sport but requires high levels of cardio vascular fitness, to say that Football players are fitter is obviously incorrect.
As a team they are, but like you said (and I said) its a pointless argument about fitness as fitness can be different things, muscle mass, cardio, muscle fibre, just because someone has bigger looking muscles it doesn’t mean they are physically stronger.
I’m saying as a team, footballers are more fitter cardio wise, you get the the big meat heads in rugby and you get the nimble blokes who can run where as in football everyone has to be able to run and keep running, I do watch rugby sometimes and it looks like most of the meat heads are going to keel over after half an hour.
You mention that on a rugby pitch tiger and your signature may well become reality
“Rugby is a game for big buggers. if you’re not a big bugger, you get hurt. I wasn’t a big bugger but i was a fast bugger and therefore I avoided the big buggers.” - Spike Milligan …are you fast Tiger!
FarnboroughBoy11:
So is he a full time pro then? I don’t know I dont really watch rugby, it’s for public school boys and “sportsman” that arnt technically gifted enough to play a proper sport like football.
FarnboroughBoy11:
Me and another player from the football team at school got thrust into the rugby team and was told to play, ■■■■■■ is it? [zb] knows but we would both stay on the wings and the team got instructed to give us the egg, I mean ball whenever possible and just got told to run. Me and my mate must of scored about 15 - 20 try’s each in the 5 or so games we played. I never had a scratch on me. And I certainly wasn’t a rugby player so you don’t have to be technically gifted at all and we managed just fine.
I don’t know how you can arive at anything about skill levels from your school rugby experience, but.
Question, did the other teams “not put a scratch” on you because;
A, rugby requires far less skill than football?
B, in truth you & your mate are simply ridiculously talented rugby players?
C, the oposition defenders where as crap as you & just couldn’t do their job, leaving you to run the tries in unopposed?
(We all know it’s C!!!)
FarnboroughBoy11:
However turn it around and sling two rugby players into a football match and they would go dizzy getting turned inside out every time the ball got near them.
Without doubt, that’s why they’re rugby players not footballers except James Vaughen the ex-Everton player who used to play rugby @ Preston Grasshoppers!! But, how long do you think a Premiership football player would last on a Premiership rugby pitch?
We all know the footballers wouldn’t survive the first tackle!!
FarnboroughBoy11:
Me and another player from the football team at school got thrust into the rugby team and was told to play, ■■■■■■ is it? [zb] knows but we would both stay on the wings and the team got instructed to give us the egg, I mean ball whenever possible and just got told to run. Me and my mate must of scored about 15 - 20 try’s each in the 5 or so games we played. I never had a scratch on me. And I certainly wasn’t a rugby player so you don’t have to be technically gifted at all and we managed just fine.
I don’t know how you can arive at anything about skill levels from your school rugby experience, but.
Question, did the other teams “not put a scratch” on you because;
A, rugby requires far less skill than football?
B, in truth you & your mate are simply ridiculously talented rugby players?
C, the oposition defenders where as crap as you & just couldn’t do their job, leaving you to run the tries in unopposed?
(We all know it’s C!!!)
FarnboroughBoy11:
However turn it around and sling two rugby players into a football match and they would go dizzy getting turned inside out every time the ball got near them.
Without doubt, that’s why they’re rugby players not footballers except James Vaughen the ex-Everton player who used to play rugby @ Preston Grasshoppers!! But, how long do you think a Premiership football player would last on a Premiership rugby pitch?
We all know the footballers wouldn’t survive the first tackle!!
Ross.
I would say without doubt it’s both ‘A’ and ‘B’
“That’s why they’re rugby players and not footballers”
Case closed then.
And yes your probably right, footballers won’t last the first tackle.
And yes your probably right, footballers won’t last the first tackle.
Looks like we’re in totall agreement then?
Ross.
In truth, the only real difference of opinion is on how you’re measuring fitness. I run ‘bleep’ tests 8 or 10 times a year but this isn’t really a good system as body weight is a handicap which can’t be ‘leveled’ across differing body weights, we only use it to measure improvement from before pre-season, during pre-season training, then again at measured intervals during the season. Players are only measured against their own previous performances, not against each other, but naturally individual competitiveness helps squeeze better performances from the players.
