If you can handle a drag including reverse then your way ahead of any artic driver here who has never driven one, way way ahead, and if all your missing is coupling up its simple kids stuff compared to a drag
Roymondo:
Wheel Nut:
If I remember you don’t have to uncouple a drawbar trailer on test. We never had to uncouple an artic in class 1, we did have to light the boiler and get steam up though [emoji23]You certainly do have to do the coupling/uncoupling exercise on test on a drawbar trailer (although modern boilers and smokeless fuels have made building up steam a simple procedure
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Thanks for that. I was imagining having to rely on the examiner with a Pin and Eye coupling or Manual hitch
Wouldn’t have thought it a problem if you explain your situation. Pretty sure a firm like stobarts would prefer to train into doing their way anyway. Good luck.
If the OP has a pulse and can walk, I suspect that they’ll pass the assessment and be offered a job
robroy:
Why would a training school give you Class1 training on a drag motor, unless you (or the co that sent you for it) specified so ffs
The majority of Class 1 work is on artics unless I’m mistaken so why train a lad on a different vehicle type to what he is most likely to go on to in his job…beggars belief.Just a thought mate, but maybe the asessor will take you out in one of their W&Ds if you explain to him, who knows?
Good luck with it all anyway bud.
I can tell you one of the reasons they use W&D is because it is far easier way to get a class one.
Going forwards not much cut in and less blind spots. Going backwards far easier to learn as well.
Not ideal but there you go.
Rick W:
robroy:
Why would a training school give you Class1 training on a drag motor, unless you (or the co that sent you for it) specified so ffs
The majority of Class 1 work is on artics unless I’m mistaken so why train a lad on a different vehicle type to what he is most likely to go on to in his job…beggars belief.Just a thought mate, but maybe the asessor will take you out in one of their W&Ds if you explain to him, who knows?
Good luck with it all anyway bud.I can tell you one of the reasons they use W&D is because it is far easier way to get a class one.
Going forwards not much cut in and less blind spots. Going backwards far easier to learn as well.
Not ideal but there you go.
I wouldn’t know mate, never driven one.
But what is the point of taking a course to drive a vehicle type, getting a licence, then having no clue how to manouvre the main type of vehicle of that class.
It’s nearly as bad as that myth about EE drivers taking a Class1 on a tractor and trailer.
robroy:
Rick W:
robroy:
Why would a training school give you Class1 training on a drag motor, unless you (or the co that sent you for it) specified so ffs
The majority of Class 1 work is on artics unless I’m mistaken so why train a lad on a different vehicle type to what he is most likely to go on to in his job…beggars belief.Just a thought mate, but maybe the asessor will take you out in one of their W&Ds if you explain to him, who knows?
Good luck with it all anyway bud.I can tell you one of the reasons they use W&D is because it is far easier way to get a class one.
Going forwards not much cut in and less blind spots. Going backwards far easier to learn as well.
Not ideal but there you go.I wouldn’t know mate, never driven one.
But what is the point of taking a course to drive a vehicle type, getting a licence, then having no clue how to manouvre the main type of vehicle of that class.
It’s nearly as bad as that myth about EE drivers taking a Class1 on a tractor and trailer.
Yeah its absolutely crazy but makes it easier for the trainer and the student. Gets them through their test
far quicker as pass rate far higher than an artic.
Of course then the problems can begin for the new driver. Some probably adapt quicker than others.
Maybe thats why we see some struggling these days!
nightline:
If you can handle a drag including reverse then your way ahead of any artic driver here who has never driven one, way way ahead, and if all your missing is coupling up its simple kids stuff compared to a drag
We are not talking A frames here. No training company in their right mind would use one of these.
The reason that i learnt in one of these was because the guy i learnt with is just like an independant guy who does it, so he doesnt own an artic i guess because more than half his work is in his rigid (cat c truck).
And i went into my class 1 straight after getting my class 2 and to be honest i didnt really think about it. I just figured im used to this truck already because ive just done cat c.
Had i thought about it beforehand i definately would have gone elsewhere that uses artics.
Like i said ive managed to book a 4 hour refresher on the monday in an artic. So hopefully ill pick up the differences quickly.
So if anyone heres driving around hull monday afternoon, beware! 
nightline:
If you can handle a drag including reverse then your way ahead of any artic driver here who has never driven one, way way ahead, and if all your missing is coupling up its simple kids stuff compared to a drag
Like I said, never driven one, but I’d bet you a weeks wages that I still could reverse one like the one in the pic the o/p put up that he took his test on…what do you teckon is so difficult?
Now a draw bar A frame type…not so confident.
pware96:
The reason that i learnt in one of these was because the guy i learnt with is just like an independant guy who does it, so he doesnt own an artic i guess because more than half his work is in his rigid (cat c truck).
And i went into my class 1 straight after getting my class 2 and to be honest i didnt really think about it. I just figured im used to this truck already because ive just done cat c.
Had i thought about it beforehand i definately would have gone elsewhere that uses artics.Like i said ive managed to book a 4 hour refresher on the monday in an artic. So hopefully ill pick up the differences quickly.
So if anyone heres driving around hull monday afternoon, beware!
Wasn’t parrot by any chance!!
robroy:
nightline:
If you can handle a drag including reverse then your way ahead of any artic driver here who has never driven one, way way ahead, and if all your missing is coupling up its simple kids stuff compared to a dragLike I said, never driven one, but I’d bet you a weeks wages that I still could reverse one like the one in the pic the o/p put up that he took his test on…what do you teckon is so difficult?
Now a draw bar A frame type…not so confident.
A lot easier to ■■■■ up by overlocking, W&D are longer than artics so keep that in mind as well. Probably best that you have the experience of the vehicle before making comments about them though 
It wouldn’t be an A Frame and anyone who passed a car test after 1997 wouldn’t have driven a car and caravan B+E. You would need to be 38 at least.
I was unusual in that I drove a caravan transporter first, towing a van, then class 3, followed by a class3 with a 27’ drawbar trailer. I then got my class 1
Vid:
. Probably best that you have the experience of the vehicle before making comments about them though
Cheers for that mate…I’ll bear it in mind. 
Still stand by what I said though.
robroy:
It’s nearly as bad as that myth about EE drivers taking a Class1 on a tractor and trailer.
^^^^
Does seem strange, an artic and W&D are chalk and cheese.
Most anti EE on here though will be happy to believe that myth…
Vid:
robroy:
nightline:
If you can handle a drag including reverse then your way ahead of any artic driver here who has never driven one, way way ahead, and if all your missing is coupling up its simple kids stuff compared to a dragLike I said, never driven one, but I’d bet you a weeks wages that I still could reverse one like the one in the pic the o/p put up that he took his test on…what do you teckon is so difficult?
Now a draw bar A frame type…not so confident.
A lot easier to [zb] up by overlocking, W&D are longer than artics so keep that in mind as well. Probably best that you have the experience of the vehicle before making comments about them though
I have experience and you seem to be talking absolute tosh.
rob you would have no problem backing one up. A doddle compared to an artic.
A frame different story.
Rick W:
Vid:
robroy:
nightline:
If you can handle a drag including reverse then your way ahead of any artic driver here who has never driven one, way way ahead, and if all your missing is coupling up its simple kids stuff compared to a dragLike I said, never driven one, but I’d bet you a weeks wages that I still could reverse one like the one in the pic the o/p put up that he took his test on…what do you teckon is so difficult?
Now a draw bar A frame type…not so confident.
A lot easier to [zb] up by overlocking, W&D are longer than artics so keep that in mind as well. Probably best that you have the experience of the vehicle before making comments about them though
I have experience and you seem to be talking absolute tosh.
rob you would have no problem backing one up. A doddle compared to an artic.
A frame different story.
Just what I thought mate.
Cheers for that.
You two should get a room, Rick W is clearly another instance of a regular troll given recent posts, you want to follow his lead then fine, that’s up to you. Have a pleasant night!
I found W&D easier to drive. Passed my test in one. They follow better and I thought that though longer they were easier to reverse as they move more quickly.
Day after I passed my test I did an agency shift for a firm in Nottingham via Drivers Direct (pass certificate was sufficient) called Park Logistics (their TM was possibly the most unpleasant chap I’ve ever met) and almost had the trailer wheels on a roundabout, then into traffic light. I found that they were different, and had no idea how to drop/couple trailers using air suspension/what a dog clip is/close-coupling.
At Sports Direct it was the blokes who had passed in artics that were losing trailers as they didn’t know how to check that they were coupled correctly.
Vid:
You two should get a room, Rick W is clearly another instance of a regular troll given recent posts, you want to follow his lead then fine, that’s up to you. Have a pleasant night!
Wow two lots of advice in one night.
Cheers mate, if I need anymore, I’ll get back to you.
Have a good night yourself.