Wearing a seatbelt in a truck is the drivers responsibility and can incur a fixed penalty.
If a driver doesn’t wear his seatbelt, it isn’t the operator who is guilty of an offence.
However, while there is no obligation on operators under the Road Traffic Act, they do have responsibilities under health and safety legislation. Firms failing to ensure a seatbelt was properly maintained, for example, could be prosecuted under the Health and Safety at Work Act and face unlimited fines if found guilty.
Individual directors shown to be guilty of neglect, meanwhile, could face prison. And a company could face corporate manslaughter charges, for example, if a driver not wearing a seatbelt because it was faulty, despite management being aware of it, was thrown through a windscreen and killed.
Tell your TM this,… then ask him if he still wants you to do the 5 drops first?
Evil8Beezle:
What I think a lot of “old hands” may forget is that Newbies don’t have the experience, confidence and securing that they do. Old hands are also less likely to be at dodgy firms where Newbies get a chance of a start, so may not have to put up with so much of the dodgy behaviour of bosses. …
It aint just newbies, it’s a lot of the experienced also , we have them at my firm, I aint talking about illegal acts, but moaning when not suited about something instead of questioning it.
They are in the office and the boss will say, 6 drops London area Monday, get away about 2 am ish, they stand there and say ‘‘Yeh ok’’ walk outside and say to everybody who is unfortunate enough to be there to listen to them ■■■■ moan… ‘‘Look what that ■■■■ has given me, ■■■■ London area, and he can ■■■■ off if he thinks I’m going at 2’’ …but hey…they do. 
Now I know the Supertrucker heroes, and also the yes men will disagree, but whatever anybody says 2am start is ■■■■ unreasonable, it should either be a Sunday runner, or compensated for unsocial hours, and for going to bed on your Sunday off at teatime. (Some have been known to sleep in the yard Sun pm 
)
But no, they sacrifice most of Sunday off, their overtime and night out for Sunday running, and moan about it.
Ok, Nothing to do with dodgy seatbelts, just explaining my point about me getting ■■■■■■ off with drivers who just moan but never answer back.
robroy:
Evil8Beezle:
What I think a lot of “old hands” may forget is that Newbies don’t have the experience, confidence and securing that they do. Old hands are also less likely to be at dodgy firms where Newbies get a chance of a start, so may not have to put up with so much of the dodgy behaviour of bosses. …
It aint just newbies, it’s a lot of the experienced also , we have them at my firm, I aint talking about illegal acts, but moaning when not suited about something instead of questioning it.
They are in the office and the boss will say, 6 drops London area Monday, get away about 2 am ish, they stand there and say ‘‘Yeh ok’’ walk outside and say to everybody who is unfortunate enough to be there to listen to them [zb] moan… ‘‘Look what that [zb] has given me, [zb] London area, and he can [zb] off if he thinks I’m going at 2’’ …but hey…they do.
Now I know the Supertrucker heroes, and also the yes men will disagree, but whatever anybody says 2am start is [zb] unreasonable, it should either be a Sunday runner, or compensated for unsocial hours, and for going to bed on your Sunday off at teatime. (Some have been known to sleep in the yard Sun pm )
But no, they sacrifice most of Sunday off, their overtime and night out for Sunday running, and moan about it.
Ok, Nothing to do with dodgy seatbelts, just explaining my point about me getting ■■■■■■ off with drivers who just moan but never answer back.
Agree there you get walked all over if you don’t fight your corner.
You don’t need to argue with the office just put your point across nicely
Powerlifter:
After my last drop today my seat belt became faulty and didn’t stay fastened. I reported it to the depot and was told that I’ve got 5 drops tomorrow and afterwards run it into the MAN truck centre for them to have a look at it.
My head says I should tell them to go [zb] themselves as I am not keen on driving what essentially is without a seatbelt.
Only been with them 10 months and don’t want to be compromised in this way.
What would you do in this situation?
So what did you do then bud? Let us know.
If you just went ahead with it, admit it… but learn from it.
As Evil pointed out, you haven’t been in the job long, and it’s easy for an old trucker (I said TR ucker btw 
) like me to tell you what you should and shouldn’t say or do, but I realise it can be difficult to shout up when you are the new boy at the job.
Point is mate if you don’t it’s the thin end of the wedge, what will they request next time, and just assume you will do it? go over your hours ? or use a trailer with dodgy brakes? They obviously have little regard for the law, and NO regard for your safety. 
If you show that you are responsible, imply that you will not be ■■■■ ed about, but at the same time do it politely in a professional non effin & jeffin manner, they will treat you with respect, and treat you better, and not look on you as a ‘Yes man’ trust me on that …If they don’t and take the huff with you, then look for another job.
Good advice from an old hand, take it or leave it, but it all makes for an easier life in the job mate, believe me.
Evil8Beezle:
robroy:
That’s what I meant yeh, but you are much more subtle and tactful than me.
I just get ■■■■■■ with a lot of drivers today that ■■■■■ foot about rather than just speak up…you are allowed to answer back you know we aint at school, you don’t get 100 lines in this job !
They get instructions that they don’t like, say absolutely ■■■■■■■■ to whoever told them, and come out moaning to the likes of me, to their mates, or on a forum or any [zb] where except where they should be moaning.
That was my point, I will endeavour from now on to be more tolerant, and tactful like…ma boy.
I’ll let you off, as senility may well be becoming a mitigating factor these days! 
As well as a bit/lot of bitterness for you making me a bar steward! 
What I think a lot of “old hands” may forget is that Newbies don’t have the experience, confidence and securing that they do. Old hands are also less likely to be at dodgy firms where Newbies get a chance of a start, so may not have to put up with so much of the dodgy behaviour of bosses. In my so far short career, I’ve been put in a couple of spots where I’ve been pressured to take out a trailers I’m not happy with, and when I’ve pushed back, that trailer has just been moved on to another limper!
Limpers (especially Newbies) also have the problem that they can be hired and fired at will, so it’s a fine line to tread as they don’t have the security of FTW’s. This is why I’ve just always gone down the “put it in writing” route and have my own little defect book for it. It seems to work for me as I’ve never been binned off from a gig and also never taken out a vehicle that I’m not happy with…
Up subtle and tactful. I’m disappointed with you Beezle, tut tut tut. I had you down as someone that would ram this blokes seat belt up his arse, smash his truck up and burn the office down, but now I don’t think I want to associate with you any more.
And as for you Rob, I’m well gob smacked with your statement. I hope you’re not claiming ta be a Glasgae boy.
peterm:
And as for you Rob, I’m well gob smacked with your statement. .
Which one Peter? …I say a lot of offensive things
From nowhere near Glasgow, south of the border I’m glad to say.
Oh yes, you know who I mean and so does that offspring of yours. I’m even more disappointed now that I know you’re not even 'ard enough to come from Glasgow.
You know it’s wrong and against the law, That’s why you are asking on here ?
me " NO " the truck don’t move until the defect ( seatbelt ) is fixed
the law is their to protect you against employers or planners at your work place called HSE
it might be tyres next, lights or an air leak who knows
there’s plenty of work out there on the agency any way why worry
peterm:
Up subtle and tactful. I’m disappointed with you Beezle, tut tut tut. I had you down as someone that would ram this blokes seat belt up his arse, smash his truck up and burn the office down, but now I don’t think I want to associate with you any more.
And as for you Rob, I’m well gob smacked with your statement. I hope you’re not claiming ta be a Glasgae boy.
Don’t be ridiculous Peter, why when I’ve made a decision to kill someone would I want to draw attention to myself? That way when he and his family die in a burglary gone wrong some 3 months later, the police will be knocking on my door…
If you’re going to be a successful psychopath, you can’t be a hot-headed psychopath!
Pa taught me that!