Drivers under 30

Lonewolf Yorks:

adam277:
Also it really bugs me everyone calls me drive lol. I think it dehumanizes the drivers. When I was a forklift driver If I had to address a driver regularly I would ask his name or call him mate or something if I had to address him as a one off.

Funnily enough I’ve always hated being called ‘drive’. You’d think after 30 odd years I’d have got used to it but no :imp: :imp:

Used to annoy me, but now I just reply with alright “manage” or “guard” or whatever they happen to be doing at the time, if I don’t know their job title. Some of them look sideways at me, some get it, some ask me what I mean, so I explain.

Mostly though, I find people who use an abbreviation of my job title to define me, to be unalloyed dullards, and not worthy of a second thought.

Drempels:

yt03:
I’m 31 and I’d get out the job tomorrow if I could, but I have nothing to fall back on and I’d end up taking a huge pay cut, I actually wanted to do it from been a small lad but back then you don’t imagine you will be treated as the lowest of the low.

The job itself I love, meet some really nice people and see some amazing places… but they is far more negatives than positives. Would I be happy if my son said “daddy I want to be a lorry driver” NO! If he really wanted that’ I would do my best to make him get a trade learnt before hand to fall back on.

I hear the “treated like xyz” claim a lot, but I don’t recognise it day-to-day. Who are these people that treat us so badly? What do they do to us?

Could we have some examples?

I have a simple policy when meeting people, I’m polite and treat them how I would like to be treated. If they turn out to be unworthy of civility and politeness, I treat them accordingly.

Works for me, anyway.

Firm believer attitude breads attitude myself, maybe you are in the right work if you don’t feel we are treated like ■■■■??

yt03:

Drempels:

yt03:
I’m 31 and I’d get out the job tomorrow if I could, but I have nothing to fall back on and I’d end up taking a huge pay cut, I actually wanted to do it from been a small lad but back then you don’t imagine you will be treated as the lowest of the low.

The job itself I love, meet some really nice people and see some amazing places… but they is far more negatives than positives. Would I be happy if my son said “daddy I want to be a lorry driver” NO! If he really wanted that’ I would do my best to make him get a trade learnt before hand to fall back on.

I hear the “treated like xyz” claim a lot, but I don’t recognise it day-to-day. Who are these people that treat us so badly? What do they do to us?

Could we have some examples?

I have a simple policy when meeting people, I’m polite and treat them how I would like to be treated. If they turn out to be unworthy of civility and politeness, I treat them accordingly.

Works for me, anyway.

Firm believer attitude breads attitude myself, maybe you are in the right work if you don’t feel we are treated like [zb]■■

Yeah, being in the right work is what most people seem to long for. Lucky me! :slight_smile:

Drempels:

yt03:

Drempels:

yt03:
I’m 31 and I’d get out the job tomorrow if I could, but I have nothing to fall back on and I’d end up taking a huge pay cut, I actually wanted to do it from been a small lad but back then you don’t imagine you will be treated as the lowest of the low.

The job itself I love, meet some really nice people and see some amazing places… but they is far more negatives than positives. Would I be happy if my son said “daddy I want to be a lorry driver” NO! If he really wanted that’ I would do my best to make him get a trade learnt before hand to fall back on.

I hear the “treated like xyz” claim a lot, but I don’t recognise it day-to-day. Who are these people that treat us so badly? What do they do to us?

Could we have some examples?

I have a simple policy when meeting people, I’m polite and treat them how I would like to be treated. If they turn out to be unworthy of civility and politeness, I treat them accordingly.

Works for me, anyway.

Firm believer attitude breads attitude myself, maybe you are in the right work if you don’t feel we are treated like [zb]■■

Yeah, being in the right work is what most people seem to long for. Lucky me! :slight_smile:

You should see the toilets we are expected to use at the sites we visit regular, absolute insult to lads who have hygiene standards… but then one stopped cleaning there’s after a driver smeared crap on a wall, so we will never win

I’m 26. Class 1 driver for 5 years. Drivers have too much time thinking of how exciting there life could be. I’ve thought about it many times but the grass isn’t greener somewhere else. I’ll stay in my nice warm cab, watching everyone race round like idiots. [emoji38]

Young drivers do get walked all over but if you don’t let it happen you’ll have such a easier life.

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muckles:

Stanley Mitchell:

malcolmgbell:
Youth of today have no staying power,snow flake genaration, the job is what you make it

TBH, the 25-35 year olds Ive had either working for me, or potentially looking for a job, have been very un-inspiring in their outlook…no charisma, no ambition and no real idea about what they actually want to do in life :open_mouth:

Everybody seems to want 9-5 and do as little as possible, which just ain`t going to happen in this industry, unless you want to be paid a pittance and/or worked to death on 3663 type work :blush:

I’ve worked with loads of people in that age group over the last few years, most of them have had plenty of drive, ambition, charisma, and they’ll work the hours needed to get the job done, but they’re not truck drivers, so maybe the problem is with the haulage industry being so unattractive it only gets those who can’t find anything else and the one or 2 who are genuinely interested in driving trucks.

Why would any young person with drive and ambition want to drive trucks in the present Haulage Industry, sorry :blush: I mean Logistics sector, most of us older drivers were attracted by the prospect of travel to far flung places and being left alone to do the job, not delivering to yet another soulless RDC, trying to choose between the delights of parking in some pot-holed service station smelling of ■■■■, or some layby or industrial area without even the basic facilities or trying to get back home in 15 hours on our overcrowded road network and having every part of your day micro-managed by a pointy shoed manager.

Dont forget Muckles, you are working in a ■■■■ industry, so you will find the cream wanting to get involved, but Ive got plenty of mates in other industries who say exactly the same as me, whether its gas engineers, electricians, plumbers, gardeners, chefs…no drive, no ambition…easy life on top dollar is their mantra :unamused:

If the toilets are that bad, grass them up to the HSE or the council or whoever it is that enforces kazi standards. Telling other drivers about it isn’t going to improve anything.

We all pay lots of tax and moan when it’s spent on silly ■■■■. Get your money’s worth, make these ■■■■■ work for a living.

Alternatively, put pics of them on soshul meeja, yoi know what firms are like about image these days.

Stanley Mitchell:

muckles:

Stanley Mitchell:

malcolmgbell:
Youth of today have no staying power,snow flake genaration, the job is what you make it

TBH, the 25-35 year olds Ive had either working for me, or potentially looking for a job, have been very un-inspiring in their outlook…no charisma, no ambition and no real idea about what they actually want to do in life :open_mouth:

Everybody seems to want 9-5 and do as little as possible, which just ain`t going to happen in this industry, unless you want to be paid a pittance and/or worked to death on 3663 type work :blush:

I’ve worked with loads of people in that age group over the last few years, most of them have had plenty of drive, ambition, charisma, and they’ll work the hours needed to get the job done, but they’re not truck drivers, so maybe the problem is with the haulage industry being so unattractive it only gets those who can’t find anything else and the one or 2 who are genuinely interested in driving trucks.

Why would any young person with drive and ambition want to drive trucks in the present Haulage Industry, sorry :blush: I mean Logistics sector, most of us older drivers were attracted by the prospect of travel to far flung places and being left alone to do the job, not delivering to yet another soulless RDC, trying to choose between the delights of parking in some pot-holed service station smelling of ■■■■, or some layby or industrial area without even the basic facilities or trying to get back home in 15 hours on our overcrowded road network and having every part of your day micro-managed by a pointy shoed manager.

Dont forget Muckles, you are working in a ■■■■ industry, so you will find the cream wanting to get involved, but Ive got plenty of mates in other industries who say exactly the same as me, whether its gas engineers, electricians, plumbers, gardeners, chefs…no drive, no ambition…easy life on top dollar is their mantra :unamused:

I remember similar things being said about me when I first started work, it was a Cash and Carry Warehouse, so nothing special, I hated the job, which is probably why I didn’t seem keen on the work, but having left school in the middle of a recession it was all I could get.

As for what I do yes perhaps it is considered a more desirable a job, but that was my point, haulage isn’t desirable, when people had the chance to go to far flung places, it was attractive to a certain type of person, those with a bit of adventure in their soul and a desire not to have management watching their every move, for that they would put up with the long hours and other hardships. But now the job has changed and it doesn’t interest those people who wanted adventure and freedom, but the hours and conditions haven’t changed to attract people looking for a normal 9-5 job.

Youth of today have no staying power,snow flake genaration, the job is what you make it
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TBH, the 25-35 year olds Ive had either working for me, or potentially looking for a job, have been very un-inspiring in their outlook…no charisma, no ambition and no real idea about what they actually want to do in life :open_mouth:

Everybody seems to want 9-5 and do as little as possible, which just ain`t going to happen in this industry, unless you want to be paid a pittance and/or worked to death on 3663 type work :blush:
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I’ve worked with loads of people in that age group over the last few years, most of them have had plenty of drive, ambition, charisma, and they’ll work the hours needed to get the job done, but they’re not truck drivers, so maybe the problem is with the haulage industry being so unattractive it only gets those who can’t find anything else and the one or 2 who are genuinely interested in driving trucks.

Why would any young person with drive and ambition want to drive trucks in the present Haulage Industry, sorry :blush: I mean Logistics sector, most of us older drivers were attracted by the prospect of travel to far flung places and being left alone to do the job, not delivering to yet another soulless RDC, trying to choose between the delights of parking in some pot-holed service station smelling of ■■■■■ or some layby or industrial area without even the basic facilities or trying to get back home in 15 hours on our overcrowded road network and having every part of your day micro-managed by a pointy shoed manager.
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I remember similar things being said about me when I first started work, it was a Cash and Carry Warehouse, so nothing special, I hated the job, which is probably why I didn’t seem keen on the work, but having left school in the middle of a recession it was all I could get.

As for what I do yes perhaps it is considered a more desirable a job, but that was my point, haulage isn’t desirable, when people had the chance to go to far flung places, it was attractive to a certain type of person, those with a bit of adventure in their soul and a desire not to have management watching their every move, for that they would put up with the long hours and other hardships. But now the job has changed and it doesn’t interest those people who wanted adventure and freedom, but the hours and conditions haven’t changed to attract people looking for a normal 9-5 job.
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I never wanted a 9-5 job, tried it a few times and hated it. I’m glad to say, I enjoy my job. Next time you’re in traffic, look around you at the middle-management types in their new cars that aren’t actually theirs, desperately trying to get to the next bit of traffic, so they can rush home to sit in front of their laptop for a few hours, in a boring house in a boring dormitory town with equally boring neighbours who do exactly the same thing. The shock when Mr Jones buys his Mrs a new SUV can only cause Mr Smith to respond by either becoming enraged or responding in kind, thus the cycle of envy, greed, and misery continues.

When I had my own business, I had lots of money and a bird who was a model in her spare time. When the business went, inevitably, so did she. A mutual friend sent me a link to her faceache account a few months ago, after I bumped into him after about 20 years. There she was, still exceptionally good looking, but ■■■■ me, I wouldn’t want to be married to her. Looking through her posts, she has her (wealthy but drippy) husband working in his family’s business day and night, to keep her in Range Rovers and whatever mental doomed-to-fail “business” idea she’s come up with this month. A more vacuous, self-centered huppelkut, you would be hard pushed to meet. As a commentator in The Telegraph succinctly put it: “once 20s are gone and the supply of alpha ■■■■ dries up, the 30s becomes a race to snare a beta wallet, before the 40s leave them on the shelf”.

These are the people who think that 9-5 and a holiday in Floriduh is life. Who think that putting a picture of themselves in Frankie & Benny outlets on social media is life, that a loft conversion will impress their neighbours, that mis-using words like “issues” and “basically” makes them sound clever, that saying “can I get” instead of “may I have” makes them sound travelled, that watch football and reality TV because everybody else does, etc etc etc. These are the pointy-shoed, and I pity them.

They can ■■■■■■■ keep it.

My post above is a bit confusing, as I got a message about not being able to embed 4 posts or something, so I edited it but very badly :blush:

Drempels:

Muckles:
my point, haulage isn’t desirable, when people had the chance to go to far flung places, it was attractive to a certain type of person, those with a bit of adventure in their soul and a desire not to have management watching their every move, for that they would put up with the long hours and other hardships. But now the job has changed and it doesn’t interest those people who wanted adventure and freedom, but the hours and conditions haven’t changed to attract people looking for a normal 9-5 job.

I never wanted a 9-5 job, tried it a few times and hated it. I’m glad to say, I enjoy my job. Next time you’re in traffic, look around you at the middle-management types in their new cars that aren’t actually theirs, a boring house in a boring dormitory town with equally boring neighbours who do exactly the same thing. The shock when Mr Jones buys his Mrs a new SUV can only cause Mr Smith to respond by either becoming enraged or responding in kind, thus the cycle of envy, greed, and misery continues.

These are the people who think that 9-5 and a holiday in Floriduh is life. Who think that putting a picture of themselves in Frankie & Benny outlets on social media is life, that a loft conversion will impress their neighbours, and I pity them.

They can [zb] keep it.

You and me both aren’t interested in the 9-5 job or the “keep up with the Jones” material possessions, I’ve been there and done that as well, we probably both took up truck driving as it seems to fulfil our desires for travel and to get away from the closely monitored life of the factory or office, however in society in general we’re probably the exception more than the rule.

With a few exceptions, truck driving these days, especially if you’re working for the bit the like to call itself “The Logistics Sector”, isn’t the freedom of the open road, ticking off another place or even another country and being left to get on with the job, so why would it attract those people looking for more than a mundane 9-5 and get home, they’ll find other work to suit their needs or in the case of some find the few niche transport jobs that has some freedom, whether because they’re left alone or because they get to go further.

However in turning the job into yet another 9-5 occupation with carefully laid out jobs and minute to minute monitoring, the industry has forgotten to actually make it a 9-5 job to match the warehouse and factory jobs it’s become so similar to.

Drempels:
My post above is a bit confusing, as I got a message about not being able to embed 4 posts or something, so I edited it but very badly :blush:

Yep gets to be a problem, but normally knocking the first post or 2 off works and doesn’t lose the meaning of the post. :slight_smile: