Ooops, didnt see that one, cheers now!!
biggusdickusgb:
bestbooties:
biggusdickusgb:
i’m sorry you think i’m being harsh.
he can be as remorseful as he likes, it doesn’t alter the fact that in two years time he’ll be in the pub laughing and joking with his mates.If you had done this,would you be lauging about it in years to come?I think not!
Let’s hope we never have to find out eh?we won’t find out, hopefully, and i didn’t say he’d be laughing about the crash, just illustrating he’ll be having a life in two years time
and the fact is he wasn’t doing his job properly and three people died.I think the driver that caused this accident was driving in a proffesional manner,he certainly didn’t look the sort to have his feet up on the dash,he was unfortunate enough to suffer what ALL of us do when driving at night,a split seconds loss of concentration
totally ignoring brake lights and ploughing into standing traffic at 56mph on a straight bit of road isn’t a split second loss of concentration, neither is it driving in a professional manner.
it was only 18.45 and it was dark, all the more reason to notice brake lights on a straight bit of road wouldn’t you think
We’ll have to agree to differ, in my opinion it only takes a second, although i do my very best to be a proffesional driver i am human and not a machine, unfortunately i do make mistakes.
As for the length of the sentence, what prison term would compensate for three lives lost?
ashbyspannerman:
i do my very best to be a proffesional driver i am human and not a machine, unfortunately i do make mistakes.
and the same goes for most of us
As for the length of the sentence, what prison term would compensate for three lives lost?
that i can’t answer, i just think he’s got off lightly.
it wasn’t an accident, it was negligence.
i do know that if that was my boy killed, the two years he’s going to spend inside would be the least of his problems.
Copied this from the other thread that is following aspects of this incident.
ROG:
If I was that trucker and did not know WHY I had done that, then I would never drive again![]()
How could I be sure that history would not repeat
- in not knowing what went wrong the first time how could I prevent the same from happening again
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Darby Flyer:
I totally agree with that Rog, as I would probably give up driving after such an incident and especially for the same reasons as this guy.… he obviously couldnt account for the last few moments which suggested one of two things - he either fell asleep, unlikely as that sliproad is curved or he simply had a lapse in concentration.
To all intents and purposes, he was driving as he always probably has done and this time something has gone very bady wrong.
These “Accidents” Happen, and everybody involved will Suffer in one way or another. I Feel For All the Families Involved. My own personal view of the Driver sentence is wether he does 4 yr or 10yr inside, He will “Always” have to carry that Guilt For the rest of his Life. Any normal person would never be able to get over this.
I just think what a sad time for all involved,
makes me cringe at what stupid mastakes i have made in the past, and thought how lucky i have been not to go through that…
I toss and turn some nights, thinking how dangerous our roads are, and glad i don’t know what live is going to throw at me next, best not to know ■■?
It was an accident, the driver survived, siciety had to blame somone…
weemo:
It was an accident, the driver survived, siciety had to blame somone…
society blamed the one who caused it.
Yes he was the cause but not intentually,
what ever happened to freak accident, everyone wants to sue, so someone has to take the blame…
weemo:
Yes he was the cause but not intentually,what ever happened to freak accident,
Not many of those around -
… from the book ‘Mind Driving’ by Stephen Haley
weemo:
everyone wants to sue, so someone has to take the blame…
… from the book ‘Mind Driving’ by Stephen Haley
i dont think that driver will be wanting to drive once he gets out tbh.
i know i wouldnt
you just have to remember he didnt go out to kill somebody on purpose, yet folk who have done so have had the same or lesser sentences, the british justice system is screwed up. 4 years behind bars plus what has happened on his shoulders is enough remeber it was an accident.
i know some may disagree and fair doos.
not only the jail term,but an 11 year driving ban,so the driver wont be going back to a driving career,no job,so i doubt he"ll be in the pub with his mates.
the man has a mental life sentence to carry with him.an accident is just that,just this time the outcome was devastating for innocent parties.
however good a driver we all claim to be,its a harsh reminder that was on tv last night.
To everyone who say’s driving is easy, this shows it is’nt, takes 100% concentration 100% of the time. It is so easy to make a mistake with fatal results.
Condolences to all involved.
weemo:
Yes he was the cause but not intentually,
i’m not for one minute thinking he deliberately drove into them
what ever happened to freak accident, everyone wants to sue, so someone has to take the blame…
it wasn’t an accident, it was negligence
he caused it, he’s to blame.
whooshwoosh:
not only the jail term,but an 11 year driving ban,so the driver wont be going back to a driving career,no job,so i doubt he"ll be in the pub with his mates.
11 years? it said 6 and retake the test last night.
mikewhi:
To everyone who say’s driving is easy, this shows it is’nt, takes 100% concentration 100% of the time. It is so easy to make a mistake with fatal results.Condolences to all involved.
ECHO THAT
and add - To everyone who say’s driving is easy - you probably are not concentrating enough to stay out of trouble…
surely if your stationary on a main motorway , slip road youd have your hazards on wouldnt you
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the lorry driver didnt see the brake lights ahead of him, how do we know the folks in that que had there feet on the brake pedal , could of been sat there with there handbrake on , so if you were comming down the motorway , pitch black , all youd pick up is back lights.
hazards may of just saved there lifes
ady1:
surely if your stationary on a main motorway , slip road youd have your hazards on wouldnt you![]()
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the lorry driver didnt see the brake lights ahead of him, how do we know the folks in that que had there feet on the brake pedal , could of been sat there with there handbrake on , so if you were comming down the motorway , pitch black , all youd pick up is back lights.
hazards may of just saved there lifes
Most will sit there with their foot on the footbrake for eons - just to annoy the driver stopped behind them or because they forgot where the handbrake is
Well whats needed now is a bit of newtons third law (for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction)
In other words something very sad happened that day and as we are all talking about it now after watching the TV program then the OBVIOUS REACTION would be to assess and analyse our own driving habits and not just assume that “oh it’ll never happen to me” or “theres nothing wrong with my driving mate i’ve been doing it this way for 20 yrs without incident”
Im telling you now after watching that program it opened my eyes and shamed me i’ll not be opening a bag of crisps whilst driving again or taking my fleece off coz im too warm or picking up that piece of paperwork that slid off the dash you know the sort of things we probably all do with barely a second thought.
Basically what im saying is from now on im going to try and learn from this tragedy and strive to be a better and even more professional driver if that means pulling into a layby or a services just to do something so seemingly trivial then so be it at least then i know i’ll be trying to be the safest and most professional that i possibly can be.
And so then if the outcome of this tragedy is that a similar incident is avoided in the future by me or any of you then that can only be good eh?
Condolences to ALL involved…
good point, and very well put reef.
after watching that this morning, it really made me think the same way, taking a jacket off, grabbing a sarnie, drink from the fridge, ■■■■, etc.
i’m guessing alot of us do it, but i will try my hardest not too anymore.
sometimes, the trouble with this job, is we can become complacent. driving all over the road network daily, at approx 56mph, for long periods on a motorway, and how easily, it can all go so wrong.
the thing is, trying too remember, not too be complacent, every single day.
the day we assume " it won’t happen to us, coz we do this, day in day out" is the day we prove, how little we really know.
Let’s hope this very sad episode,which has been a wake up call,(no pun intended), gives us all something to think about and in some small way helps us become better drivers.
So what!
People are jailed everyday from all different walks of life!
What makes drivers so F ing special?